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Old 29th July 2010, 10:29 AM   #181
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That really depend on a lot of factors. I have had 4 084's, 2 166, 2 3120's.

The prices range from FREE runner with issues to racesaws $3000.

Tell me more in a PM on your 084 with pics if you like and I can pretty much give you the PHO price if you like.

I have sold 2 084 and 2 166 already this year.

it will be delivered on monday,then IŽll send
pics.... PHO??
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Old 29th July 2010, 11:35 AM   #182
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it will be delivered on monday,then IŽll send
pics.... PHO??
PHO = Power Head Only
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Old 29th July 2010, 07:31 PM   #183
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PHO: Saudi chainsaw... no bar (tha-dump!)
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Old 29th July 2010, 07:35 PM   #184
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ok thanks..... if IŽll sell the saw,then it must be a complet saw,not a parts saw
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Old 29th July 2010, 11:24 PM   #185
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Geez, I cannot understand why you have blown up that poor 361 of yours. Is your 361 named Kenny? None of my 361s has a hint of scoring, and I have had the one now for over 4 years with maximum use and abuse. Seems odd.
No sir... that is MY name however. Perhaps its a related thing. (bha-dumm!)
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Old 30th July 2010, 05:35 AM   #186
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I have a 361 powerhead with a scored P&S

I had it for about 3 years and the P&S lean seized on me, so I got the Bailey's big bore kit for it. It worked very well untill about 8 months later or so it scored the P&S again. Same exact mix I was running in all my other saws on the same day and didn't have any trouble with them. Just the 361. I'd been very carefull since the first time to check its tuning when changing elevation, and to let it warm up, and sit at idle and cool down a little after using and while in the middle of regular use. For some reason I can't seem to keep it from scoring the P&S.

I had even just recently replaced the plastic covers and chainbrake handle with new parts. They had been a little scratched and a tad banged up, but they're all nice and purdy at the moment. I had even gone through the whole saw, disassembled and cleaned the whole thing.
Before you put a NEW AFM p+c on the 361 did you pressure test the crankcase or trouble shoot in anyway to find out why you scored the OEM topend?
No way would I just have thrown another AFM topend without knowing why you scored the first one. Live and learn I guess.
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Old 30th July 2010, 02:24 PM   #187
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It was thought to be from having been running it up around 4000' elev and tuned for there, then bringing it down to around 500' elev and running it while it was still tuned at the 4000' settings. Which apparently would make it run lean.

Alas, as it is it could still be pressure checked. Its in roughly the same condition as it was the first time it scored, it just looks better =P
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Old 31st July 2010, 06:27 AM   #188
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Its in roughly the same condition as it was the first time it scored, it just looks better =P

Did you post pics anywhere of the oem and afm tops scored.
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Old 31st July 2010, 02:02 PM   #189
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Yes, I had put up several pics, and a thread about it when the OEM stuff went. And I'm pretty sure I took pics of the replacement parts before the went on the saw. I haven't had the AFM parts off the saw yet though, so no, no pics of them in whole.
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Old 16th August 2010, 06:27 AM   #190
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Hello all,

I am having problems with my ms 390 and hoping to get some help.

I bought this saw over two years ago. I recently had the compression valve replaced after it broke and came down in the motor. After a second time (compression valve breaking) I decided I did not want to deal with this problem again, so instead of replacing the compression valve i found a bolt to make a plug where the valve would be. In the process of getting the compression valve out of the motor I took the muffler off and fished it out.

It seemed to run just fine after I did this, but the second time I tried to run it after this process I cannot get it to ignite. I am pretty sure it is not a spark plug issue. Would anyone know if this would cause any problems with the saw??
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Old 17th August 2010, 08:33 AM   #191
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I would suggest that you start a 390 thread, as no one is going to look here to answer your query. Or you can add onto the 390 that I posted to about the 290/310/390 muffler mods.
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Old 17th August 2010, 08:35 AM   #192
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No sir... that is MY name however. Perhaps its a related thing. (bha-dumm!)
They killed Kenny!? The bastards!
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Old 17th August 2010, 12:20 PM   #193
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They killed Kenny!? The bastards!
What... Kenny? They killed him again? What did I miss...?

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Old 17th August 2010, 06:24 PM   #194
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What... Kenny? They killed him again? What did I miss...?

Poor Kenny overheated and was scored, twice...
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Old 19th August 2010, 03:39 AM   #195
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I would suggest that you start a 390 thread, as no one is going to look here to answer your query. Or you can add onto the 390 that I posted to about the 290/310/390 muffler mods.
Right, this thread should not be contaminated with MS390 talk!
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Old 19th August 2010, 12:34 PM   #196
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Right, this thread should not be contaminated with MS390 talk!


I still like running my juiced up MS310 for some reason though. Then I start up a 361 and I forget about the 310 for a while.
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Old 25th August 2010, 03:42 AM   #197
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I'm still finding MS361 listed for sale here. Its listed for as much as $1349 (US$1200)...
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Old 25th August 2010, 07:06 PM   #198
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Well, the 361s are no longer being made here in the states. The global supply of 361s were all made in Virgina until last year. Either they are dumping saws that they can no longer sell here, or they are being made someplace else now, like Brazil. For that price, they can sure make a fat profit! They sold for a tad more than $600 here. I have not seen a used 361 on CL here for a few months now.
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Well, the 361s are no longer being made here in the states. The global supply of 361s were all made in Virgina until last year. Either they are dumping saws that they can no longer sell here, or they are being made someplace else now, like Brazil. For that price, they can sure make a fat profit! They sold for a tad more than $600 here. I have not seen a used 361 on CL here for a few months now.
Hmmmmmm - the MS361 was made in Germany all the time, for all markets but the NA and OZ ones, and probably still is made there. The latest Canadian sold ones also were made in Germany, as far as I have been told.

