VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019

JayD · 30th March 2008, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by playfordtree

Thanx Shannon,

like most blokes, i like to have a joke at the missus expense. Thankfully she is a "good sort" though and knows i'm full of "piss and wind".
(I'd probably be laying in a gutter somewhere if it wasn't for her.)

Cheers mate.

To true, Here's to all our partner's out there

God bless them

newguy18 · 30th March 2008, 10:36 PM

simon you don't have a video for each saw you listed up yet?chop chop what kind of mechanic are ya?you act like you get paid by the hour or something.

[just stirring.]=)

playfordtree · 3rd April 2008, 05:01 PM

I was suprised how difficult it was to turn a mundane task into a instructional video.
You have to do everything backwards (work to the camera) while trying to talk through every step, while remembering the correct sequence.
Here's a little "Blooper" vid for your entertainment.

WARNING:- conatins coarse langauge, not suitable for minors.
Vid is 2min long and 5mb

Stihl MS190 Blooper file

newguy18 · 3rd April 2008, 08:27 PM

Link doesn't work.

JayD · 3rd April 2008, 09:03 PM

Hi Folk's
When you look at this tool there's really no possible way to misuse it. You simply screw it into the spark plug hole. So you now have the choice,It is now up to you.I now present to you for your consideration.
The Piston Stop.

All The Best and good luck
JayD

Therrin · 3rd April 2008, 09:19 PM

Playford, that was HILLARIOUS!!!

Oh my gosh, and certainly thanks to your missus. I had no idea how much trouble you must have gone through making that. The final copy looked so perfect I'd have never guessed.

She seems pretty calm, you're in there all "bugger this and F that" and she didn't even laugh at all! I'd have been rolling on the floor while trying to watch you put that little screw in with the wire. good stuff !

Oh, then end was good to where ya threw the crappy saw. Pretty funny.

Ekka · 3rd April 2008, 10:37 PM

Hey JayD

I hate those things and gave mine away, I use the other plastic thing.

I buggered a spark plug thread up with one of them long while ago and cost me to have it fixed!

I screwed it into the plug hole of a 44 and give it a twitch, thought she'll be right. Tried to crack the clutch off but was seized like a bugger (palm corrosion I suppose). When I finally cracked it the tool you show kinked in the thread of the plug and buggered the threads. I wound it out it was like recutting the thread. Made the thread egg shaped.

Looked bad, carefully screwed a plug in but when I tightened it ... it just spun, you know, that it's tighter but just a bit more then it goes loose again and so on.

So now, I only use the plastic thingo.

Look at the angle of the thread compared to the angle of the piston hitting it. It's like 45 degrees with leverage, not good, sorry, once bitten twice shy.

JayD · 3rd April 2008, 10:57 PM

OK, That sounds like a good reason not to use this tool,It would seem both tools need to be used correctly.

Hey Eric, Out of curiosity thought, How often did you pull off that clutch? And check for wear?

Ekka · 4th April 2008, 12:23 AM

About every 2 months to replace oil pumps! LOL They corrode out.

JayD · 4th April 2008, 01:21 AM

That sounds like a good routine for maintenance,You would definately think you are keeping on top of it.

We all should remove clean and inspect the clutch at fortnightly intervals.

This is a good point,Simon shows how to pull the saw down eficiently,We have two tools presented for the same job,Maybe it's not the tools fault but improper maintenance schedule?

Stihl recomend the more hostile the environment the more frequently you should do maintenance,Palms are acidic in nature and will ruin a saw real fast, That could be the reason your thread was damaged by this tool as the corosion locked on the clutch to tight?

Here we go, Not only have we been shown how to eficiently pull down a saw,But, We have now learned how two tools can fail in service.

So inconclusion I put forward that correct and regular maintenance is the secret of long liverty in our saws.

JayD

playfordtree · 4th April 2008, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

So inconclusion I put forward that correct and regular maintenance is the secret of long liverty in our saws.

JayD

Well said Jay

Ekka · 11th April 2008, 04:12 AM

Dee's

The more you pull it down and clean it the faster it corrodes!

I've covered this over the years like a broken record.

Why open up a new clean fresh metal face for palm juice? Let the old dry caked on crap be the barrier, as long as that oil pump worm drive spins and the brake band works stay the f-*! out of there.

On weekly strips we were doing an oil pump every 4 to 6 weeks. Now it's at the 2months plus but lately as long as 4 months as I clean them in there even less, just get what I can with small screw driver to clear the worm drive. No Inox, no water, no nothing just compressed air to clear out the scrapings.

Just like trees dont need paint. LOL

newguy18 · 11th April 2008, 05:05 AM

I have to clean my 141spump every couple of weeks,next time i'm gonna drill the oil pump out to get better oil flow.

Therrin · 11th April 2008, 10:34 PM

Carefull with that Bill.

