Multi-Tip Australia Stump Grinding Solutions

TrevMcRev

A quick grind there no matter what, but Ray i think that may have been a Cypress(Cupressus) rather than a Pine(Pinus), and they are chalk & cheese when it comes to grinding. I find Pine to take about 3 times as long as Cypress.

But even at that, 5 mins for a Cypress of that size is very efficient, quicker than most! If it was a true Pine, then that is freakin awesome!

Drouin Tree Service

Radiata would be a diffrent story,cypress is as easy as it gets.

Still cuts alright

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Drouin Tree Services | Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland | Landclearing Melbourne

Eric Frei

Well, that was a 85hp machine right?

And contrary to what some-one "reckoned" teeth didn't snap. Yeah, some-one I was talking too said the teeth would snap and the multi system is only good for smaller machines.

Good to see that issue cleared up.

Maybe that bloke could post something here? He can say what it's like.

I still have to fit mine, got all the bits but need the time.

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Multi-Tip Australia

G'day All
Well TrevMcRev, You are absolutely right, It is a cypress stump.
It was careless on my part, I should have realised that when I wrote it.
It will make me check my info more carefully in future, thanks.
I've attached two photo's , one of the operator Andrew and the other of a real 'pine' he was grinding when he first got the 'Multi-Tip System' (02/07)

BTW Eric, the one of the comments I here from the operators is that the teeth are the strongest of any they have used, but I guess the interested have to ask an operator for themselves (as I have a vested interest!)

Regards
Ray
MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA
STUMP GRINDER CUTTING SYSTEM
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61 403 882 833
(Now where is that secretary?)

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soutz

That system is the biz.

Can we get them in NZ?
I have an old 630a, an oldy but a goody. What sort of dollars are we looking 4 changing over remembering the NZ dollar is worth zip in this current recession.

Im also thinking of uprating the power on this machine to approx 40 hp plus so will that make a difference to the wheel i would get at this stage??

Multi-Tip Australia

G'day Soutz,
I'm not familar with the '630a'
But we can supply systems from OZ, to NZ
Have you checked our website? (see below)
I've included a spec sheet, If you can send me more detail on the machine, with a few photo's to- info@multi-tip.com.au

One of the whole machine, a couple of angles of the cutting wheel, teeth and wheel attachment flange.
If we don't have this wheel documented, we'll design a wheel for this particular machine (at no cost to you)

Look forward to hearing from you
Regards
Ray
MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA
STUMP GRINDER CUTTING SYSTEM
MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA | flash check
The ONLY 30 day money back guarantee
61 403 882 833

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Multi-Tip Australia

G'day all,
Have just added a new vid which shows photos of a variety of machines using the 'Multi-Tip' system here,
By the way Ekka, how goes the change over?
Or is it too wet?
Regards
Ray
MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA
STUMP GRINDER CUTTING SYSTEM
MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA | flash check
The ONLY 30 day money back guarantee
61 403 882 833

Eric Frei

I'm half way there now ... today I stripped the head down but the old cutter wheel wont separate from the shaft so had to drop it in to an engineering place where they got more than a 20T press and some oxy heat to get it off.

Have bought new seals and bearings, just waiting for the wheel to be fitted and bolt her back up ... so maybe tomorrow with a bit of luck it's be running. I have to also go buy some new drive belts

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Multi-Tip Australia

G'day Ekka,
Good to hear.
Hope everything is well and the change over goes OK.
Hope you are flood proof were you are!!
Regards
Ray Kehlet
MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA - STUMP GRINDER CUTTING SYSTEMS
The ONLY 30 day money back guarantee
ph. 61(0)403 882 833

Eric Frei

A detailed comparison video.

I have left out the process of stripping and fitting, this video is all about how it runs and how well Multi-tip works.

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Drouin Tree Service

Looks pretty good,The chips don't look to fly out as much.

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Drouin Tree Services | Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland | Landclearing Melbourne

Eric Frei

Well actually the chips clear the cutting area better and fly backwards further, there's more wind or something.

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kimtree

Any idea how fast your wheel is going?Multi tip is a great system,i ground out[nothing left] 4 fresh african mahogany stumps average 750mm and 2 raintree same size in about 3.5 hrs including unload reload and clean up
Theres 2 other stumpys here both dingo hydraulic drive,one of them reckoned it would have taken him all day.

Eric Frei

Cutter wheel is doing around 1800 to 2200rpm depending on load.

The teeth prior to change over (Tomahawk and Rayco super teeth) would only cut a depth of their tungsten carbide (15mm maximum) per sweep. Do note that Tomahawk teeth are far superior to Rayco Super tooth and that's why I had them on for this comparison. This new system can cut a lot more (50mm deep) and in turn more load is put on the engine. Also the wheel weighs more, it is thicker steel which means more load on engine and belts. So although it slaughters a stump some common sense prevails and that is you can load it up a lot more to stall it (as is all hand pressure operated).

