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Old 31st March 2007, 05:03 PM   #31
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Yeah, when the crane takes half a tree off ya hands I'd have some big azzed saw to get thru the trunk quick too.

That's an interesting one. Stihl 88 or Husky 120? Both heavy as hell but as far as grunt goes I dunno. I have used both, I favour the Stihl but I could be biased?

Who's owned both of these and can have a fair opinion?
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Other than the filter cogging up quick on the 3120 its a good saw,the only 088 i used wasnt a real good thing but im sure there ok.
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Old 31st March 2007, 09:49 PM   #33
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088 or MS as it now is in my opinion evan though it was a stihl was far better.....just feels better balanced,after using a 120 for years that seemed to have a real problem with burning off the chain breaks and never running quit right,have memories of that thing dangling of my harness with a creeping chain chuggging away on tick over and daring not to turn it off as it seem to be the most awkward and tedious task of getting it going again stropped to a stem on spikes....... id rather have a 66 or 395 and double cut every thing,I find the pure power on the big saws is either all or nothing quite hard to use efficiently evan on the ground.
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I just got my dolmar 3410 top handle back from Ed Heard a few weeks ago. He ported it and "messed with it" It is now the best top handle i've ever run by far! I've never run a ported ms200t though. I was thinking of trying one again (had probs. with my 1st 200t.) Ed Heard can nearly double the h.p. on a 200t. He worked miracles with my Dolmar 3410 & 5100!
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I had premature breakdowns with Husky, a switch, with Stihl, crack in handle, and Sachs Dolmar, broken engine.

So I use Stihl and Husky.
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I ain't turning this into the I hate stihl thread i had at as but I don't like stihl and love my huskies.period no changing for me.I will say this though my local stihl dealer is a very nice guy and has made some decent offers but he gets the same answer from me everytime. " John I would buy it if it were a husky".
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The TreeCo man is joking right?

Dolmar making interesting Saws!

If chainsaws were reincarnated as a higher form of life - Dolmar saws would be reincarnated as Jonsered at best

Dolmar = Pretty bad saw

Just the kind of quote I'd expect from someone who has been banned!
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We dont have many Dolmars here but a guy I knew once swore by them, he had a large one for cutting down stumps before grinding and loved it, heaps of grunt he reckoned.

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Well I know everyone uses Stihl so it cant be a bad saw and I hardly ever hear anything about Husky so they cant be to bad either. I tend to love Jonsered's though. But of course it's all a personal preference.
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Not that many Jonsered for sale here, parts might be a problem.
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Something that differs the both companies though. Husqvarna, big company out after a load of money went to the exchange market 2006. After 2006 it has bought the Japanese chainsawproducer Zenoah. Other chainsaw ownde by husqvarna are McCulloch, Flymo,Partner and Poulan.
Jonsered was bought by Electrolux = Husqvarna in 1979!!
Do you Google husqvarna, the first things to come up are products used in household!
Stihl, a family owned company is out to get, also a heap of money I guess, but also to leave a good product. Their developmentdepartment is huge. Husqvarna should have stayed with their sowingmachines!
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Old 12th September 2007, 01:18 AM   #42
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Has anyone used the new Husky 338xtp they say it has more power and Im looking into getting one.
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husky for my top handles, i can get four for the price of three sthil. love the 85 for limbing and felling, 66 is pretty damn fine. heck i think everyone thinks they have made the right choice with their saws for what ever reasons. as long as the can do the job, safely and quickly i'm a happy biz owner
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tried husky top handled saw (355?) hated it after an hour threw it out of the tree and went back to the 020 that was a few years ago but from what i have seen they haven t changed the basic design flaws. that said, husky medium range is imo better that stihl but if its big wood i d pick stihl. thats my 2 penneth
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I had a Husky 335XP and I'd take a 200T over it any day.
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Yeah I hear good things about both of the top handled saws but the stihl...your paying for advertisment that thing is like 220$ more than the Husky or the Jonsered 35cc saw.
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$220 more for a good reason too!
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i'm a stihl man for 20 years but has anyone noticed that spares have gone thru the roof?? just for piston and rings is about $AUD260 for my old 044. dont even ask about the cylinder. cost of repairing a saw is ludicrous and i think they just want you to buy a new one.
200t here is oz is pushing $1200ish, ms360 around $1350ishAUD.
BUT i did buy last year a ms390 due to being around $400 cheaper than ms360. same hp, more weight though. DONT DO IT. piece of crap. no torque. spend the extra and stay with full pro saws.
while we're on it, my local dealer said to double up on oil 25:1 even with genuine stihl? anyone else doing so?? cheers
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I run around 32:1 Stihl oil

Ya gotta get ya costly stuff from USA mate, it is a rip off here for sure.

