Diploglottis australis| Native Tamarind ??

Eric Frei · 20th October 2009, 10:35 AM

Not too often I deal with these.

Just looking for confirmation.

Bernard Keays · 20th October 2009, 06:20 PM

Ekka,

It looks like a Flindersia schottiana (silver ash, bumpy ash).

Did you find any capsules?

Eric Frei · 20th October 2009, 06:37 PM

NAh, nothing on the ground, gets vacuumed by the mower man.

I thought it was Flindersia schottiana at first but not sold on it, leaves are too fury and form isn't upright. I could be wrong ....

Bernard Keays · 20th October 2009, 08:15 PM

Ekka,

I would go with your first thoughts. There was a specimen in the car park next to the Toowong library. I don't know of one handy on your side of town.

Sean Freeman · 20th October 2009, 08:44 PM

Hairy undersides to leaves and very furry new growth all fit Diploglottis, as do the discolorous leaves.

Bernard Keays · 20th October 2009, 10:56 PM

Sean,

I agree Diploglottis australis are very hairy. However the leaflets are generally more wrinkled. The rachis in mature leaves are rusty in colour.

Sean Freeman · 20th October 2009, 11:07 PM

My original thoughts were more likely to be Dysoxylum sp, but I don't really know, not enough info for me.

Bernard Keays · 21st October 2009, 10:59 PM

Sean,

Dysoxylum fraserianum (rosewood) are different. They have a brown granular bark. The leaflets are smaller and have domatia. It doesn't have a terminal leaflet either.

Or were you thinking of Dysoxylum muelleri (red bean)?

Sean Freeman · 21st October 2009, 11:14 PM

I was actually thinking abot Dysoxylum rufum, but mainly because its one I'm a bit familiar with, probaly not enough leaflets really though.

Sean Freeman · 21st October 2009, 11:29 PM

Sorry Bernie, just read your first post

perhaps you are right Flindersia schottiana, easy way to tell take a slice just through the bark and there should be a thin red/purple layer there, the bark exudate shuold have a pine like odour as well.

Bernard Keays · 25th October 2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Freeman

Flindersia schottiana, easy way to tell take a slice just through the bark and there should be a thin red/purple layer there, the bark exudate shuold have a pine like odour as well.

Thanks... Well I never knew that!

20th October 2009, 10:35 AM	#1
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20th October 2009, 06:20 PM	#2
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? Ekka, It looks like a Flindersia schottiana (silver ash, bumpy ash). Did you find any capsules? __________________ Bernie

20th October 2009, 06:37 PM	#3
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? NAh, nothing on the ground, gets vacuumed by the mower man. I thought it was Flindersia schottiana at first but not sold on it, leaves are too fury and form isn't upright. I could be wrong .... __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

20th October 2009, 08:15 PM	#4
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? Ekka, I would go with your first thoughts. There was a specimen in the car park next to the Toowong library. I don't know of one handy on your side of town. __________________ Bernie

20th October 2009, 08:44 PM	#5
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? Hairy undersides to leaves and very furry new growth all fit Diploglottis, as do the discolorous leaves.

20th October 2009, 10:56 PM	#6
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? Sean, I agree Diploglottis australis are very hairy. However the leaflets are generally more wrinkled. The rachis in mature leaves are rusty in colour. __________________ Bernie

20th October 2009, 11:07 PM	#7
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? My original thoughts were more likely to be Dysoxylum sp, but I don't really know, not enough info for me.

21st October 2009, 10:59 PM	#8
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? Sean, Dysoxylum fraserianum (rosewood) are different. They have a brown granular bark. The leaflets are smaller and have domatia. It doesn't have a terminal leaflet either. Or were you thinking of Dysoxylum muelleri (red bean)? __________________ Bernie

21st October 2009, 11:14 PM	#9
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? I was actually thinking abot Dysoxylum rufum, but mainly because its one I'm a bit familiar with, probaly not enough leaflets really though.

21st October 2009, 11:29 PM	#10
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: Diploglottis australis\| Native Tamarind ?? Sorry Bernie, just read your first post perhaps you are right Flindersia schottiana, easy way to tell take a slice just through the bark and there should be a thin red/purple layer there, the bark exudate shuold have a pine like odour as well.

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