I think smaller machines would benefit greatly from changing over, like say Dosko's and Rg20's etc as the "finesse" of sweeping the cut relies a lot on terrain and operator strength, this system would reduce the grabbing and allow smoother operation.

The Dingo hydraulic is a shocker, slow and gutless. When I saw that demo'd I pitied the sales rep... nuff said.

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Multi-Tip Australia

G'day all
A question for you Ekka,
It's been over a month since the you posted the video of your 'KANGA' and the change over to the MULTI-TIP CUTTING SYSTEM.
How are you finding the wear and durability characteristics of the MULTI-TIP teeth?
It would be interesting to have some feedback with regards to longer term use.
How does it perform in palms?
Have you had the opportunity to try the system on a pine?
Regards
Ray Kehlet

Eric Frei

I have ground some cypress and it was good.

Palms ... it destroys them fast, however once you get into the stringy shit below ground it seems to bog the machine down more so you have to back off on the depth and pressure, likely due to the extra cutting surface and the wet clay and palm roots are like glue.

Now, I will post a picture of the lead cutting teeth, notice that the carbide is busted off. Many gardens here have stones or rocks. And many stumps have bloody steel in them.

I have ground a pitch fork, star droppers, tent peg before changing this out. what the Multi-tip system allowed me to do was switch a further back tooth for a lead tooth as generally the lead tooth only gets the damage.

So far I have put in just 2 new teeth because I can switch them around (really fast mind you) to maximize longevity.

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Multi-Tip Australia

Urban trees and the things you find in them, you could start up a whole new thread just on that subject!
I remember once........
As an aside referring to the durability of the teeth, Maitland City Council purchased a system in 2007 for their Carlton 2400.
They hadn't ordered teeth for some time so we rang them to find out if they had got rid of their machine! They hadn't.
They've just ordered 10 more teeth, so in total since 2007 they've used 30 teeth.
Now, we're not suggesting that the machine is running constantly - but they do say it is used regularly.

Regards
Ray Kehlet

Multi-Tip Australia

G'day Ekka
We've just had a query regarding the 'kanga' grinder. What kind of bearings did you use in the change over? Where did you get them and what was the cost?

Just as a by the by, we have had a wheel running on a small stump grinder (16hp) at a major rental company for about 3 months so far. They report that the feedback is very positive, not only from the customers hiring this machine but also from the staff who perform the maintenance on the machine when it returns.

Eric Frei

I bought bearings from CBC cost $286

#22210CD1C3LH

That's what is on the invoice.

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garyhyland60

THUMBS UP TO MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA.
I OWN & RUN A STUMP GRINDING BUSINESS ON THE FRASER COAST &
UP UNTIL NOW HAVE BEEN RE-TIPPING EACH TEETH AT $35.00 A TOOTH
BUT SINCE A PRICE DECREASE AT MULTI-TIP AT AROUND $30.00 EACH
THANKS RAY.
PLASE NOTE:EXCELLENT CUTTING SYSTEM VERY QUICK CHANGE & CAN BE
RE-SHARPENED SEVEREL TIMES.
GARYHYLAND
FRASER COAST STUMPGRINDING

Multi-Tip Australia

G'day All
We at MT would like to thank the following customers for their taking advantage of our special deal on boxes of teeth.
FRASER COAST STUMP GRINDING, QLD. Laski F450
A CUT ABOVE TREE SERVICES, ACT. Vermeer 60TX*
BAROSSA TREE SERVICES, SA. Vermeer 655b*
BRISBANE TREE SERVICES, QLD. Vermeer 60TX*
JUST STUMP GRINDING, QLD. Kanga Terminator
AUSTRAL TREE SERVICES, SA. Rayco RG50 x2*
GOLD COAST STUMP GRINDING, QLD. Rayco 1625*

We also welcome to the MULTI-TIP experience,
A CUT ABOVE TREE SERVICES of A.C.T. and their Vermeer 60TX
NORTH QUEENSLAND TREE SERVICES and their Rayco 1631*
Also RHYSCORP, VIC. makers of Stumphumpers*

* Still waiting for the photo's (&vids)

Multi-Tip Australia

G'day All
We have special deal- two 'start-up' kits for the STUMPHUMPER machines available at a discounted price of $770 ea. plus freight.
These kits normally retail for $980 ea. That's a saving of $210.

The 'start-up' kit includes the cutter wheel (6 slot), 6 cutter/teeth, 6 keeper blocks, 6 threaded inserts and 6 bolts.
Extra sets of cutters/teeth are always available and as always we do a better price for boxes of 50 cutters/teeth (see previous posts)

Multi-Tip Australia

G'day
Bit slow off the mark!
Thought we'd post a link here to Eric's Terminator/Honda changeover.

The part we'd like to draw your attention to is were he's running for the Terminator first time, about 6.25 mins into the vid.
For those that are thinking about the MULTI-TIP system, it's a point of reference.
As always, you can call or email us for any of your questions.
Regards
The team from-

stevo N

Hi all,
was just wondering if everyone is happy with the multi tip cutting system?
In looking at it I am having some difficulty in seeing how it cuts better than other systems like the set up on say a rayco & I am not saying the rayco teeth,
I would think that if you were using either the yellow jacket or green teeth the difference would not be great.