Stihl sets the prices for retail, dealers haven't got a lot of room they reckon.

I know the following saws severely suck and warn everyone from buying them.

MS290, MS310, MS390

PIECES OF PLASTIC CRAP! The MS390 with 20" bar could not keep pulling that chain thru a palm head, IF you stopped for any reason it would mean pulling it out of the cut, revving it and re-entering the cut.

I tried 3/8 chain, 0.325 chain, and no matter how you look at it ... it sucks!

I use 44's for palms but they are stuffed in a year from corrosion.

Engines prolly fine though, I need new chasis, you need new motor ....hmmmm.
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Old 16th November 2007, 04:14 PM   #50
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We ran nothing but Huskies for 10 years. Excellent saws. Then Husqvarna decided they wanted to sell in Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Last 2 saws were crap from brand new (338 and 357). Also, they didn't want to stand behind their warranty. Either sold them all on Ebay, or traded them at the Stihl dealer. Gotta say, I'm staying with Stihl.
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Yeah I hear good things about both of the top handled saws but the stihl...your paying for advertisment that thing is like 220$ more than the Husky or the Jonsered 35cc saw.
husky top handled saw crap
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We ran nothing but Huskies for 10 years. Excellent saws. Then Husqvarna decided they wanted to sell in Home Depot, Lowes, etc. Last 2 saws were crap from brand new (338 and 357). Also, they didn't want to stand behind their warranty. Either sold them all on Ebay, or traded them at the Stihl dealer. Gotta say, I'm staying with Stihl.
I'm your polar oppisite i traded my stihls for huskies.I had chit luck with every stihl I owned.
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It's time to revive this old thread...

Well I'm a Stihl bloke, all of our saws we're packing are Stihl except for 2 of them. The other 2 are Huskies and they do a great job.

Ever since we've had this nice influx of new chainsaw/tree guys coming on and posting pics of their Huskies as well as my Arb II class last year, I've found myself in abit of a rift inbetween the 2, being unable to decide if we wanna repack Stihl or Husky?

So the other day I went to my Husky dealer to grab a bar for my 365. While I was in there, he was telling me about the new Husky patented X-TORQ. These new engines (more new components) X-TORQ, have 20% more tourque - low end power. Now to me this is very interesting as there is countless times where your bucking up a big fat long hardwood barrel where more tourque would get you through the wood and the job so much more quicker.

So I did some googling and could only find an official source from husky.com talking about it.
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X-TORQ Engine Technology

Reduces fuel consumption, emissions while maintaining power

Professional outdoor power equipment users are always looking for greater power in smaller packages, but regulations and concerns about environmental impact have complicated this effort for manufacturers. Husqvarna has faced these challenges by creating X-TORQ engine technology, which reduces emissions and fuel consumption while maintaining performance.
Husqvarna has been a pioneer in the effort to produce quality products while addressing emissions issues, as the company was the first manufacturer to introduce outdoor power equipment products with catalytic converters to the U.S. To create X-TORQ technology, researchers spent years testing and evaluating engine performance utilizing cutting-edge methods and materials. As a result, the demands of exhaust emissions regulations are met while the quality and performance that professionals expect from Husqvarna products is maintained.

X-TORQ engines deliver high torque even at low rpms, offering more useable power on demand, so operators can complete projects effectively and efficiently. More productivity with X-TORQ engines means more money in the pockets of professionals and jobs done faster for the consumer.
In addition, X-TORQ innovations offer up to 20 percent lower fuel consumption and up to 60 percent lower exhaust emission levels, resulting in a better working environment.

A conventional two-stroke engine has standard components like the air filter, which cleans the air brought into the carburetor. The carburetor’s main duty is to blend the fuel and air which is necessary for combustion. The crankcase, which houses the crankshaft, becomes the point of entry for the fuel/air mixture. During the engine cycle, fuel and air is brought upwards through the transfer ports into the cylinder where the mixture is compressed by the piston and then ignited. The exhaust then is removed through the muffler. In this process, some of the unburned fuel can escape into the muffler from the transfer port. This unburned fuel is then released into the atmosphere. This is called scavenging loss and is the source of the harmful emissions from traditional two stroke engines.