If it flows TOO quickly, the bar oil reservoir might not last to the end of a full tank of gas.

I crank mine up to get as much oil to the bar as possible, but I don't think I'll be modding mine. It'd really suck to be right in the middle of something, run outta oil and start burnin up the bar.

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30th March 2008, 10:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 simon you don't have a video for each saw you listed up yet?chop chop what kind of mechanic are ya?you act like you get paid by the hour or something. [just stirring.]=) __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

3rd April 2008, 05:01 PM	#28 (permalink)
playfordtree Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 340	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 I was suprised how difficult it was to turn a mundane task into a instructional video. You have to do everything backwards (work to the camera) while trying to talk through every step, while remembering the correct sequence. Here's a little "Blooper" vid for your entertainment. WARNING:- conatins coarse langauge, not suitable for minors. Vid is 2min long and 5mb Stihl MS190 Blooper file __________________ I Drink Therefore I am.

3rd April 2008, 08:27 PM	#29 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 Link doesn't work. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

3rd April 2008, 09:19 PM	#31 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,112	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 Playford, that was HILLARIOUS!!! Oh my gosh, and certainly thanks to your missus. I had no idea how much trouble you must have gone through making that. The final copy looked so perfect I'd have never guessed. She seems pretty calm, you're in there all "bugger this and F that" and she didn't even laugh at all! I'd have been rolling on the floor while trying to watch you put that little screw in with the wire. good stuff ! Oh, then end was good to where ya threw the crappy saw. Pretty funny. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

3rd April 2008, 10:37 PM	#32 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 Hey JayD I hate those things and gave mine away, I use the other plastic thing. I buggered a spark plug thread up with one of them long while ago and cost me to have it fixed! I screwed it into the plug hole of a 44 and give it a twitch, thought she'll be right. Tried to crack the clutch off but was seized like a bugger (palm corrosion I suppose). When I finally cracked it the tool you show kinked in the thread of the plug and buggered the threads. I wound it out it was like recutting the thread. Made the thread egg shaped. Looked bad, carefully screwed a plug in but when I tightened it ... it just spun, you know, that it's tighter but just a bit more then it goes loose again and so on. So now, I only use the plastic thingo. Look at the angle of the thread compared to the angle of the piston hitting it. It's like 45 degrees with leverage, not good, sorry, once bitten twice shy. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

3rd April 2008, 10:57 PM	#33 (permalink)
JayD Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 821	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 OK, That sounds like a good reason not to use this tool,It would seem both tools need to be used correctly. Hey Eric, Out of curiosity thought, How often did you pull off that clutch? And check for wear? __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Last edited by JayD : 3rd April 2008 at 11:43 PM.

4th April 2008, 12:23 AM	#34 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 About every 2 months to replace oil pumps! LOL They corrode out. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

4th April 2008, 01:21 AM	#35 (permalink)
JayD Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 821	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 That sounds like a good routine for maintenance,You would definately think you are keeping on top of it. We all should remove clean and inspect the clutch at fortnightly intervals. This is a good point,Simon shows how to pull the saw down eficiently,We have two tools presented for the same job,Maybe it's not the tools fault but improper maintenance schedule? Stihl recomend the more hostile the environment the more frequently you should do maintenance,Palms are acidic in nature and will ruin a saw real fast, That could be the reason your thread was damaged by this tool as the corosion locked on the clutch to tight? Here we go, Not only have we been shown how to eficiently pull down a saw,But, We have now learned how two tools can fail in service. So inconclusion I put forward that correct and regular maintenance is the secret of long liverty in our saws. JayD __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

11th April 2008, 04:12 AM	#37 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 Dee's The more you pull it down and clean it the faster it corrodes! I've covered this over the years like a broken record. Why open up a new clean fresh metal face for palm juice? Let the old dry caked on crap be the barrier, as long as that oil pump worm drive spins and the brake band works stay the f-! out of there. On weekly strips we were doing an oil pump every 4 to 6 weeks. Now it's at the 2months plus but lately as long as 4 months as I clean them in there even less, just get what I can with small screw driver to clear the worm drive. No Inox, no water, no nothing just compressed air to clear out the scrapings. Just like trees dont need paint. LOL __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit.* Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

11th April 2008, 05:05 AM	#38 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 I have to clean my 141spump every couple of weeks,next time i'm gonna drill the oil pump out to get better oil flow. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related Last edited by newguy18 : 11th April 2008 at 12:14 PM. Reason: i'm a drop out

11th April 2008, 10:34 PM	#39 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,112	Re: VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019 Carefull with that Bill. If it flows TOO quickly, the bar oil reservoir might not last to the end of a full tank of gas. I crank mine up to get as much oil to the bar as possible, but I don't think I'll be modding mine. It'd really suck to be right in the middle of something, run outta oil and start burnin up the bar. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703