Stihl V.S. Husqavarna

Ekka · 24th March 2007, 12:08 AM

Where abouts are you Matty?

Apparently there's about 4 different carbs Stihl use and the USA gets the tighest ones on emmisions.

AN ole carb from pre 2000 is best. But it could be a local issue for you.

matty f · 24th March 2007, 10:35 AM

the uk eric..... ive been told by a dealer are latest spec carbs are from a new factory in china that uses crap alloys for production....or so he says..would make sense to me,the prices are sky high and they have there market pretty much sown up... so some bright spark probably has decided to max profits up by compromising quality...uhmm enough of my stihl rants ...ill be getting sued next!

Ekka · 24th March 2007, 01:58 PM

I replaced a carby a while back, got a new one from USA and the saw ran sweet ever since.

That old carby I stripped and rebuilt 5 times, dealer had it twice I think.

The saw had a flat spot just as you hit the throttle and it would die, then be a bugger to start.

Anyway, I sent it over to ole Al Smith just so he could see what was going on out of curiosity. Ends up it had a hairline crack thru it that would expand when hot and run lean. That totally supports your experience as it would have been the alloy casting fault.

My brand new 200T had it's own unusual carby problem. The throttle linkage would get caught on the carby and lock onto high revs! This saw was like this new. As I bought it from USA I just got some long nose pliers and rebent the throttle linkage ... but I had to strip the carby off to do it. So something is definately changing.

I prefer my old 200T @ 2001/2002 to the new 2006 one. It somehow just feels better, tougher. The new one broke a starter cord like within a month, the old one had only done that after a year. There's something changed for sure.

The old one is bogged up with Selley's knead it epoxy compound to stop oil leaking out etc from cutting palms.

I just cant put it out of it's misery coz it goes so hard and smooth, but it does have a replacement USA carby on it 2005/2006.

But I must say, after a husky 335 I'll take the 200T with it's problems any day.

matty f · 24th March 2007, 05:21 PM

well i got a 357xpg to replae my ms360 that seemed to last forever...and i have to say i thought i would regret it but whooa what a saw.....makes me think the new 338 could be a worthy cheaper investment, but i should get atleast another 6 months out my 200t thats running kinda ok.

allmarktree · 30th March 2007, 05:44 PM

I prefer husky 3120 for my top handle (pruning only saw)

Ekka · 30th March 2007, 10:03 PM

Yeah, when the crane takes half a tree off ya hands I'd have some big azzed saw to get thru the trunk quick too.

That's an interesting one. Stihl 88 or Husky 120? Both heavy as hell but as far as grunt goes I dunno. I have used both, I favour the Stihl but I could be biased?

Who's owned both of these and can have a fair opinion?

a_lopa · 30th March 2007, 10:06 PM

Other than the filter cogging up quick on the 3120 its a good saw,the only 088 i used wasnt a real good thing but im sure there ok.

matty f · 31st March 2007, 02:49 AM

088 or MS as it now is in my opinion evan though it was a stihl was far better.....just feels better balanced,after using a 120 for years that seemed to have a real problem with burning off the chain breaks and never running quit right,have memories of that thing dangling of my harness with a creeping chain chuggging away on tick over and daring not to turn it off as it seem to be the most awkward and tedious task of getting it going again stropped to a stem on spikes....... id rather have a 66 or 395 and double cut every thing,I find the pure power on the big saws is either all or nothing quite hard to use efficiently evan on the ground.

Mike Poor · 2nd April 2007, 09:08 PM

I just got my dolmar 3410 top handle back from Ed Heard a few weeks ago. He ported it and "messed with it" It is now the best top handle i've ever run by far! I've never run a ported ms200t though. I was thinking of trying one again (had probs. with my 1st 200t.) Ed Heard can nearly double the h.p. on a 200t. He worked miracles with my Dolmar 3410 & 5100!

mdvaden · 6th April 2007, 08:55 AM

I had premature breakdowns with Husky, a switch, with Stihl, crack in handle, and Sachs Dolmar, broken engine.

