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Old 16th November 2007, 01:29 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Yeah I hear good things about both of the top handled saws but the stihl...your paying for advertisment that thing is like 220$ more than the Husky or the Jonsered 35cc saw.
husky top handled saw crap
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Old 16th November 2007, 02:58 PM   #52 (permalink)
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We ran nothing but Huskies for 10 years. Excellent saws. Then Husqvarna decided they wanted to sell in Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Last 2 saws were crap from brand new (338 and 357). Also, they didn't want to stand behind their warranty. Either sold them all on Ebay, or traded them at the Stihl dealer. Gotta say, I'm staying with Stihl.
I'm your polar oppisite i traded my stihls for huskies.I had chit luck with every stihl I owned.
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Old 3rd April 2008, 06:51 PM   #53 (permalink)
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It's time to revive this old thread...

Well I'm a Stihl bloke, all of our saws we're packing are Stihl except for 2 of them. The other 2 are Huskies and they do a great job.

Ever since we've had this nice influx of new chainsaw/tree guys coming on and posting pics of their Huskies as well as my Arb II class last year, I've found myself in abit of a rift inbetween the 2, being unable to decide if we wanna repack Stihl or Husky?

So the other day I went to my Husky dealer to grab a bar for my 365. While I was in there, he was telling me about the new Husky patented X-TORQ. These new engines (more new components) X-TORQ, have 20% more tourque - low end power. Now to me this is very interesting as there is countless times where your bucking up a big fat long hardwood barrel where more tourque would get you through the wood and the job so much more quicker.

So I did some googling and could only find an official source from husky.com talking about it.
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X-TORQ Engine Technology

Reduces fuel consumption, emissions while maintaining power

Professional outdoor power equipment users are always looking for greater power in smaller packages, but regulations and concerns about environmental impact have complicated this effort for manufacturers. Husqvarna has faced these challenges by creating X-TORQ engine technology, which reduces emissions and fuel consumption while maintaining performance.
Husqvarna has been a pioneer in the effort to produce quality products while addressing emissions issues, as the company was the first manufacturer to introduce outdoor power equipment products with catalytic converters to the U.S. To create X-TORQ technology, researchers spent years testing and evaluating engine performance utilizing cutting-edge methods and materials. As a result, the demands of exhaust emissions regulations are met while the quality and performance that professionals expect from Husqvarna products is maintained.

X-TORQ engines deliver high torque even at low rpms, offering more useable power on demand, so operators can complete projects effectively and efficiently. More productivity with X-TORQ engines means more money in the pockets of professionals and jobs done faster for the consumer.
In addition, X-TORQ innovations offer up to 20 percent lower fuel consumption and up to 60 percent lower exhaust emission levels, resulting in a better working environment.

A conventional two-stroke engine has standard components like the air filter, which cleans the air brought into the carburetor. The carburetor’s main duty is to blend the fuel and air which is necessary for combustion. The crankcase, which houses the crankshaft, becomes the point of entry for the fuel/air mixture. During the engine cycle, fuel and air is brought upwards through the transfer ports into the cylinder where the mixture is compressed by the piston and then ignited. The exhaust then is removed through the muffler. In this process, some of the unburned fuel can escape into the muffler from the transfer port. This unburned fuel is then released into the atmosphere. This is called scavenging loss and is the source of the harmful emissions from traditional two stroke engines.

With new X-TORQ technology, the primary engine components still exist, so the basics would be familiar to any two-stroke technician. The air/fuel mix enters the crankcase just as the traditional two-stroke engine. However, there is a second stream of unmixed air moving through the piston and entering the transfer ports at the upper end. This unmixed air becomes the first element that enters the cylinder. This clean unmixed air then escapes into the atmosphere while pushing the exhaust out with it. This is usually when the unburned fuel would escape in a traditional two-stroke, but since the clean unmixed air reaches the cylinder first, the clean unmixed air is what escapes. This process reduces scavenging loss, resulting in lower emissions and greater fuel economy.

