Can someone help me with this one?

maintech · 6th April 2007, 03:47 PM

I had to take down a tree due to damage from ice and was wondering if someone could help me id it. Although I hated the fact that I had to cut it down I did not want it to go to waste if I could use the wood. I have attached pics here. Thanks in advance.

maintech · 6th April 2007, 03:49 PM

I forgot to mention I think it may be an Elm but not sure.

Sean Freeman · 6th April 2007, 06:00 PM

It certainly looks like an Elm to me, but to get any further with the id you'll need to give us much more info, flowers, seeds, new buds. The similarities between different Elms are not that great. But basically from what you've shown Ulmus (possibly americana)

Kevin · 6th April 2007, 06:12 PM

It might make good firewood but when that stuff dries it will want to twist.
I would never pay to have it milled.

TREE-SURFER · 6th April 2007, 06:31 PM

Most definitely an Elm, but rather liking Siberian, Ulmus Microphylla (Pumila), to Boa's U. Americana.
As suggested by Boa, more info would be required. Some shots of the bark perhaps.
Where are you located, globaly?

maintech · 7th April 2007, 03:52 PM

Thanks guys, now I don't feel so dumb.....here are a couple of pics of the bark and what I could get of any buds. I live in southeast US as far as location and was trying to id this as if it was suitable was going to use it for smoking bbq was not gonna try to have it milled or anything like that. Thanks again for your help.

Sean Freeman · 7th April 2007, 04:32 PM

Thanks for the pics, having seen them I'll agree with TREE-SURFER

Ulmus pumila Siberian elm.
NB Others who are living in climates where elms grow (not me) will be more reliable with their id's on this one... but the once serrate nature of the edge to the leaves is characteristic of pumila not americana or rubra which both have doubly serrated edges.

As for using it on the BBQ well check this first http://virtualweberbullet.com/woods.html#avoid have no personal experience to draw on but others also suggest elm is probably no good for smoking.

maintech · 7th April 2007, 07:02 PM

Thanks Boa, I was a little concerned if it would work or not but guess since I had to take it down I could aleast use it in the fire pit for everyone to sit around while the bbq was cooking. Thanks again.

TREE-SURFER · 8th April 2007, 12:31 AM

When a DED (dutch elm disease) is located and elected to be taken to the burn site over here, I was told not to stand too close to fire, for inhalation of the smoke. Not just because it will give me lung cancer and make my clothes smell and make me cry when it gets in my eyes, but when given off, (I can't remember exactly what) a gas when burnt, gives you head aches and nausea. I don't know if it's the same for all Ulmus or not, but, just to be on the safe side, cuddle up to a nice woman instead to keep warm.

Fairfield · 17th April 2007, 07:24 PM

yup elm, have it in my back yard

DRANO · 8th May 2007, 06:02 PM

bark is american with slippery color and siberian shape withwater buds you got a gold mine you killed it !!!lol siberian i thinklol drano

6th April 2007, 06:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,735	It certainly looks like an Elm to me, but to get any further with the id you'll need to give us much more info, flowers, seeds, new buds. The similarities between different Elms are not that great. But basically from what you've shown Ulmus (possibly americana) __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

6th April 2007, 06:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 413	Most definitely an Elm, but rather liking Siberian, Ulmus Microphylla (Pumila), to Boa's U. Americana. As suggested by Boa, more info would be required. Some shots of the bark perhaps. Where are you located, globaly? __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work Andy@Aerial-Arborist.co.uk What experts say about TOPPING

7th April 2007, 04:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,735	Thanks for the pics, having seen them I'll agree with TREE-SURFER Ulmus pumila Siberian elm. NB Others who are living in climates where elms grow (not me) will be more reliable with their id's on this one... but the once serrate nature of the edge to the leaves is characteristic of pumila not americana or rubra which both have doubly serrated edges. As for using it on the BBQ well check this first http://virtualweberbullet.com/woods.html#avoid have no personal experience to draw on but others also suggest elm is probably no good for smoking. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

8th April 2007, 12:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 413	When a DED (dutch elm disease) is located and elected to be taken to the burn site over here, I was told not to stand too close to fire, for inhalation of the smoke. Not just because it will give me lung cancer and make my clothes smell and make me cry when it gets in my eyes, but when given off, (I can't remember exactly what) a gas when burnt, gives you head aches and nausea. I don't know if it's the same for all Ulmus or not, but, just to be on the safe side, cuddle up to a nice woman instead to keep warm. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work Andy@Aerial-Arborist.co.uk What experts say about TOPPING

17th April 2007, 07:24 PM	#10 (permalink)
Fairfield Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucks county Pa USA Posts: 72	yup elm, have it in my back yard __________________ Hi yes you know me I am B.A.M.F nice to meet you

6th April 2007, 03:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
maintech I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4	I forgot to mention I think it may be an Elm but not sure.

6th April 2007, 06:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kevin Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 19	It might make good firewood but when that stuff dries it will want to twist. I would never pay to have it milled.

7th April 2007, 07:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
maintech I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4	Thanks Boa, I was a little concerned if it would work or not but guess since I had to take it down I could aleast use it in the fire pit for everyone to sit around while the bbq was cooking. Thanks again.

8th May 2007, 06:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
DRANO Sappling Join Date: May 2007 Location: VERMONT Posts: 25	bark is american with slippery color and siberian shape withwater buds you got a gold mine you killed it !!!lol siberian i thinklol drano

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