So I use Stihl and Husky.

newguy18 · 11th July 2007, 08:29 PM

I ain't turning this into the I hate stihl thread i had at as but I don't like stihl and love my huskies.period no changing for me.I will say this though my local stihl dealer is a very nice guy and has made some decent offers but he gets the same answer from me everytime. " John I would buy it if it were a husky".

Estabon · 13th July 2007, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iorek

The TreeCo man is joking right?

Dolmar making interesting Saws!

If chainsaws were reincarnated as a higher form of life - Dolmar saws would be reincarnated as Jonsered at best

Dolmar = Pretty bad saw

Just the kind of quote I'd expect from someone who has been banned!

Ekka · 13th July 2007, 08:38 PM

We dont have many Dolmars here but a guy I knew once swore by them, he had a large one for cutting down stumps before grinding and loved it, heaps of grunt he reckoned.

Banned people, they still lurk here you know.

OsAGe85 · 25th July 2007, 10:49 AM

Well I know everyone uses Stihl so it cant be a bad saw and I hardly ever hear anything about Husky so they cant be to bad either. I tend to love Jonsered's though. But of course it's all a personal preference.

Ekka · 25th July 2007, 01:15 PM

Not that many Jonsered for sale here, parts might be a problem.

Houthakker · 29th July 2007, 08:27 AM

Something that differs the both companies though. Husqvarna, big company out after a load of money went to the exchange market 2006. After 2006 it has bought the Japanese chainsawproducer Zenoah. Other chainsaw ownde by husqvarna are McCulloch, Flymo,Partner and Poulan.
Jonsered was bought by Electrolux = Husqvarna in 1979!!
Do you Google husqvarna, the first things to come up are products used in household!
Stihl, a family owned company is out to get, also a heap of money I guess, but also to leave a good product. Their developmentdepartment is huge. Husqvarna should have stayed with their sowingmachines!

OsAGe85 · 11th September 2007, 06:18 AM

Has anyone used the new Husky 338xtp they say it has more power and Im looking into getting one.

24th March 2007, 12:08 AM	#26 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Where abouts are you Matty? Apparently there's about 4 different carbs Stihl use and the USA gets the tighest ones on emmisions. AN ole carb from pre 2000 is best. But it could be a local issue for you. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

24th March 2007, 01:58 PM	#28 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	I replaced a carby a while back, got a new one from USA and the saw ran sweet ever since. That old carby I stripped and rebuilt 5 times, dealer had it twice I think. The saw had a flat spot just as you hit the throttle and it would die, then be a bugger to start. Anyway, I sent it over to ole Al Smith just so he could see what was going on out of curiosity. Ends up it had a hairline crack thru it that would expand when hot and run lean. That totally supports your experience as it would have been the alloy casting fault. My brand new 200T had it's own unusual carby problem. The throttle linkage would get caught on the carby and lock onto high revs! This saw was like this new. As I bought it from USA I just got some long nose pliers and rebent the throttle linkage ... but I had to strip the carby off to do it. So something is definately changing. I prefer my old 200T @ 2001/2002 to the new 2006 one. It somehow just feels better, tougher. The new one broke a starter cord like within a month, the old one had only done that after a year. There's something changed for sure. The old one is bogged up with Selley's knead it epoxy compound to stop oil leaking out etc from cutting palms. I just cant put it out of it's misery coz it goes so hard and smooth, but it does have a replacement USA carby on it 2005/2006. But I must say, after a husky 335 I'll take the 200T with it's problems any day. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th March 2007, 10:03 PM	#31 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Yeah, when the crane takes half a tree off ya hands I'd have some big azzed saw to get thru the trunk quick too. That's an interesting one. Stihl 88 or Husky 120? Both heavy as hell but as far as grunt goes I dunno. I have used both, I favour the Stihl but I could be biased? Who's owned both of these and can have a fair opinion? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th March 2007, 10:06 PM	#32 (permalink)
a_lopa Astronaut Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 837	Other than the filter cogging up quick on the 3120 its a good saw,the only 088 i used wasnt a real good thing but im sure there ok. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

