Stihl 020 Chain Type

Gunslinger

Can someone tell from this photo what type/size Stihl chain this is? I'm looking to order a backup chain.

windthrown

That is picco safety chain. From the Stihl bar number that is a 14" lightweight bar with a 9 tooth nose sprocket, 0.050" gauge, with 3/8" Picco (low profile) pitch. That chain has 50 links in it.

Recommended Stihl chain loop for that bar is: 63PMC3-50, which is Stihl Picco Micro Confort 3 (PMC3) chain. You can also get Stihl Micro Mini Comfort which is also green safety chain. You can also get that size in Carlton which is non-safety. I do not have the numbers handy for that, but Carlton is what I run on my Stihl 025 with picco bars. Make sure that you do not get the 0.043 gauge chain that also has the Picco label and similar numbers.

(WLL)

someone get windthrown a beer

newguy18

I would but i drank all mine yesterday.

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old schooler

(WLL)

are you following me

windthrown

Oh man, no beer for me today. I went on this river boat cruise put on my Widmir Bros. on Thursday night. They had 4 beers on tap, three bars, one on each deck, all you could drink. Unlimited, and freeeeeeee beer. I was in heaven. I Drank 20 or 30 beers I think. Way too much of the stuff. I am told I met one of the Widmir brothers, but I cannot remember that. I do remember the hookers on the boat handing out little gold business cards. I was not sure what the card were until my brother's date looked at them and laughed, and said, "They're call girls". With no women to chase on the boat, I decided to drink my weight in beer. I seemed to have plowed through quite a lot by the time the boat docked again.

newguy18

no,i had to contribute something,i was hoping to help,but windthrown beat us both to it.

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Gunslinger

Thanks for the quick response.

How did you figure this out? I searched the Stihl website but gave up. Is there some type of chart that would contain all of this information?

windthrown

I have the new and some older copies of the bar charts for Stihl on my desk. You can usually Google the Stihl part numbers. A Google of your bar number has a few entries, and then this one with is one one I used:

http://www.stihllibrary.com/pdfs/SawChainSelection.pdf

The 020 is not listed any more, but I used to own one myself.

Eric Frei

I have never really thought of what I buy, I just go to the Stihl shop and buy it. Now they're real good to me, I get roll rate but they make the chains up into loops for free for me.

I did have some 55 link loops I had to shorten to 50 link loops though, they were new spare chains for the ms250 I used to have, yeah I used to run 3/8 picco ona 16" bar on an ms250 ... the 0.325 drum/sprocket swaps off for a 3/8 and you get a 3/8 nose bar 0.050" guage, talk about clean fast cuts, ideal for ground work.

But the palms eventually got that saw and I couldn't be bothered replacing it a just went use the ms440

Dang I gonna miss my ms440's when the one I got blows, I really dont like those 441's.

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Therrin

I also noticed that that's a lightweight bar you've got there. If you let them heat up too much, the polymer insert will start to splay outwards and will hang the bar up when trying to enter the kerf.

To remedy this, just take a dremel or similar tool and grind the plastic edges back down smooth on both faces of the bar. I think my chain just wasnt sharp enough or I didnt have that size sharpener with me that day or some such. The bar got a bit hot and that stuff just kinda warps out a little.

All in all the lightweight bars are awesome though. They set up the balance really nicely. I love mine, totally worth the extra $$$

Willard Holmen

You Stihl 020, MS200 owners may want to try 1/4" chain. I run it on my MS200 with a quarter tip carving bar sometimes while doing pruning and some removals and I like it better then the little 3/8". Stihl still makes the 1/4" .050 chain, the RM and now the new RMC. But they don't produce a sprocket nose 1/4" bar,only a solid nose carving bar.
I just found out Oregon still makes the 1/4" .050 25AP chain and the 25 Double Guard 1/4" sprocket nose bar in 12" and 14" .050 with the small A041 mount, a little different then the 020/MS200 mount but will still fit. The slots are both 8.2 mm on both bar mounts ,just a little different in tail and hole design. Everthing will bolt up with little mods. I will try this setup on my MS200 right away. I like the cutting action and filing of the 1/4" chain, its cutters are shaped just like the fullsize 3/8 or .404 only smaller of course.
Of interest the A041 mount is the # for the Husqvarna 338XPT.

Garry Brockley

WLL i get what you meant!!!!

For those who dont know how to read the bar not prop it up.

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spartek

Ok ,I'm gonna ask a dumb question. What exactly does PICCO mean when refering to a chain and/or a bar

Willard Holmen

Picco is Stihls brand name for their extended pitch 3/8" chain for the smallest saws. The smallest chain is the "mini" with a .043 gauge drive link. The 020 or MS200 really rips with this mini chain, but only when the cutters are full size new. Cutting becomes erratic when cutters are filed back especially when the laminated bar has some extra play in the rails.

spartek

So, its basically Stihl's version of the low profile chain , comparable to Oregons 91VX. Is that correct ???

MrDiesel

Hey Ekka,

Saw your post about the 441's. I know ill get bagged out for changing the subject of this post but can i ask what you dont like about them. Im about to buy one

Thanks mate

Willard Holmen

Yes from the side profile they look like twins. I never tried the Oregon 91VX or handled it, but from the info I have it has a chamfer chisel grind so it may be more chisel then a semi-chisel from what the Stihl Picco is. I'll have to try some now that I'm curious.

I'll really confuse you. Back in the 1980s Stihl and Oregon produced another low profile 3/8" chain. Stihl's 33 TS [topic super] and Oregon's 76-77 LG. This chain size was in between the Picco and full size 33RS or 72 LG 3/8". About the size of a .325 cutter. I wish they never quit making them, very smooth fast cutting chisel chains.