Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig

phill ellison · 9th October 2008, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

Hi Folk's,
I'm back in Forster again for a week taking a break from work,NOT, Arboriculture..LOL..check out this specimem I found high in this palm,no doubt a product of air mail..LOL.It would make a great Bonsia plant.Enjoy.

LOL it looked like a alien attacking the palm

willem · 9th October 2008, 03:53 AM

Spectacular picture. One tree sucking dry another tree like vampire

newguy18 · 9th October 2008, 04:14 PM

need to save that smilie.

Eric Frei · 8th April 2010, 08:00 PM

So what do you make of these pictures?

Bernard Keays · 8th April 2010, 11:24 PM

Ekka,

It looks like Ficus obliqua to me. Ficus rubiginosa has slightly thicker leaves, brown or hairy underneath and the fruit when ripe is more orange to red in colour.

sueann · 9th April 2010, 12:55 AM

Jayd what is it? that thing growing at the top of the palm. And how did it get there, do you mean birds put it there?

I love Forster! hope you're having a good time.

Eric Frei · 9th April 2010, 08:36 AM

Bernard, aren't the leaves and fruit too big? The leaves on obliqua are only like 3" long. I pinched this pic from wiki.

Some other sites are ....

http://www.anbg.gov.au/photo/apii/genus/Ficus

PlantNET - FloraOnline

Jeff Darby · 9th April 2010, 03:59 PM

maybe...APII database extract: photo_class = 'dig' and photo_no = '5327' have a look at this ?

or this...http://www.anbg.gov.au/photo/apii/id/a/5304

Bernard Keays · 10th April 2010, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Bernard, aren't the leaves and fruit too big? The leaves on obliqua are only like 3" long.

The leaves can vary alot depending on the trees genetic makeup, its health, age, competition from neighbouring trees, shade, soil, rainfall and site conditions. Harden, Williams & McDonald 1984 state that the leaves are usually 3 to 6 cm (1.2 inch to 2.4 inch) and fruit to 8mm diameter.

Eric Frei · 10th April 2010, 11:19 AM

Yeah but these leaves are large, just like macrophylla

Bernard Keays · 10th April 2010, 03:16 PM

Ekka,

Ficus macrophylla leaves are brown or a bit rusty in colour underneath and the fruits are purple in colour when ripe. I still feel that it looks like Ficus obliqua... However I wouldn't discount Ficus platypoda (rock fig) either. Ficus platypoda has characteristics of both Ficus obliqua (green leaves) and F. rubiginosa (thicker, larger leaves & fruit). I didn't mean to get into a debate but I understand that some authorities recognise Ficus platypoda as a green form of Ficus rubiginosa. So you could still be correct.

Jeff Darby · 10th April 2010, 03:21 PM

more pictures..

The leaves did not vary from observations on the ground.

and our Ficus in the Pheonix still thriving..17 months on.

Jeff Darby · 10th April 2010, 06:31 PM

Here's some pictures of Bernards I.D of Ficus platypoda

Davo The Terrible · 10th April 2010, 07:40 PM

In response to Ekka's pics; I have read somewhere that there is a form of F. macrophylla that lacks the fine hairs and rusty colour under the leaves. I have tried to find info about this again on the net, but I can't seem to find much except this: http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/herbari...rophylla_w.pdf - Check out the first and second pages for some interesting pics, the leaves look very similar to Ekka's pics.
In saying this though, it also seems that the plant in Ekka's pics has fruit that is much more like F. obliqua in shape and colour than F. macrophylla. This is a bit of a tricky one.

Davo The Terrible · 10th April 2010, 07:47 PM

Hey Ekka, one more thing - did the tree have the huge buttress roots normally seen on F. macrophylla?

Jeff Darby · 10th April 2010, 07:55 PM

Notice the dieing of the fronds on the Phoenix, it seems to be dying up one side of the frond first... a symptom of F. wilt ??

Eric Frei · 10th April 2010, 07:59 PM

OK, I went to the botanic gardens and got a match.

The tree has the same form, same trunk colour, same buttress root system, is in fruit right now (same) ... a direct match.

Garry Brockley · 10th April 2010, 08:01 PM

I wanted to say it was a F. rubiginosa but there are no nipples on the fruit and the leaves seem to be a cross between several species? stumped!

Eric Frei · 18th December 2010, 11:07 PM

I'm sitting in the Hogs Breath Cafe at Forster and looking out across the water directly opposite, it's almost sunset.

I see 3 fig trees but I see what looks like two Ficus hillii in the background and a strange tree in the foreground that has two distinctively different leaves. It was a setting sun and perhaps it was playing tricks on my weary tired driving bloodshot eyes.

So that you feel the story with the same inquisitive mind here's the picture showing the trees and I have outlined in particular the tree with the two types of leaves, yes I returned during broad daylight fresher than ever to see exactly what was going on and take the pictures.

So a closer inspection beneath revealed that two figs are growing on the host dead tree stump, both acting as stranglers. They weren't really strangling each other hard but certainly were not best of friends either as closer inspection of potential overlapping and grafting locations between the two ssp revealed it was war, one attempting to squeeze out the other. The macrophylla is the darker bark, my money's on that one to win the squeeze war.