6th April 2007, 08:55 AM	#35 (permalink)
mdvaden Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 578	I had premature breakdowns with Husky, a switch, with Stihl, crack in handle, and Sachs Dolmar, broken engine. So I use Stihl and Husky. __________________ ____________________________________ Grove of Redwood TITANS Oregon BIGOOT trap

24th March 2007, 10:35 AM	#27 (permalink)
matty f Gettin' motoring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 13	the uk eric..... ive been told by a dealer are latest spec carbs are from a new factory in china that uses crap alloys for production....or so he says..would make sense to me,the prices are sky high and they have there market pretty much sown up... so some bright spark probably has decided to max profits up by compromising quality...uhmm enough of my stihl rants ...ill be getting sued next!

24th March 2007, 05:21 PM	#29 (permalink)
matty f Gettin' motoring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 13	well i got a 357xpg to replae my ms360 that seemed to last forever...and i have to say i thought i would regret it but whooa what a saw.....makes me think the new 338 could be a worthy cheaper investment, but i should get atleast another 6 months out my 200t thats running kinda ok.

30th March 2007, 05:44 PM	#30 (permalink)
allmarktree Fly'n Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 132	I prefer husky 3120 for my top handle (pruning only saw)

31st March 2007, 02:49 AM	#33 (permalink)
matty f Gettin' motoring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 13	088 or MS as it now is in my opinion evan though it was a stihl was far better.....just feels better balanced,after using a 120 for years that seemed to have a real problem with burning off the chain breaks and never running quit right,have memories of that thing dangling of my harness with a creeping chain chuggging away on tick over and daring not to turn it off as it seem to be the most awkward and tedious task of getting it going again stropped to a stem on spikes....... id rather have a 66 or 395 and double cut every thing,I find the pure power on the big saws is either all or nothing quite hard to use efficiently evan on the ground.

11th July 2007, 08:29 PM	#36 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,188	I ain't turning this into the I hate stihl thread i had at as but I don't like stihl and love my huskies.period no changing for me.I will say this though my local stihl dealer is a very nice guy and has made some decent offers but he gets the same answer from me everytime. " John I would buy it if it were a husky". __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

13th July 2007, 08:38 PM	#38 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	We dont have many Dolmars here but a guy I knew once swore by them, he had a large one for cutting down stumps before grinding and loved it, heaps of grunt he reckoned. Banned people, they still lurk here you know. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

25th July 2007, 10:49 AM	#39 (permalink)
OsAGe85 Cruisin' Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Littlerock Arkansas US Posts: 66	My favorite Well I know everyone uses Stihl so it cant be a bad saw and I hardly ever hear anything about Husky so they cant be to bad either. I tend to love Jonsered's though. But of course it's all a personal preference.

25th July 2007, 01:15 PM	#40 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Not that many Jonsered for sale here, parts might be a problem. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

29th July 2007, 08:27 AM	#41 (permalink)
Houthakker Gettin' motoring Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 34	Something that differs the both companies though. Husqvarna, big company out after a load of money went to the exchange market 2006. After 2006 it has bought the Japanese chainsawproducer Zenoah. Other chainsaw ownde by husqvarna are McCulloch, Flymo,Partner and Poulan. Jonsered was bought by Electrolux = Husqvarna in 1979!! Do you Google husqvarna, the first things to come up are products used in household! Stihl, a family owned company is out to get, also a heap of money I guess, but also to leave a good product. Their developmentdepartment is huge. Husqvarna should have stayed with their sowingmachines!

11th September 2007, 06:18 AM	#42 (permalink)
OsAGe85 Cruisin' Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Littlerock Arkansas US Posts: 66	Re: Stihl V.S. Husqavarna Has anyone used the new Husky 338xtp they say it has more power and Im looking into getting one. __________________ Gotta love the smell 2 stroke and wood chips. Be smart, be safe.