What saw? 576XP, 372Xp, MS441or MS460

Husqy

Hi folks, first post on here. I'm based in the UK cutting mainly standing and wind thrown broad leaf, using 20", 24" and occasionally 28" bars.

At present I run a 357 (back up and limbing) and a 575 XP for felling and crosscutting. The 575 has been a good saw for me with no problems however I’m aware of the issues with them and wary of buying another and getting a bad one.

I’m after a second large saw and am torn between what to get, Is the 576 radically different to the 575 and should I consider it?

On paper I prefer the 460 but is the power difference noticeable over the 441 particularly with the larger bars. I’m working at low altitude and uk type temperatures so none of the strat engine altitude issues.

372 I’ve used before but I'm not that keen on them overall although I never had any issues.


Money isn’t an issue, but as I like to keep my saws reliability and cutting ability is. BTW, in the event of my 357 going down I like the agility of a 70cc saw so a 90cc saw isn’t really an option.

newguy18

I'm not sure which one is better,never owned any of them.Alos when you do decide,i ship saws from the usa to other countries,in case yuo wanna get a better deal.

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Eric Frei

First of all.

Yes, there's a solid difference between 441 and 460.

Yes, 460's are more powerful than 372's and a lot tougher.

I'd say get a MS460 Magnum.

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woodman55

I have both the 460 and 372 and the 460 is not tougher. They are both two of the finest saws that they have ever made. The only knock I would have on either is the stihl is slightly less smooth and the husky filtration system is far more superior. We run both saws everyday and have problems with neither, we just have to tap out the 460 filter every other tank and the 372 every other day thats it. Either saw is a fine choice.

rbtree

+1.....

A bone stock 460 is nearly worthless...but all ya gotta do is open up the stock muffler port to the size they used to be, about 9/16th, and add another port, or buy the dual port cover.....and even hog it out a bit. That's what I did to the 440 that I sent Ekka a few years back.

I love 372's....am down to one for the time being...one threw a rod bearing. one was smashed by a bonehead crew, and one was stolen.

But I've just made a great deal to get 4 saws from a bud who has gone outta biz...2 372's and a 357, all woods ported by Ed Heard.....one of the 372's is tuned a bit too much for hard tree work, or so Ken says...so I'll have to use it just now and then...and for competitions as he's sending a pipe along with it!! Heh.

And, as my crew prefers 200T's over my 335/338/2139's, I'm getting a 200T as well, for a pittance....

Word is, the 576 is a bit better than the 575--lighter and faster.
The EPA compliant 441 is nice, but slower than the old design 460 and about the same weight.

TreeTrim

I ran a 441 71cc and a 570 68cc for a short while. I came away with the 441 is a pig and the 570 had a broader torque range IMHO then the bigger cc 441.
The 441 seem to even bog in pine, while the 570 would do cut oak and even rip oak without a problem.
Stock the 460's are wimps too imo. But I would get it before the other choices. 372's stock are boring also.

If you are running only stock saws. See if you can find a Dolmar 7900 or Solo 681 to give a test drive. True stock saw beast.

corey

i have a 460 with a 24" bar, and i have no problems cutting with it, except for the meat heads that keep putting the chain in the dirt.

for those of you that say the 460 is whimpy, can you go into more detail on how to do the mods? i think it kicks ass as is. its not my 660, but i still like the 460. nice and light, put an 18" bar on it for cutting firewood all day and let it rip.

MrDiesel

I just got a new 441 and reckon its great. Ive had it for about 2 months and reach for it before the 575 everytime. Its just keeps pulling. Ive ran it dry twice and its started within about 4 pulls every time. The only drama ive had is the decomp can be a bit cranky sometimes ie its released after 1 or 2 pulls even though it hasnt fired

pomme

395xp is what you want

Eric Frei

The plastic Stihl uses is far better than Husky, tougher.

The brake band spring idea in the 372 is hopeless compaired to Stihl.

Less crap gets into the workings of the Stihl in that area, for me cutting palms the Husky life span under 3 months.

Crack the Husky handle and you have a fuel leak.

Simply not as rugged, no way, no comparison ... I owned one ... for 3 months, and then owned Stihl 460's near 9 years.

In the 3 months, starter rewind spring broke, starter cords, chain break corroded out and very hard to fix, plastic cover over retention spring popped out, broke plastic cover and screw holes, strip carby as pedantic bugger with idling ... just went on and on then I got the Stihl and converted over for life. Tough saws.