Unlike four-stroke engines with numerous moving parts and constant valve adjustments, this technology does not require special oils to reduce coking or carbon build-up. X-TORQ’s two-cycle technology innovation offers more torque in the cut, less fuel consumed while doing it, and a cleaner environment in the process.
When faced with challenges, Husqvarna will continue to seek out new technologies and to lead the industry in innovation. X-TORQ technology reflects the most recent results of those efforts.
Source: Husqvarna Outdoor Power Equipment - X-TORQ Engine Technology Latest Innovation from Husqvarna

Unless Stihl comes out with something as equally good or better, I think this latest stuff from Husky may push me over the edge and we will be packing Huskies from now on...
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Old 3rd April 2008, 08:26 PM   #54 (permalink)
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good john come to the dark...i mean orange side.i took that 141 i rebuilt and pulled the muffler apart[which is a lousy design]took the spark and tthat other screen out and drilled 2 holes in the front,that almost doubled my torque.
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Old 3rd April 2008, 09:24 PM   #55 (permalink)
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I'm seeing this thread like a Republican vs. Democrat debate.
Noone's gonna win.


Except that I'm all for Stihl. I've actually never even tried a husky, heard good stuff about em.

Couldn't see the reason to switch over having used 2 stihls that were 20 years old and still ticking. (albeit under moderate use, till I got them)

The only thing I don't care for of Stihl is their headgear and their gloves (crap!) other than that I'm still a Stihl guy.
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Old 3rd April 2008, 09:59 PM   #56 (permalink)
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I'm a STIHL man thru and thru.
I run 200T,260pro,460,and 660's.

Must have got lucky, never had much trouble out of any of them.
I've made a fair amount of cash with this system.

Probably won't change it anytime soon.
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Old 4th April 2008, 01:01 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Im with you Therrin. Never even picked up a Husky. Always used Stihl and love em. ms200t,ms880. Picking up a s/h 460 next wk. Good dealers round here will give 10% plus off retail.
Question for you palm guys as we dont have them here in UK. Whats the diff sliceing through palm trunks to proper wood ?http://www.treeworld.info/images/smilies/gotcha.gif
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Old 4th April 2008, 02:00 PM   #58 (permalink)
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im a stihl man myself. got 3 of them. not many by some of your standards but seems to cover most bases for me.

John, you talk about this new x-torque thingy and mention 'Unless Stihl comes out with something as equally good or better...'

stihl has always been far far superior in terms of torque, hence why i like them a lot more. in my opinion it will level the playing field.

then again, how long until we see stihl 4mix chainsaws?
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Question for you palm guys as we dont have them here in UK. Whats the diff sliceing through palm trunks to proper wood ?
Palms are fibourous compared to real wood. Alot faster to cut through, but with that, the good majority of them are compressed.

I like using full chisel chain on palms to cut throught them as fast as possible and because they're heaps easier to cut then real wood the full chisel chain lasts just as long as what a semi chisel would in real wood.

Oh yeah, the palm also eats away anything metal in your saw so be sure to clean them out VERY frequently.

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John, you talk about this new x-torque thingy and mention 'Unless Stihl comes out with something as equally good or better...'

stihl has always been far far superior in terms of torque, hence why i like them a lot more. in my opinion it will level the playing field.

then again, how long until we see stihl 4mix chainsaws?
I think Stihl may be superior in the torque, but not by "far". I've used a good range of Huskies and Stihls of both the same CC range. The only saws that the lack of tourque is noticable, is the 334xpt and the 338xpt. But I'm not a fulltime user of all these Husky saws.

If Stihl was superior, then why are there so many blokes out their making just as much money if not more from having a full arsenal of Huskies, like Ace Master? Surely if Stihl was superior by far they'd be packing Stihls?

I think in my personal opinion, that the X-TORQ may just actually put Husky out in front. I'm in a rift as to deciding which I wanna buy for future reference. I wanna hear from blokes that have actively used Husky saws and Stihl saws on a profession daily basis (Hey Ace, you guys ever use a Stihl?).

Seen the pole pruner 4 mixes by Stihl? The ht101 and the ht135 I think they are? They seem alright, but I didn't get to use them on a daily or professional basis.
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