Starting your chainsaw

SawTroll · 5th February 2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windthrown

....

By drop starting, I am not taking about dropping the saw completely and pulling on the rope in a wild motion. Drop starting here is left hand on the starting handle, right hand on the top handle. Pull up on the starter with the left hand, while pushing the saw down with the right hand. I believe that this position is actually safer than starting the saw on the ground. Reason being that on the ground you are off-balance, and leaning forward. The ground starting poisition is akward and your foot is slung in the handle. Drop starting the saw allows you to be centered, balanced, and in better control of the saw at all times. It is also far easier on your muscles and wrist to drop start a saw than it is to start one on the ground. ...

I totally agree with the quoted text!

Eric Frei · 5th February 2009, 10:17 PM

Why not swap hands, that's the natural way to use a saw (right on rear handle and left hand on top handle)?

SawTroll · 5th February 2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Why not swap hands, that's the natural way to use a saw (right on rear handle and left hand on top handle)?

Two reasons, main reason is that my right hand is more severly hit by arthritis than the left one.

Second reason is that it feels more natural - feel like the saws are engineered to to be started just that way.........

Eric Frei · 5th February 2009, 10:27 PM

I'll try it tomorrow, I think you guys might be onto something, you see, with your left on the top handle and your right on the starter it's more likeyl the saw is pulled into/toward your body.

An vice versa .... so I'll test this tomorrow

SawTroll · 6th February 2009, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

I'll try it tomorrow, I think you guys might be onto something, you see, with your left on the top handle and your right on the starter it's more likely the saw is pulled into/toward your body.

An vice versa .... so I'll test this tomorrow

I believe that is true - never really thought of that before.....

Bruce Hopf · 6th February 2009, 11:42 AM

I just tried Drop Starting my 024 here for a couple of pulls, holding it in my Right Hand, and pulling the Starter Rope with my Left Hand.
With the side of the Wrap Around Handle against my Right Thigh, with the Bar Pointed away from my Leg, and pulling the Starter Rope.
This way is a lot easier for me, than getting down on on knee, and holding the Chain Saw down with the other Knee, like I always have.

. Thanks guys for all the help, and Advice, and to Ken

, for starting this Thread.

. Bruce.

windthrown · 6th February 2009, 02:29 PM

Yep. Used to be that they taught people to always drop start saws that way. They originally designed saws to be started that way as well. Back in the day... Then some OSHA geek decided to come up with the most rediculous way possible to start a saw on the ground, and that is in all the safety books now. Everyone is at the mercy of the dumbest possible homeowner.

Even my ex, who is 5'-4" tall and weighs in at about 120 pounds can drop starts saws. She can start the 210 and even the 290 that way. She had a really hard time starting the saws on the ground, which is what they trained her to do at one of those Chainsaws for Women classes. She is also a leftie, which makes ground starting even harder. For her drop starting uses her dominant side. I actually have a bad left arm, but it is easier on my left arm to drop start a saw than start it on the ground with my right. Starting an 044 on the ground w/o a decomp is really murder on your wrist. With a bad pull I think it could break your wrist that way.

newguy18 · 6th February 2009, 02:37 PM

couldn't you fit a replacement cylinder with a decomp valve,not hard,only take about an hour to swap cylinders.

I've always dropstarted my saws,osha can

.

windthrown · 6th February 2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

couldn't you fit a replacement cylinder with a decomp valve,not hard,only take about an hour to swap cylinders.

I've always dropstarted my saws,osha can

.

I could, but a jug would be about $100. I could also drill and tap a decomp button into the jug it has. It is not really needed though. I am used to the 290, and the 044 is about the same when drop starting. So is the 361 w/o the decomp, and I do not use the decomp on them when cold starting, becasue of their tendancy to flood. I want to put an Elasto Start handle on the 044 though. The one it has is broken at the base, and it tends to hang down after starting. I hear the Elasto Start is pretty good on larger saws.

OSHA can

, indeed! Good one!

SawTroll · 6th February 2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SawTroll

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Second reason is that it feels more natural - feel like the saws are engineered to to be started just that way.........

Quote:

Originally Posted by windthrown

.... They originally designed saws to be started that way as well. Back in the day... .