The US sold ones had a bit less power than the others.
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Old 29th August 2010, 06:19 AM   #200
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Hmmmmmm - the MS361 was made in Germany all the time, for all markets but the NA and OZ ones, and probably still is made there. The latest Canadian sold ones also were made in Germany, as far as I have been told.

The US sold ones had a bit less power than the others.


I was misinformed by some of my Stihl insiders then. Makes sence. The US models have a different cylinder and muffler, but other than that they are pretty much the same saw with a tad less power (they can be easilly modified to get more power than the EU model though). I thought that the EU 361 was being phased out as well? Maybe not... Stihl is currently changing out their entire line of saws in the US now to comply with the new EPA laws, and there is much confusion as to what models will be next and when they will appear.
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I was misinformed by some of my Stihl insiders then. Makes sence. The US models have a different cylinder and muffler, but other than that they are pretty much the same saw with a tad less power (they can be easilly modified to get more power than the EU model though). I thought that the EU 361 was being phased out as well? Maybe not... Stihl is currently changing out their entire line of saws in the US now to comply with the new EPA laws, and there is much confusion as to what models will be next and when they will appear.

In Germany they list the 361 alongside the 362, and the 260 alongside the 261 - if varies from market to market in Europe.
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Old 3rd September 2010, 10:05 AM   #202
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Interesting.....I wish somebody in the world still had enough integrity to build something that's well engineered, and just keep building it, selling replacement parts through the years. I'm tired of having to always change to meet the market. What a bunch of BS, and now, I'm told the cab of my F-250 will have to come off if the heads need to be replaced. This was a great thing to say after telling me that I'd better pray it's not my injectors due to the price. Go figure. I'll walk. Thanks Ford, at least your not owned by the Govt.
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Old 26th September 2010, 06:32 PM   #203
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Hi, first post here:

I was wondering if there is any way to visually id the high output oiler (#1128 640 3250).

I have an oiler that I took out of an old 460 with a full wrap handle, but I'm not 100% sure it's the high output version. It has the numbers 1128 647 04(and then another # that has been slightly worn off, could be a 6, 8, or 0). Below that it has a 1.3 >MG<.

I just put it in a 361 that I got used, but haven't run the new oiler yet. I suppose I'll be able to tell because I'll run through a tank of oil for every half or 2/3 tank of fuel? Just waiting for my spark arrestor to come in before I mix some fuel...

Thanks for any help you can give.
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Hi, first post here:

I was wondering if there is any way to visually id the high output oiler (#1128 640 3250).

I have an oiler that I took out of an old 460 with a full wrap handle, but I'm not 100% sure it's the high output version. It has the numbers 1128 647 04(and then another # that has been slightly worn off, could be a 6, 8, or 0). Below that it has a 1.3 >MG<.

I just put it in a 361 that I got used, but haven't run the new oiler yet. I suppose I'll be able to tell because I'll run through a tank of oil for every half or 2/3 tank of fuel? Just waiting for my spark arrestor to come in before I mix some fuel...

Thanks for any help you can give.
Do you really need the spark arrestor?

Some do - others don't.......
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Old 3rd October 2010, 02:59 AM   #205
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Basically, yeah.
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Old 7th October 2010, 11:42 AM   #206
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Newbie here
I have a 361, just did the muffler mods
Can someone walk me through how to set my carb
What's the " LA" do?
H"?
L"
A good explaintion would be appreciated
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Old 7th October 2010, 12:33 PM   #207
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Simple basic how to's

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Old 7th October 2010, 09:53 PM   #208
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Newbie here
I have a 361, just did the muffler mods
Can someone walk me through how to set my carb
What's the " LA" do?
H"?
L"
A good explaintion would be appreciated


Read all that but anyone have diagrams of the carb .I like to know how stuff works
What's "la" stand for
The saw won't even start for some reason
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Old 7th November 2010, 09:01 AM   #209
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I got a very low used 361 2004 model a couple of months ago and i live by the sea. The saw was running badly lean at max richness. There was a red limmiter tab in the h high speed screw this with the help of a decent thikness of wire with a little bend at the end i maneged to wriggle/pull out. this is key to any thing you change on your saw. For that exact reason i de get it out any way dont know iff the last 361s were the same or not. Now you should have a fully adjustable high speed screw. Then just pop a few grill s in the right side of muffler or a big whole with the huskvarna part and some spark arresting screen windthrown has explained this earlier on in the thread once its opened wind the h screw out quite a bit i de say it were more than twice wat the limmiter cap would of alowed. the saw should 4stroke flat out whilst not cutting. how much is up to you you should be chopping up wood and just keep that little scrdw driver in your pocket till you re happy with performance and sound. l speed screw is to make sure the saw pops and spits a bit as it were this also should not be too lean. Iff you richen the l screw [wind out] you want to ajust the la this will need winding in a little this will make tick over rev a little higher. windthrown has talked about this a nuber of times read through the lean damege thread and you ll learn allot. all i know i learned from here.
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Old 5th December 2010, 01:28 PM   #210
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Yes, a 24" bar is way too heavy for a proper balance with that light powerhead!
I dunno. With a laminated bar, or the new STIHL lightweight weldeds, the balance is just fine. In fact, with my Oregon Pro Lite, it handles about the same as with my 20" ES bar. Unless I am in a tight space, I just use the 24" Pro Lite. You can't lever on it as much as with a solid bar, but otherwise it works fine. Just don't get it pinched.

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