Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher

spartek · 23rd January 2009, 01:07 PM

I removed all my aluminum chain catchers on my 660's an 440's and replaced them all with the roller type that goes between the dawgs. My 36'' chains have came nowhere near my arm when it derails now, and also Im not replacing clutch covers . Nothin funner than a 36'' RSF chain shavin the hair of ur forearm when the chain pops at full throttle

. How does everyone else like these roller catchers if you're using them?

Therrin · 23rd January 2009, 03:36 PM

....why does your chain pop off so much?

Garry Brockley · 24th January 2009, 12:45 AM

is the chain stretching alot?

Eric Frei · 24th January 2009, 05:56 AM

Yeah the roller ones are the way to go ... but I rarely get a derailment.

You tend to get lots of derailments when cutting through multi-leadered crap in one hit with a loose chain.

spartek · 24th January 2009, 11:37 AM

I' ve been cutting quite a feww big oak trunks up that are loaded with vines and crap ,they get pulled in and derail fairly often. I also tightened the chain thinking it was too loose.But even with the chain "too tight" , theres enough bar length to still allow the chain to be pulled off track. I only have this problem with my 36'' bars, and it has happened about three times this year.

fatdog · 29th January 2009, 02:01 PM

What type bar are you running. Sounds like your rails have opened up some. I run a Oregon ultra-lite bar and haven't
had any problem with it coming off. I have been cutting alot
of trees covered with all kinds of vines.

spartek · 31st January 2009, 10:16 AM

I run Stihl's bar on my big saws (.050 114 links)

Eric Frei · 1st February 2009, 12:38 PM

Us Aussies run 0.063" guage mainly, that's std Stihl.

Most Huskys run 0.058" but 0.050" for a saw that size with so many links???????? I just dont get it why you yanks do that.

Done it · 1st February 2009, 09:29 PM

They love to cut fast.

We used to use 050 cutting Iron Bark stepping stones, [2 inch rings] smaller cut, more money & faster.

Not for everyday treework, here anyway.

Eric Frei · 1st February 2009, 09:33 PM

crikey mate, my pole saw runs 0.050" gauge!

Bruce Hopf · 3rd February 2009, 12:11 PM

What does the Face of the Bar Cover, that meets the Bar, look like. I had that problem with my 024,

and I had to resurface the Face of the Clutch Cover. It had a high groove worn into the Face of the Clutch Cover, from the Guide Bar,

and once I leveled the Groove, I had no trouble like that again.

Bruce.

spartek · 3rd February 2009, 12:49 PM

The bars are new , most saws bought from Stihl dealers around Ohio at least, come with .050 gauge. They NEVER stock .063, if they did I probably would stay with that. So , availability is very important to me. I have never used a .063 gauge on a 36'' or longer bar. Are they better? , and are they a bit slower? I use huskies when I'm in the air and cutting horizontally, the .058 seems to stay more "level" in the bars groove IMO.

Bruce Hopf · 3rd February 2009, 01:03 PM

But still, what does your Face of the Bar Cover look like. Is there a High Ridge around the Mounting Bolts, and where the Slot of the Guide Bar for the Mounting Bolts fit into the Guide Bar. If there is a High Spot in that area, it will allow your Guide Bar to come Loose, and throw your Chain. I had that happen, a few times in less than an Hour, until I discovered that the Face Plate had a High Spot in the area I just described to you. Once I resurfaced the Face of the Clutch Cover, I didn't have that trouble again. Bruce.

newguy18 · 3rd February 2009, 01:16 PM

I've never seen a bar that big with a 0.50 guage,around here they're all 0.63.
My husky 51[climbing saw]is 0.50 guage,.325 pitch.

23rd January 2009, 01:07 PM	#1
spartek Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ohio, USA Posts: 151	Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher I removed all my aluminum chain catchers on my 660's an 440's and replaced them all with the roller type that goes between the dawgs. My 36'' chains have came nowhere near my arm when it derails now, and also Im not replacing clutch covers . Nothin funner than a 36'' RSF chain shavin the hair of ur forearm when the chain pops at full throttle. How does everyone else like these roller catchers if you're using them?

23rd January 2009, 03:36 PM	#2
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher ....why does your chain pop off so much?

24th January 2009, 12:45 AM	#3
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher is the chain stretching alot? __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

24th January 2009, 05:56 AM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher Yeah the roller ones are the way to go ... but I rarely get a derailment. You tend to get lots of derailments when cutting through multi-leadered crap in one hit with a loose chain. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

24th January 2009, 11:37 AM	#5
spartek Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ohio, USA Posts: 151	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher I' ve been cutting quite a feww big oak trunks up that are loaded with vines and crap ,they get pulled in and derail fairly often. I also tightened the chain thinking it was too loose.But even with the chain "too tight" , theres enough bar length to still allow the chain to be pulled off track. I only have this problem with my 36'' bars, and it has happened about three times this year.

29th January 2009, 02:01 PM	#6
fatdog Sappling Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: auburn,ga Posts: 37	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher What type bar are you running. Sounds like your rails have opened up some. I run a Oregon ultra-lite bar and haven't had any problem with it coming off. I have been cutting alot of trees covered with all kinds of vines.

31st January 2009, 10:16 AM	#7
spartek Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ohio, USA Posts: 151	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher I run Stihl's bar on my big saws (.050 114 links)

1st February 2009, 12:38 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher Us Aussies run 0.063" guage mainly, that's std Stihl. Most Huskys run 0.058" but 0.050" for a saw that size with so many links???????? I just dont get it why you yanks do that. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

1st February 2009, 09:29 PM	#9
Done it Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia. Posts: 780	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher They love to cut fast. We used to use 050 cutting Iron Bark stepping stones, [2 inch rings] smaller cut, more money & faster. Not for everyday treework, here anyway.

1st February 2009, 09:33 PM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher crikey mate, my pole saw runs 0.050" gauge! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd February 2009, 12:11 PM	#11
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,167	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher What does the Face of the Bar Cover, that meets the Bar, look like. I had that problem with my 024, and I had to resurface the Face of the Clutch Cover. It had a high groove worn into the Face of the Clutch Cover, from the Guide Bar, and once I leveled the Groove, I had no trouble like that again. Bruce. __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

3rd February 2009, 12:49 PM	#12
spartek Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: ohio, USA Posts: 151	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher The bars are new , most saws bought from Stihl dealers around Ohio at least, come with .050 gauge. They NEVER stock .063, if they did I probably would stay with that. So , availability is very important to me. I have never used a .063 gauge on a 36'' or longer bar. Are they better? , and are they a bit slower? I use huskies when I'm in the air and cutting horizontally, the .058 seems to stay more "level" in the bars groove IMO.

3rd February 2009, 01:03 PM	#13
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,167	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher But still, what does your Face of the Bar Cover look like. Is there a High Ridge around the Mounting Bolts, and where the Slot of the Guide Bar for the Mounting Bolts fit into the Guide Bar. If there is a High Spot in that area, it will allow your Guide Bar to come Loose, and throw your Chain. I had that happen, a few times in less than an Hour, until I discovered that the Face Plate had a High Spot in the area I just described to you. Once I resurfaced the Face of the Clutch Cover, I didn't have that trouble again. Bruce. __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

3rd February 2009, 01:16 PM	#14
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: Stihl Double Dawg Chain catcher I've never seen a bar that big with a 0.50 guage,around here they're all 0.63. My husky 51[climbing saw]is 0.50 guage,.325 pitch. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

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