VIDEO:- How to strip & rebuild Stihl MS190-019

Therrin

Playford, that was HILLARIOUS!!!

Oh my gosh, and certainly thanks to your missus. I had no idea how much trouble you must have gone through making that. The final copy looked so perfect I'd have never guessed.

She seems pretty calm, you're in there all "bugger this and F that" and she didn't even laugh at all! I'd have been rolling on the floor while trying to watch you put that little screw in with the wire. good stuff !



Oh, then end was good to where ya threw the crappy saw. Pretty funny.

Eric Frei

Hey JayD

I hate those things and gave mine away, I use the other plastic thing.

I buggered a spark plug thread up with one of them long while ago and cost me to have it fixed!

I screwed it into the plug hole of a 44 and give it a twitch, thought she'll be right. Tried to crack the clutch off but was seized like a bugger (palm corrosion I suppose). When I finally cracked it the tool you show kinked in the thread of the plug and buggered the threads. I wound it out it was like recutting the thread. Made the thread egg shaped.

Looked bad, carefully screwed a plug in but when I tightened it ... it just spun, you know, that it's tighter but just a bit more then it goes loose again and so on.

So now, I only use the plastic thingo.

Look at the angle of the thread compared to the angle of the piston hitting it. It's like 45 degrees with leverage, not good, sorry, once bitten twice shy.

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Jeff Darby

OK, That sounds like a good reason not to use this tool,It would seem both tools need to be used correctly.

Hey Eric, Out of curiosity thought, How often did you pull off that clutch? And check for wear?

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Eric Frei

About every 2 months to replace oil pumps! LOL They corrode out.

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Jeff Darby

That sounds like a good routine for maintenance,You would definately think you are keeping on top of it.

We all should remove clean and inspect the clutch at fortnightly intervals.

This is a good point,Simon shows how to pull the saw down eficiently,We have two tools presented for the same job,Maybe it's not the tools fault but improper maintenance schedule?

Stihl recomend the more hostile the environment the more frequently you should do maintenance,Palms are acidic in nature and will ruin a saw real fast, That could be the reason your thread was damaged by this tool as the corosion locked on the clutch to tight?

Here we go, Not only have we been shown how to eficiently pull down a saw,But, We have now learned how two tools can fail in service.

So inconclusion I put forward that correct and regular maintenance is the secret of long liverty in our saws.

JayD

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playfordtree

Well said Jay

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Eric Frei

Dee's

The more you pull it down and clean it the faster it corrodes!

I've covered this over the years like a broken record.

Why open up a new clean fresh metal face for palm juice? Let the old dry caked on crap be the barrier, as long as that oil pump worm drive spins and the brake band works stay the f-*! out of there.

On weekly strips we were doing an oil pump every 4 to 6 weeks. Now it's at the 2months plus but lately as long as 4 months as I clean them in there even less, just get what I can with small screw driver to clear the worm drive. No Inox, no water, no nothing just compressed air to clear out the scrapings.

Just like trees dont need paint. LOL

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newguy18

I have to clean my 141spump every couple of weeks,next time i'm gonna drill the oil pump out to get better oil flow.

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Therrin

Carefull with that Bill.

If it flows TOO quickly, the bar oil reservoir might not last to the end of a full tank of gas.

I crank mine up to get as much oil to the bar as possible, but I don't think I'll be modding mine. It'd really suck to be right in the middle of something, run outta oil and start burnin up the bar.

newguy18

Its nothing new to me.The oiler is an epa limited oiler that is non adjustable and it doesn't put out as much oil as i'd like so it time to open it up.

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newguy18

Well i drilled it,it works much better now,instead of going through only 1/8 of a tank of oil per tank of gas it should double that.

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Therrin

Playford,

Have ya started on the next vid yet? Which one's it gonna be?