Noel

Multi-Tip Australia

Hello Steve/Noel
These may be of assistance-

YouTube - STUMPKINGS's Channel

You may have seen these, but if you see an interesting item in the rest of the vids, maybe let us know and we can assist with contact.

We don’t believe that it’s ethical to be comparing our system with other stump cutting systems, but we know that there are some very nasty, incorrect and just blatant lies being put out about the MULTI-TIP system, and we would welcome the chance to refute and correct these inaccuracies, should you come across them.
All the best,
The Team from -

Eric Frei

Watching other people grind I can say many have no idea on something that I consider a no brainer.

The other day I saw a guy start grinding by plunging into the centre of the stump and working his way backward and forward.

I see people (smaller grinders like Dosko and Rg20) start at the back of the stump and work to the front, like climb milling (yes, I'm an ex fitter/turner).

I see people get impatient and bash the stump, plunging into it etc.

So for a true comparison to be made I think the same machine and operator are required, and then you may even get a worse result with a better product.

Why?

Because if poor technique is being utilised then a superior system may exacerbate the load plus wear and tear which is misinterpreted as a fault of the cutting system not the operator. Just like it's safer for some cooks to have blunt knives.

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Eric Frei

I took this picture on my phone as it was all I had with me.

Looks like a Vermeer SC60TX

Now I watched carefully and I saw it did have the multi-tip system.

I also saw it did have blank or missing spots in the teeth configuration, in other words some teeth were not there.

I saw the truck was too close and the operator struggled to get the machine closer to the stump to grind appropriately starting from one end to the other.

I saw the operator plunge into the middle of the stump, and you can see in the poor quality picture I am not lying.

I saw the machine vibrate and shudder as the stump was plunge cut, it wasn't good.

I saw the operator going forward over the stump, getting deeper then climb milling backward, again the big 60hp machine was shaking and labouring.

I have no doubt that a machine being used in this fashion will break down regardless of how well made it is, it is only a matter of time. Then if it does the manf will look for a scape goat. That stump was not that big nor was it ironbark or worse, a leopard tree. Repeated use like that with any cutter system will result in some sort of drive train failures.

The teeth are designed to cut left to right and vice versa, you sweep the stump. You start from the front and work you way back using the 6 o'clock to 9 o'clock position of the cutter wheel allowing debris to escape in the designed direction.

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Multi-Tip Australia

G’day
Just received this and thought we’d post it as general info.
To- MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA, Regarding the hints regarding re-sharpening in the field. It takes me less time to change a tooth than it does to re-sharpen one in the field so I don't even bother to sharpen one. I just slip in a new one and sharpen the old one at home when I've got more time. I'm very happy with the system. The other system was such a drag to replace a tooth that I would do anything to avoid it in the field.
Thanks
Mike Atkinson Alderley Qld 4051 Vermeer 252

Ray,
The other issue with Multi tip teeth which affects operators hip pockets is the number of spare teeth you must have on hand. With the system I used before I needed to have spare teeth to fit the left side, the right side and the center of the wheel because each one is a different shape. That means having to pay for three types of teeth, and ehough(sic) of each to be safe, which represents quite a bit of money. With Multi Tip teeth, any tooth fits any slot on the wheel so you only need a few spares and that is enough. Naturally, that alone saves you money.
Feel free to use that as a quote as well if you wish.
Mike

Multi-Tip Australia

More from Mike.
Umbrellas are spreading

Hi Ray, This is a look at my setup where you can clearly see the MULTI TIP mechanism, and my umbrella, of course. Mike (Atkinson)




Best regards,

Multi-Tip Australia

Hello All
This post is to let everyone know that MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA is having a SPRING SALE-
For the month of September 2011, MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA is offering - a ‘cutter wheel and set-up kit’ for your machine, ABSOLUTELY FREE!

There is only one condition, you must purchase a box of 50 teeth/cutters.

This is a considerable saving across all power ratings and brands of machines*
As an example-
For a ‘Stumphumper set-up’(6 cutter wheel) it will save you more than $550.00
For a ‘Vermeer SX set-up’ (12 cutter wheel) it will save you in excess of $1 000.00
Remember, we can supply ‘set-ups’ for just about every machine on the market.
Don’t delay, call today!

Note 1: ‘set-up kit’ includes the cutter wheel, keeper blocks, threaded inserts and bolts, to suit.
Note 2: Fitting not included.
Note 3: Freight is extra.
Note 4: Our normal conditions apply. *Not applicable for hand held machines.

Call or email if you’ve got any more questions.
Best regards,
Ray and the team from -

MULTI-TIP AUSTRALIA
THE 60 SECOND CUTTER SOLUTION
MULTI-TIP | Australia info@multi-tip.com.au
0403 882 833 P.O. Box 630 Paddington 2021 NSW

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