Jeff Darby · 2nd January 2011, 11:44 AM

Do you agree with this I.D ?

Eric Frei · 2nd January 2011, 09:12 PM

Yeah, I think so.

9th October 2008, 03:53 AM	#32
willem Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: the netherlands Posts: 187	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Spectacular picture. One tree sucking dry another tree like vampire

9th October 2008, 04:14 PM	#33
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig need to save that smilie. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th April 2010, 08:00 PM	#34
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig So what do you make of these pictures? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th April 2010, 11:24 PM	#35
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Ekka, It looks like Ficus obliqua to me. Ficus rubiginosa has slightly thicker leaves, brown or hairy underneath and the fruit when ripe is more orange to red in colour. __________________ Bernie

9th April 2010, 12:55 AM	#36
sueann Former Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Australia Posts: 599	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Jayd what is it? that thing growing at the top of the palm. And how did it get there, do you mean birds put it there? I love Forster! hope you're having a good time.

9th April 2010, 08:36 AM	#37
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	A good ficus identification site Bernard, aren't the leaves and fruit too big? The leaves on obliqua are only like 3" long. I pinched this pic from wiki. Some other sites are .... http://www.anbg.gov.au/photo/apii/genus/Ficus PlantNET - FloraOnline Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

9th April 2010, 03:59 PM	#38
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig maybe...APII database extract: photo_class = 'dig' and photo_no = '5327' have a look at this ? or this...http://www.anbg.gov.au/photo/apii/id/a/5304 __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

10th April 2010, 11:19 AM	#40
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Yeah but these leaves are large, just like macrophylla __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

10th April 2010, 03:16 PM	#41
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Ekka, Ficus macrophylla leaves are brown or a bit rusty in colour underneath and the fruits are purple in colour when ripe. I still feel that it looks like Ficus obliqua... However I wouldn't discount Ficus platypoda (rock fig) either. Ficus platypoda has characteristics of both Ficus obliqua (green leaves) and F. rubiginosa (thicker, larger leaves & fruit). I didn't mean to get into a debate but I understand that some authorities recognise Ficus platypoda as a green form of Ficus rubiginosa. So you could still be correct. __________________ Bernie

10th April 2010, 03:21 PM	#42
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig more pictures.. The leaves did not vary from observations on the ground. and our Ficus in the Pheonix still thriving..17 months on. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011 Last edited by Jeff Darby; 11th April 2010 at 09:29 AM.

10th April 2010, 06:31 PM	#43
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Here's some pictures of Bernards I.D of Ficus platypoda Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

10th April 2010, 07:40 PM	#44
Davo The Terrible Former Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Gold Coast QLD Posts: 121	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig In response to Ekka's pics; I have read somewhere that there is a form of F. macrophylla that lacks the fine hairs and rusty colour under the leaves. I have tried to find info about this again on the net, but I can't seem to find much except this: http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/herbari...rophylla_w.pdf - Check out the first and second pages for some interesting pics, the leaves look very similar to Ekka's pics. In saying this though, it also seems that the plant in Ekka's pics has fruit that is much more like F. obliqua in shape and colour than F. macrophylla. This is a bit of a tricky one.

10th April 2010, 07:47 PM	#45
Davo The Terrible Former Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Gold Coast QLD Posts: 121	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Hey Ekka, one more thing - did the tree have the huge buttress roots normally seen on F. macrophylla?

10th April 2010, 07:55 PM	#46
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Notice the dieing of the fronds on the Phoenix, it seems to be dying up one side of the frond first... a symptom of F. wilt ?? __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

10th April 2010, 07:59 PM	#47
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig OK, I went to the botanic gardens and got a match. The tree has the same form, same trunk colour, same buttress root system, is in fruit right now (same) ... a direct match. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

10th April 2010, 08:01 PM	#48
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig I wanted to say it was a F. rubiginosa but there are no nipples on the fruit and the leaves seem to be a cross between several species? stumped! __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

18th December 2010, 11:07 PM	#49
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus obliqua / macrophylla fig I'm sitting in the Hogs Breath Cafe at Forster and looking out across the water directly opposite, it's almost sunset. I see 3 fig trees but I see what looks like two Ficus hillii in the background and a strange tree in the foreground that has two distinctively different leaves. It was a setting sun and perhaps it was playing tricks on my weary tired driving bloodshot eyes. So that you feel the story with the same inquisitive mind here's the picture showing the trees and I have outlined in particular the tree with the two types of leaves, yes I returned during broad daylight fresher than ever to see exactly what was going on and take the pictures. So a closer inspection beneath revealed that two figs are growing on the host dead tree stump, both acting as stranglers. They weren't really strangling each other hard but certainly were not best of friends either as closer inspection of potential overlapping and grafting locations between the two ssp revealed it was war, one attempting to squeeze out the other. The macrophylla is the darker bark, my money's on that one to win the squeeze war. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

2nd January 2011, 11:44 AM	#50
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Do you agree with this I.D ? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

2nd January 2011, 09:12 PM	#51
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Yeah, I think so. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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