Isle of Man Tree Surgery| Aerial Arborist

TREE-SURFER · 14th November 2007, 01:48 AM

Isle of Man Tree Surgery Company

Dedicated to ridding the Island of Tree Toppers

All our operatives are NPTC Qualified and working to BS3998.

Call, for a free written Quotation or Estimate.

Tree Survey reports on request for home-owners, Insurance Companies, Building Societies, Building Contractors and Architects. POA.

Call Andy Today on 07624-479946 and get yours properly looked at.

If you have any queries about your trees, you will always get a fast and reliable answer here:Ask an Arborist and post a new thread with your question.

Check out the competitions work. Please don't let others do this to yours. Visit this thread called "Isle of Man Tree Surgery Club"

Ekka · 15th November 2007, 01:30 PM

Isle of Man is fortunate to have a good knowledgeable arborist like you there Andy.

I can tell by your posts, contribution and dedication to proper tree care and business professionalism that you have pride in your work and care for trees in addition to doing those removals safely.

Kudos to you mate, and good luck in ridding those hackers who destroy trees for the sake of a dollar.

TREE-SURFER · 15th November 2007, 02:15 PM

Thank you Ekka,

Most people who own trees, don't usually know what they have or what they are worth.

Trees that grow around our urban lifestyle and especially, around our houses, add value to the property.

If those trees are not looked after properly, then Estate agents who hire people like us to make a TREE SURVEY REPORT and the owners have had the cowboys in, then that would decrease the value of that house, should there be any form of malpractice to the tree.

TOPPING, HEADING, HATRACKING will only mean disaster and more money spent by the owner to have it remedied, or removed, usually by the same crew that destroyed the tree in the first place. This is just a means to get more future work.

The Aerial Arborist will walk away from a site, should the customer ask, "Just basically cut it in half". Would you ask to have your arm removed by a Chiropodist, for a complaint of an ingrown toe nail. Simply put, NO!

Make sure you know what you are getting into when hiring Tree Cutters. Ask for qualifications, insurance, even ask what they will do to your tree. If anything, Ask an Arborist here, leave a message and someone will get back to you, usually within 12 hours.

Lets leave the TREE TOPPERS on the ground.

Ekka · 15th November 2007, 02:35 PM

From personal experience I can say topping is contagious.

You tend to see it in groups and can see where the guy went down the street administering his dose of malpractice and ignorance.

There are some arguments that certain trees etc will grow tall and self destruct, break in the wind/snow/ice etc.

There are correct and more appropriate pruning techniques.

Some of those techniques are reduction, pollarding, and thinning. Again there's a thread running here where some of the concepts are discussed and also a PowerPoint presentation. Point 3 of that presentation does mention topping however do realize it's for special cases, it also comes with it's own cautions ...

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NOTES:
1 This type of pruning should be done in several stages in an attempt to induce stable and successful regrowth.
2 Consideration should be given to removing dangerous trees.
3 Remedial pruning may create hazards from weak branch attachment. Trees should be carefully monitored.

Anti Topping Campaign

Also to consider, we are talking about trees not shrubs. The difference as defined by a great author and tree man the late Shigo was if it can fall over or break off and hurt or kill you then it's a tree.

newguy18 · 16th November 2007, 08:30 PM

i have an uncle who swears topping is the best thing for a tree.he topped all his trees in dade city and when a good bit of rain came through almost all of them blew over and the ones that remaind broke at least in half where they were previously topped.the bad part was that he had a 80' bucket he wouldn't sell me and when he finally got rid of it he pulled the generator and scraped it.Moron

TREE-SURFER · 18th November 2007, 02:40 PM

This Acer Pseudoplatanus (Sycamore), had to be removed for ill health.

20 years ago, along with the house, a wall was built not 6 and a half feet away from the tree.

This could have been prevented, had the contractors known about the risks of cutting through roots.

It's almost sad to watch another tree go through the chipper.

British Standards 5837:2005, Trees in relation to Construction now have this covered with Root Protection Zones

newguy18 · 18th November 2007, 03:41 PM

nice pics and its good to see people who know what they're doing getting work.

pomme · 19th November 2007, 10:40 AM

bs 5837 is great but unfortunatly not enforced enough. all to often i have seen root zones used as storage areas and access areas for plant. good luck tree surfer in your quest to rid your island of the unscrupulous(?) traders

TREE-SURFER · 23rd November 2007, 03:33 AM

Writing Tree Survey Reports for this site, took just over 1 week.

Noting every little detail about every tree that would be affected.

Out of 37 trees, (including small copses,) because of the nature of the site, 33 would have to be felled. Some folk say that this is a natural woodland, but professionaly speaking, it has just been left to go into ruin. Mutilation of trees, including cuts and being set on fire, have left them hazardous. The 37 reported on, are just in the lower part of the woodland, whereas, a further 200 will require another report.

