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Old 11th March 2010, 08:49 PM   #1
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Old 11th March 2010, 08:50 PM   #2
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http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PRO-78CC-24-CHAINSAW-OREGON-CHAIN-Bonus-PRUNER-SAW_W0QQitemZ260560669482QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_15?hash=item3caaa04b2a
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Old 11th March 2010, 09:28 PM   #3
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Wouldn't call it a pro saw but at $200 id think about one as a trash saw for palms. I dont do to many palms so having a cheap saw to trash would be good but wouldn't use that saw for anything else. The TAFE I was at had one similar was no end of trouble and the break became defective after it was taken out of the box.
Quality is important in this job.
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Old 11th March 2010, 11:33 PM   #4
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Bloody hell that is bad, real bad.

Doesn't anyone read specs? Only a 3 month warranty.

Have a look at this.

In the description they write:-

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This 24" bar professional chainsaw powered by 78cc commercial grade engine is an extremely lightweight with plenty of power.With endless power, huge cutting capacity there is simply no other choice for Australia's hottest new saw, which is perfect for any application, whether it be preparing firewood, lopping medium to large trees, clearing those overhanging branches, removing bushfire hazards or as a great companion on your next 4WD adventure or camping trip.
Now look at the facts from this snake oil salesman



Imagine that it weights 9.1Kg DRY weight no bar/chain!

It's 78.5 cc but only has 2.94Kw and some super low RPM of 6500rpm

Now put you in the picture with Stihl and Husky in that engine size.

Stihl MS460, 6.5kg dry weight, 76.5CC and 4.4kw power
Husky 576, 6.6kg dry weight, 73.5CC and 4.2kw power

I doubt that this saw would pull a full compliment 24" chain through a hardwood log. And the weight, bloody ms880's or Husky 120's weight that much.

Just some cheap Chinese no name crap.
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Old 12th March 2010, 05:00 AM   #5
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Bloody hell that is bad, real bad.

Doesn't anyone read specs? Only a 3 month warranty.
Isnt that the same warranty Stihl Pro saws get?
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Old 12th March 2010, 07:22 AM   #6
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Isnt that the same warranty Stihl Pro saws get?
No it's not, so perhaps you can research why it's not the same rather than wank on.
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Old 12th March 2010, 10:46 AM   #7
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Bloody hell that is bad, real bad.

Doesn't anyone read specs? Only a 3 month warranty.

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Isnt that the same warranty Stihl Pro saws get?
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No it's not, so perhaps you can research why it's not the same rather than wank on.
I was just having fun, But since you want proof.

Read A II as a Pro making money you have a 90 day warranty, as a homeowner user you have a year on a chainsaw.

http://www.stihlusa.com/STIHLInc_Lim...anty_10.09.pdf
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Well, it's 12 months here .... hey, Stihl knows how you Yanks treat chainsaws.
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Old 12th March 2010, 06:41 PM   #9
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I always tell 'em its for home use. They have no way to tell if it is a home use or pro use saw. Also I use a Capital One CC so I get double the warantee time on my purchses. As of yet, I have never had to take a Stihl in for any warantee work. Ever.

As for that POS listed, it has less power than a 361, and weighs almost twice as much! Chicom crap!

One good thing about the new US EPA laws is that that crap cannot be sold here any more.
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Old 12th March 2010, 11:24 PM   #10
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The 2 husky NE 346xp I bought this year, I told the owner dont even worry about the warranty down the road. That they wont even see gas before they come apart for the port work, one will never see gas at all.
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Noticed that on the wood work forums and like they said there where s the chain brake
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Old 13th March 2010, 07:55 AM   #12
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Dang, I missed that ... you are right no chainbrake.

What make is this thing and who the hell are this mob that sell it?

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Old 13th March 2010, 08:09 AM   #13
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Its amusing to gussy up a saw all around the Oregon chain.

No drippy bar. Bar last long time.

No smog, no chainbrake - illegal to sell here in the states.

Free box of Top Ramen with every saw!

My ex would want the purple side cover though.
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Old 13th March 2010, 09:42 PM   #14
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For a while they where putting Stihl bar and chains on those cheap saws on e-bay in Australia and selling them around the bar and chain.Thankfully its been stopped.

Check out the color schemes allot of those cheap saws are using now.That red and white looks familiar!!!

Of course all those cheap saws on e-bay are Pro Saws
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Old 13th March 2010, 10:27 PM   #15
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Those cheap orange an white one s called Brumar Ag from ebay . Have earned me enough money to pay for its self and 2 new stihls. Are they on par with a stihl no bloody way do they do the job yes just slower and dont last as long. I ll always have one with me especially on an hour rate job for a painfull customer, But I ll also use one to teach my boy and nephew s with as well right size right weight but only half the power. As to that pictured chain saw thats someone comming seeing that the other guys are doing ok selling chain saws and jumping on the band wagon with out having a bloody clue, as usuall here for a dollar not for the long haul
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Old 14th March 2010, 07:27 AM   #16
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I just cannot see using one of them for any reason. Half the power and twice the weight, I would rather have a used Stihl for the same money. A really good condition used 310 here is about that price, and can be easilly modified. Far less weight, and it will last 10 years and run a 25 inch bar. Safety and reliability are far more cost effective in my book. I can also get a good running Oly like my 254 for about $150 around here. It would cut circles around that Chicom crap.