I left the 46 on the tool box, drove off and went around a round-a-bout ... it went skidding off and bashed into the gutter, cracked rear handle, no fuel leaks and Stihl working with it today. Tough saws, tough plastic. Got my vote.

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letigre

ive used all of them with the exception of the 576. would be interested in hearing something about them. i reckon a 441 arctic and 46 are keen for blocking down (chunking or bucking for you yanks). but it sounds like you want something bigger. the ms 66 magnum is almost my favourite saw for mid to large ground work and bigger blocking down. pulls real hard and is weighted nice. 575 and 372 are great but a bit underpowered for bigger stuff and funny weighted imo. 385xp or 395xp are good options also. but 066 for me all the way.

woodman55

I'm a big fan of stihl and husky probably more stihl but to say that husky is not as rugged is crazy. They both have some crap saws and some saws that are renowned. If you only get 3 months out of a husky your doin something wrong, I cut commercially and can make a poulan last longer than that. Quit brand bashing and deal with the fact they both make nice saws.

Eric Frei

Perhaps if you ask questions you'll get answers, doing something wrong. Lordy! FACT: Stihl are tougher.

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newguy18

Of course hes doing something wrong,hes using decent saws on palms,palms will kill damn near anything.I had a new poulan,lasted a mere 6 weeks.

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Husqy

An update,

I tried a 460 and 441 and went for the 441, (I preferred the balance) decided against the 576 in the end.

Ive been running it for a while now and can only report positive things, very comfortable to use and nicely balanced and very good on fuel.

I intend to get a 660 or 595 soon for the bigger wood but at the moment I just about get by albeit a bit slower.

Thank you all for your responses.

logfrog

Hands down MS460 Magnum

rbtree

Save for palm problems, I disagree.....Nothing wrong with Stihls, but I have run Huskys for many years. They're fine..have never had a problem with brake bands.....I clean my saws regularly....leaks? almost never....

Air filtration, anti-vib are better...typically a tad more power....with some saws....overall, great saws. I've had as many problems with Stihl starter cords as Husky....but few with either.....s

stock 260, 361, 440, 460, 660 are muffled to the point of being gutless, at least in the US to meet EPA. moreso than Husky or Dolmar, why I dunno. Easy fix, though! gain back that power and more with a good muffler porting.

rbtree

If anyone wants to buy a used relatively low hours 575XP, I just helped out a broke young fella and took it off his hands......$400 plus shipping.

Mechanically perfect, shows typical wear from tree service use. compression is 145 lb cold....

I also scored a nice 460 and almost brand new 192T.....boy are they gutless stock!!it came with a 16 inch bar and .050 chain.....we'll fix that, port the muffler, go to a 12 or 14 bar, maybe .043. Poor kid being out of work is my gain.

Steve Tipton

They're all good saws mate. Depends on your use.
I love the 460 with 20" bar, but our timber id pretty hard. My brother has a 24inch bar on his 460 and it goes well on Willow and Camphor Laurel etc.

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Eric Frei

How much for the 460 Rb?

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rick

No, opinion

Mate here runs Huskies exclusively. Has had a better run out of them than Stihls.

For the OP, consider a Makita DCS 7901 (Dolmar PS7900). One of the best out of the box 80cc saws around. Air filtration isn't it's strong suit, or more correctly it'll clog quicker than a Husky, so you throw the spare filter you carry in your box on.

rbtree

With the new filter cover which has fine mesh in it, the particles are caught before they get to the filter....huge improvement.

I now have 3 7900's or 7901's, and 3 372's, and a 460....think I'm set for 70-80 cube saws for, uhhh, 30 more years.....by then, I'll be 89...

3 are woods ported, 3 are stock or muffler modded......all fine saws!!

rbtree

I'm gonna keep it, Eric. prolly have Jasha (treeslinger) port it, then see how it measures up to my other 6 saws of that size......


I could look for another used one for ya.......

rick

Very true.
With Aussie hardwoods dust finds it's way through the main filter, but a squirt of MX foam filter spray all over the filter stops that too.

slabmaster

372xp would be my pick in that size class, but a modded 359 would be good too.I have an 038 which is a nice saw but haven't run the ms460, so can't say on that one.I do like my 066s though.