This site, is indeed private property, which has had public access for many years, as a short cut, purely because, no maintenence was ever carried out over a fifty year span. The land was given to a charity on the wishes of the owner on her death, to do something with. The new land owners now wish to develope houses to be sold and raise money for the charity. Which means, trees that would be deemed natural, would infact be classified as hazardous in the public domain.

The owners, under Law, would have to have work done to them in order to make them safe, felling, pruning, limbing, dead-wooding etc. To keep out the public, would mean that a boundry wall or fence would have to be errected, again, to keep the public safe.
The trees that I have condemed are to be removed, but the powers that be, say there is nothing wrong with the trees, in a woodland. That is ok, but, "Will you put that in writing?" answer, "No!".

So, do we keep it as a natural woodland for the benefit of the trees and let the public carry on walking their dogs, or do we have a managed area, where the trees, wildlife and people can live.

Done it · 25th November 2007, 03:16 AM

I hate doing this, I try to tell them it's wrong but that's what they want. If I don't do it they will get someone else. You should see some of the jobs I have not done around here, it would make you sick.

Sean Freeman · 25th November 2007, 03:24 AM

Post some pics up if you can Done it, Parramatta is a very beautiful spot in places, the ISAAC conference was there in 04 (I think) I had a great time there.

JayD · 25th November 2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Done it

I hate doing this, I try to tell them it's wrong but that's what they want. If I don't do it they will get someone else. You should see some of the jobs I have not done around here, it would make you sick.

Hi Done it,
Mate stand by your guns, Dont do it your reputation is not worth it, Me we talk our customer around, If we can't we walk and keep an eye on the job if it's gets done we report them!..

Topping of trees is just not on! and against the law, We as a whole has to say..NO...Forget about the money, work by the AS prunning standard and your work will find you, and you can walk away with your head high an shoulders back and you wont have to quake yourself everytime the TPO approaches you.

Welcome to TreeWorld

Done it · 26th November 2007, 02:08 AM

Thanks mate, but I can't hold my head up or shoulders back, I've been splitting wood all weekend and clearing power wires with a pole saw today

Therrin · 1st December 2007, 11:59 PM

I hear ya on the sore back Done it, I spent the entire day splitting wood also. Standing is too tall for me, and otherwise I'm just down on my knees all the time. I switch off with the guy I hired to work with me, that way we both got some relief. What a crummy day, its freezin outside all day, and the wind didn't help any.

Back sure is sore!

15th November 2007, 01:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: The Aerial Arborist, Isle of Man, Tree Surgery Isle of Man is fortunate to have a good knowledgeable arborist like you there Andy. I can tell by your posts, contribution and dedication to proper tree care and business professionalism that you have pride in your work and care for trees in addition to doing those removals safely. Kudos to you mate, and good luck in ridding those hackers who destroy trees for the sake of a dollar. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

16th November 2007, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,200	Re: The Aerial Arborist, Isle of Man, Tree Surgery i have an uncle who swears topping is the best thing for a tree.he topped all his trees in dade city and when a good bit of rain came through almost all of them blew over and the ones that remaind broke at least in half where they were previously topped.the bad part was that he had a 80' bucket he wouldn't sell me and when he finally got rid of it he pulled the generator and scraped it.Moron __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

18th November 2007, 03:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,200	Re: The Aerial Arborist, Isle of Man, Tree Surgery nice pics and its good to see people who know what they're doing getting work. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

19th November 2007, 10:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
pomme Fly'n Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 206	Re: The Aerial Arborist, Isle of Man, Tree Surgery bs 5837 is great but unfortunatly not enforced enough. all to often i have seen root zones used as storage areas and access areas for plant. good luck tree surfer in your quest to rid your island of the unscrupulous(?) traders

25th November 2007, 03:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
Done it Fly'n Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia. Posts: 170	Re: Isle of Man Tree Surgery\| Aerial Arborist I hate doing this, I try to tell them it's wrong but that's what they want. If I don't do it they will get someone else. You should see some of the jobs I have not done around here, it would make you sick.

25th November 2007, 03:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Re: Isle of Man Tree Surgery\| Aerial Arborist Post some pics up if you can Done it, Parramatta is a very beautiful spot in places, the ISAAC conference was there in 04 (I think) I had a great time there. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

26th November 2007, 02:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
Done it Fly'n Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parramatta. nsw. Australia. Posts: 170	Re: Isle of Man Tree Surgery\| Aerial Arborist Thanks mate, but I can't hold my head up or shoulders back, I've been splitting wood all weekend and clearing power wires with a pole saw today

1st December 2007, 11:59 PM	#14 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,113	Re: Isle of Man Tree Surgery\| Aerial Arborist I hear ya on the sore back Done it, I spent the entire day splitting wood also. Standing is too tall for me, and otherwise I'm just down on my knees all the time. I switch off with the guy I hired to work with me, that way we both got some relief. What a crummy day, its freezin outside all day, and the wind didn't help any. Back sure is sore! __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703