Garry Brockley

quite simply brilliant there aren't enough smileys to give a true feeling of the genius that some one finally has done a video to show how it should be done, instead of the way i do it which is stumble through lose some bits hit it alot and then take it to the shop (in a bag)
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Rowan the Bruce

NICE ONE MATE! The bloopers clip was true genius.

Therrin

Ok, I'm gonna throw this out there, but you'll all have to forget that I'm the one that said it, because I'm not sure I can stand the ridicule.

I've never cleaned any of the oil pumps on my saws.

But then... when I have the bar and sidecover off I always run them for a couple seconds to see if the oil is spurting out properly, and it always is.

Is it supposed to spurt more than it is? How do you tell if your oil pump is clogged if its still spurting oil? Is there a reason to clean it out if its still oiling? What causes oil pump fouling?

Everytime my saw runs out of gas (or I hear the rev pitch change and I know to change it), I fill the gas tank first, then I douse a bit of gasoline on the oil tank cap to wash the gunk off, then I open up the oil cap, fill it, wipe the threads, and recap it. Sometimes im pretty liberal with dumping gas on the oilcap before I open it. Seems to keep things nice and clean without getting any junk in the oil reservoir.

Actually, I use gasoline to clean the junk under the sideplate, around in the clutch mechanism and such the same way. Gas it up, oil it up, dump some gas down the top side of the bar till it runs out under the side plate, then run it for a second, then douse it again. Keeps stuff clean I guess. It's just what I do.

Is that bad?

JohN Dee

To tell if it is still oiling: Stand near something that you can see visibily when it gets wet. Crank the revs upto max and wave the nose of the bar near the object(s). If you see a little wet line, you know you're oiling.

Yes there is a reason to clean, just general well being of your saws.

Oil pump fouling. Hmm i'm not to sure for everyday use, Ace could probably talk more about that. But in my and your case, it's palms. Corrosion.

Petrol (Gasoline) is fine for cleaning, especially on the jobsite. In the work shed, I prefer compressed air, wd40 and a hard bristel paint brush.

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Garry Brockley

thats how i sort them too, i also create an oily rag that i wipe down the interior with too.

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newguy18

For cleanign,i use the air compressor,out on a job,a spray can of carb cleaner can't be beat as it blasts the crap out of tight areas,plus you can actually clear a clogged oil pump with it if it happens on site.

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Therrin

Yup, at home I use a compressor, carb cleaner, bristle brush and the whole bit, especially when strippin them down and cleaning them out.... I just use the gasoline-therapy when at work sites.

I know about the chain-spitting oil test, but I mean... could it be showing that you're getting oil but you arent getting ENOUGH oil? I dont think I've ever had the pump clog up on me. I think I've had the port clog once or twice, but never the actual pump from the inside.

JohN Dee

Hmmm, not sure then Therrin... How much oil is enough oil though? I just take it, if it's spitting it's all good combined with the chain not going blunt too fast.

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Therrin

ok thats cool. Since you guys were talking about clogged internal parts on the oilers and cleaning them out and such I wasnt sure if they could get clogged and still put out, just not put out enough.

No matter.

jred630bb

thank you Simon for the great video, taking your time so you may help others is a noble thing to do. I salute you sir. Rick

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walkerized

I think your video is great but none of us should be biased. It is like a Ford and a Chevy....some people like Fords and some people like Chevys. I like whatever runs well and is suited for the job.

In my business located in B.C. Canada, we sell whatever the customer needs and believe me, loggers are quite demanding!

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JohN Dee

Stickied.

This is a great instructional video that I highly recommend all tree workers watch. The thread is a great read too with some great information.

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luckydave

That video is worth a look, awesome.
Luckydave.

Rudolf73

great video, thanks for posting

SawTroll

Those saws mainly belong in a dumpster, afaik - so why is this a "sticky"????

Eric Frei

No longer is.

Was stuck in the first place to get noticed but the author hasn't posted for a long time after he had a serious accident with a fire.

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Rob Chace

what???, what happened to Playford?

Eric Frei

Wooosh, internet is like that. Here today gone tomorrow.

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