I just do not get it... $300 Aussy clams for that shit??? That is $270 USD at today's exchange rate. Why? Why? Why?
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Old 14th March 2010, 10:49 AM   #17
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Dang, I missed that ... you are right no chainbrake.

What make is this thing and who the hell are this mob that sell it?

Something doesn't look right about this saw, almost looks like the image is a computer made graphic or something.
Notice the roller nose tip attached to the sprocket nose tip and there's no rivits holding them together, that doesn't make sense. Also what the bar name looks like it should be Oregon but the muffs are hiding it. The same name logo is on the air filter cover and it doesn't say Oregon.
I think someone is having fun with a computer.
Hell the chain is even on backwards
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Hell the chain is even on backwards
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Bugger me!

It is too, WTF are these clowns up to? I think they need a good whooping.
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Old 14th March 2010, 11:13 AM   #19
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I just did a little research. This is a real image or saw
It's a Ouligen notice the resemblence to "Oregon". Manufactured by a Chinese company Yong Kang Ouligan Tools Manuf. Ltd.
Man they had to combine a 40 yr old roller nose and a modern sprocket nose together for lack of western world parts. I can see the 3 rivets holding them together on an other site.
This is bizare.
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Old 14th March 2010, 11:51 AM   #20
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Yah, the best in Chicom quality!

"Rakah follo cuttah... I see on TV rogging show! Chain run backward, no need brake!"

See, that's the way the saw runs... bass aackwards!!!!!

No kickback that way, so no brake required!
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Old 14th March 2010, 11:59 AM   #21
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And just remember, its:

USA CHAIN!!!!!!

In case you missed it...
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For the full line of Ouligen ("oregon" in Chinese?) tools, see them online at alibaba:

Yongkang Ouligen Tools Manufacturing Co., Ltd. - Gasoline Chain Saw, Brush Cutter, Hedge Trimmer

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Hey Man, I want to know more about them there Ouligen roller nose bars. Got to be cheaper then my Cannon Super roller nose bar for the new hotsaw.
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Old 15th March 2010, 08:33 AM   #24
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Hey Man, I want to know more about them there Ouligen roller nose bars. Got to be cheaper then my Cannon Super roller nose bar for the new hotsaw.
Kevin the roller nose on that bar is not the big 2 7/8" looks like the small one.
I wonder if they are Oregon?
You're better off looking for the 2 7/8" roller, collectors would probably steer you in the right direction. I got about 4 left, 2 brand new still in the package [ last few Madsens had in stock in 1984] but I can't let them go, near impossible to find these days.
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Old 15th March 2010, 09:24 AM   #25
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Apart from being dangerouse they are mukcy mashines 20:1 and low revs 8000 iff i was gonna get a cheap saw and iff! would try a silverline 52 cc can get one for just over 100 pounds but they look a lot better than these!!!
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Kevin the roller nose on that bar is not the big 2 7/8" looks like the small one.
I wonder if they are Oregon?
You're better off looking for the 2 7/8" roller, collectors would probably steer you in the right direction. I got about 4 left, 2 brand new still in the package [ last few Madsens had in stock in 1984] but I can't let them go, near impossible to find these days.
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It's no biggie Willard. Cannon has Torrington making their roller noses for the competition bars.

I have been letting my old roller nose bars cut for big gears on 084's go with saw sales. Let 2 of them go in Jan alone.
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Old 15th March 2010, 12:21 PM   #27
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Did you take a look at the rest of the range lol
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Old 15th March 2010, 01:47 PM   #28
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It's no biggie Willard. Cannon has Torrington making their roller noses for the competition bars.

I have been letting my old roller nose bars cut for big gears on 084's go with saw sales. Let 2 of them go in Jan alone.
I 've been out of the race circuit for some time, so Torrington is new to me. Do they make those rollers in .050, .058 or just .063 ?
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They have been around forever it seems Willard, made in USA, CT. Here was some of the old roller nose I let go, Torrington and Oregon.

The new ones say 063 standard and special ordered 050 and 058.
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They have been around forever it seems Willard, made in USA, CT. Here was some of the old roller nose I let go, Torrington and Oregon.

The new ones say 063 standard and special ordered 050 and 058.
Thanks for the tip Kevin. I owe you one. [I didn't mean a bar tip]
If those Oregons to the left are the "big" 2 7/8", then the Torrington is well over 3".
Thats good to know their available in .050.058 .063 . Years ago I had General build me a deep belly bar .050 for my bike saw and the bars only a 1/8" thick.
To match the 2 7/8" .063 roller nose up, I went to all the trouble of taking the roller apart , milling down the races and installing .050 laminated bar bearings. What a PITA, but it was worth the trouble , that .050 Windsor or Oregon chain ran true.
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