With new X-TORQ technology, the primary engine components still exist, so the basics would be familiar to any two-stroke technician. The air/fuel mix enters the crankcase just as the traditional two-stroke engine. However, there is a second stream of unmixed air moving through the piston and entering the transfer ports at the upper end. This unmixed air becomes the first element that enters the cylinder. This clean unmixed air then escapes into the atmosphere while pushing the exhaust out with it. This is usually when the unburned fuel would escape in a traditional two-stroke, but since the clean unmixed air reaches the cylinder first, the clean unmixed air is what escapes. This process reduces scavenging loss, resulting in lower emissions and greater fuel economy.

Unlike four-stroke engines with numerous moving parts and constant valve adjustments, this technology does not require special oils to reduce coking or carbon build-up. X-TORQ’s two-cycle technology innovation offers more torque in the cut, less fuel consumed while doing it, and a cleaner environment in the process.
When faced with challenges, Husqvarna will continue to seek out new technologies and to lead the industry in innovation. X-TORQ technology reflects the most recent results of those efforts.
Source: Husqvarna Outdoor Power Equipment - X-TORQ Engine Technology Latest Innovation from Husqvarna

Unless Stihl comes out with something as equally good or better, I think this latest stuff from Husky may push me over the edge and we will be packing Huskies from now on...
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good john come to the dark...i mean orange side.i took that 141 i rebuilt and pulled the muffler apart[which is a lousy design]took the spark and tthat other screen out and drilled 2 holes in the front,that almost doubled my torque.
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I'm seeing this thread like a Republican vs. Democrat debate.
Noone's gonna win.


Except that I'm all for Stihl. I've actually never even tried a husky, heard good stuff about em.

Couldn't see the reason to switch over having used 2 stihls that were 20 years old and still ticking. (albeit under moderate use, till I got them)

The only thing I don't care for of Stihl is their headgear and their gloves (crap!) other than that I'm still a Stihl guy.
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I'm a STIHL man thru and thru.
I run 200T,260pro,460,and 660's.

Must have got lucky, never had much trouble out of any of them.
I've made a fair amount of cash with this system.

Probably won't change it anytime soon.
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Im with you Therrin. Never even picked up a Husky. Always used Stihl and love em. ms200t,ms880. Picking up a s/h 460 next wk. Good dealers round here will give 10% plus off retail.
Question for you palm guys as we dont have them here in UK. Whats the diff sliceing through palm trunks to proper wood ?http://www.treeworld.info/images/smilies/gotcha.gif
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im a stihl man myself. got 3 of them. not many by some of your standards but seems to cover most bases for me.

John, you talk about this new x-torque thingy and mention 'Unless Stihl comes out with something as equally good or better...'

stihl has always been far far superior in terms of torque, hence why i like them a lot more. in my opinion it will level the playing field.

then again, how long until we see stihl 4mix chainsaws?
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Question for you palm guys as we dont have them here in UK. Whats the diff sliceing through palm trunks to proper wood ?
Palms are fibourous compared to real wood. Alot faster to cut through, but with that, the good majority of them are compressed.

I like using full chisel chain on palms to cut throught them as fast as possible and because they're heaps easier to cut then real wood the full chisel chain lasts just as long as what a semi chisel would in real wood.

Oh yeah, the palm also eats away anything metal in your saw so be sure to clean them out VERY frequently.

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John, you talk about this new x-torque thingy and mention 'Unless Stihl comes out with something as equally good or better...'

stihl has always been far far superior in terms of torque, hence why i like them a lot more. in my opinion it will level the playing field.

then again, how long until we see stihl 4mix chainsaws?
I think Stihl may be superior in the torque, but not by "far". I've used a good range of Huskies and Stihls of both the same CC range. The only saws that the lack of tourque is noticable, is the 334xpt and the 338xpt. But I'm not a fulltime user of all these Husky saws.

If Stihl was superior, then why are there so many blokes out their making just as much money if not more from having a full arsenal of Huskies, like Ace Master? Surely if Stihl was superior by far they'd be packing Stihls?

I think in my personal opinion, that the X-TORQ may just actually put Husky out in front. I'm in a rift as to deciding which I wanna buy for future reference. I wanna hear from blokes that have actively used Husky saws and Stihl saws on a profession daily basis (Hey Ace, you guys ever use a Stihl?).

Seen the pole pruner 4 mixes by Stihl? The ht101 and the ht135 I think they are? They seem alright, but I didn't get to use them on a daily or professional basis.
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no comparison.. stihl will give you the time honored tradition that they are so popular for.. not going to knock a husky, but try fast-cutting locust with a 335.. 200T all the way.. i sent an old 018c back handle from a cherry about 40 ft and it never shut off.. that sold me on a stihl..
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