Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage

lenphillips · 1st January 2008, 04:50 PM

Online Seminars has an article called Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage. It will be available for discussion at the website for January and February.
on-line-seminars.com - Protection from Winter Damage

I believe salt damage to trees is a grand environmentalist scheme to demand that street departments change their plans to make our winter roads safe. I do not think salt damage is as bad as this article reports. Do you agree?

Ekka · 1st January 2008, 09:36 PM

I live in semi-tropics, cant really say.

Winter is great weather for most part.

treevet · 2nd January 2008, 06:24 PM

It seems that TGR s would also have some benefit to "winterizing". I was aware that anti-transpirants/dessicants (sp.?) often washed off during the season but was not aware that research showed they do not work at all.

mdvaden · 2nd January 2008, 06:43 PM

One paragraph near the beginning was...

Quote:

A fertilization regimen in the fall can help prepare trees for spring. Many arborists use a slow-release fertilizer after plants have gone dormant following a good hard freeze but before the ground is frozen. Fall fertilization with an effective slow-release fertilizer is great preventative maintenance for nutrient-deficient, high-value trees. Avoid using fertilizer with highly available nitrogen after July because it can force too much new growth at the wrong time of year.

If I recall correctly, nitrogen tends to produce thinner cell walls in plants, probably less desireable in winter.

One thing I'm curious about, is if potassium can aid trees, in a similar fashion to how it helps turf through a cold winter.

(Not Australian winter - Ekka)

bigshea13 · 3rd January 2008, 12:28 PM

I believe salt damage to trees is a grand environmentalist scheme to demand that street departments change their plans to make our winter roads safe. I do not think salt damage is as bad as this article reports. Do you agree?
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ny state uses lotsa salt and as a result the cedars that poeple plant next to roadsided die off quickly when young. pretty sure its the salt because i dont notice anything else on or around the trees. they look as if they are just drying up. the same cedars planted off the road a ways seem to do just fine.

HedAke · 8th January 2008, 06:58 AM

Len, you're hilarious! Those wacky Environmentalists and their Grand Schemes! Salt spray/runoff probably causes more harm to conifers than deciduous trees, but unless there is sufficient irrigation when the ground thaws, both types of trees may suffer set backs.

Just my 2 cents which doesn't amount to much, does it? Tchukki

newguy18 · 8th January 2008, 08:17 PM

hmm sounds like one of us actually needs to get 2 small cedars and pot them and carry a year long experiment where one gets sailt and the other doesn't and share the findings and study here.Just a thought.

ropensaddle · 8th January 2008, 11:28 PM

Selecting a cold tolerant species, should be or have been #1
Mulch organic can help protect the roots , planting near
buildings, near water can help protect as well as avoiding
planting in frost pockets.

Oh after re-reading the salt issue, Again proper selection,
could help right tree right spot! Factors would be specific
to location, roads not having storm drains would definitely
have more salt issues than ones with runoff! Are the species
salt tolerant how close to the road etc. Good question and
discussion

ropensaddle · 8th January 2008, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdvaden

One paragraph near the beginning was...

If I recall correctly, nitrogen tends to produce thinner cell walls in plants, probably less desireable in winter.

One thing I'm curious about, is if potassium can aid trees, in a similar fashion to how it helps turf through a cold winter.

(Not Australian winter - Ekka)

Soil structure, texture analysis and species would be of epic
importance!

1st January 2008, 04:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
lenphillips Gettin' motoring Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 43	Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage Online Seminars has an article called Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage. It will be available for discussion at the website for January and February. on-line-seminars.com - Protection from Winter Damage I believe salt damage to trees is a grand environmentalist scheme to demand that street departments change their plans to make our winter roads safe. I do not think salt damage is as bad as this article reports. Do you agree? __________________ Len Phillips Administrator Online Seminars for Municipal Arborists

1st January 2008, 09:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage I live in semi-tropics, cant really say. Winter is great weather for most part. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

2nd January 2008, 06:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
treevet Astronaut Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 598	Re: Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage It seems that TGR s would also have some benefit to "winterizing". I was aware that anti-transpirants/dessicants (sp.?) often washed off during the season but was not aware that research showed they do not work at all.

3rd January 2008, 12:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigshea13 Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: hiding Posts: 388	Re: Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage I believe salt damage to trees is a grand environmentalist scheme to demand that street departments change their plans to make our winter roads safe. I do not think salt damage is as bad as this article reports. Do you agree? __________________ ny state uses lotsa salt and as a result the cedars that poeple plant next to roadsided die off quickly when young. pretty sure its the salt because i dont notice anything else on or around the trees. they look as if they are just drying up. the same cedars planted off the road a ways seem to do just fine.

8th January 2008, 06:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
HedAke Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 3	Re: Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage Len, you're hilarious! Those wacky Environmentalists and their Grand Schemes! Salt spray/runoff probably causes more harm to conifers than deciduous trees, but unless there is sufficient irrigation when the ground thaws, both types of trees may suffer set backs. Just my 2 cents which doesn't amount to much, does it? Tchukki

8th January 2008, 08:17 PM	#7 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,195	Re: Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage hmm sounds like one of us actually needs to get 2 small cedars and pot them and carry a year long experiment where one gets sailt and the other doesn't and share the findings and study here.Just a thought. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

8th January 2008, 11:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
ropensaddle Cruisin' Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arkansas Posts: 55	Re: Protecting Trees & Shrubs against Winter Damage Selecting a cold tolerant species, should be or have been #1 Mulch organic can help protect the roots , planting near buildings, near water can help protect as well as avoiding planting in frost pockets. Oh after re-reading the salt issue, Again proper selection, could help right tree right spot! Factors would be specific to location, roads not having storm drains would definitely have more salt issues than ones with runoff! Are the species salt tolerant how close to the road etc. Good question and discussion

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