... looks like you confirmed my statement, I didn't know that......

windthrown · 7th February 2009, 08:48 AM

Yah, you would never know that today though. Just do a drop start chainsaw search on Google and you will find 1,000 'Never drop start a chainsaw' posts on the web. Its amazing. The lawyers and OSHA and Universities and Joe Homeowner killing himself with his new chainsaw have changed things. Old manuals and texts show how to properly 'drop start' a chainsaw. Which is the method that like, 99.9% of all loggers and tree butchers that I know use. Unless the safety boss is around. Or an OSHA rep. Its a paradigm that is here to stay I am afraid. And why they seem to be so against using TH saws; you almost HAVE to drop start those. Ergononics aside, there is no foot-hold to start them on the ground with. And they are stuck with making people start saws on the ground, regardless. *sigh*

TrevMcRev · 8th February 2009, 05:16 PM

Who bothers with the decomp button???

My Stihl 440 460 & 660 all have it but i never ever use it...

I like the punch of starting it properly. Just give it a good rip, its really not that hard.

I find if you "miss" the starting/firing opportunity with decomp depressed it is really hard to then get it to fire without dropstarting with wide open throttle.

My form of drop starting may be a bit different too. I have the rear handle sort of betwwen my knees/lower thighs, left hand on front handlebar, right hand on strater & give it a rip. Always with chianbrake on.

I were shown that way by a forestry trainer that was outsourced to take the advanced chansaw use & felling component of our adv cert arb course.

The only exception is a flooded saw needing starting with throttle open, then its right hand on the rear handle with throttle depressed, left hand on starter & rip it. sometimes with chainbrake off if the saw is a pig to start & needs to be able to pick up full revs quickly to avoid stalling.

Eric Frei · 10th February 2009, 08:37 PM

I need that decomp up the tree, cant get a decent pull up there! (of the starter cord that is)

Bruce Hopf · 11th February 2009, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windthrown

Yah, you would never know that today though. Just do a drop start chainsaw search on Google and you will find 1,000 'Never drop start a chainsaw' posts on the web. Its amazing. The lawyers and OSHA and Universities and Joe Homeowner killing himself with his new chainsaw have changed things. Old manuals and texts show how to properly 'drop start' a chainsaw. Which is the method that like, 99.9% of all loggers and tree butchers that I know use. Unless the safety boss is around. Or an OSHA rep. Its a paradigm that is here to stay I am afraid. And why they seem to be so against using TH saws; you almost HAVE to drop start those. Ergonomics aside, there is no foot-hold to start them on the ground with. And they are stuck with making people start saws on the ground, regardless. *sigh*

I did the Google, but I have to somewhat Disagree with what they are trying to Say. Forcing the Chain Saw in a Downward Motion with your Left hand, while pulling the Starter Rope up I can see where the possible Danger is.
I do not like the Idea of putting the Foot through the Handel, bending over that Chain saw, I really feel that this could be one of the Most Very Dangerous Positions to be in while Starting the Chain Saw.
All it will take is to get Bumped by Something, like the Family Dog, running around with a Stick in his Mouth

, or Someone, trying to be a

Wise A$$, could make you lose your Balance

, just as the Chain Saw Starts Up.
Especially when the Chain Saw is an Older Model, with out a Chain Brake on it, and you go Stumbling, you could land on the Chain Saw, and that could be where you meet your Maker.
I have tried keeping my Right Arm Straight and Ridged, while holding the Chain Saw, with the Bar, and Chain pointed away from my Body, against my Left Leg and doing all the Work with my Left Hand, to start the Chain Saw. So far starting the Chain Saw I find to be the Easiest Way, and some what safe to do, while Starting the Chain Saw. Thanks. Bruce.

Q.Q. · 13th February 2009, 10:05 PM

Have you tried locking the handle between your legs Bruce?.

This is my most used way to start the saw,upright and easy.

Bruce Hopf · 14th February 2009, 01:17 AM

No. I'll give it a try. I may have to do something Different with my 044. It has a Fair Bit more Compression than the 034, and deffenatly the 024

.
I may need some Further Instructions to start the Chain Saw the way you were telling me about.

Bruce.

Q.Q. · 14th February 2009, 01:27 AM

If you are right handed,hold the top handle with your left hand,lock your right leg over the back handle-right behind your knee,and press it into your left leg,pull start with your right hand.
Peice of cake,you won't look back mate.

Bruce Hopf · 14th February 2009, 01:37 AM

Q.Q.
Since I have my Chain Saws in the Basement of my House, about
30' away from the Computer, I gave your Way a try with the 044, and had No Troubles.

.
I tried to pull the Starter Rope, the way I described with the 024, and 034, I almost pulled my Left Wrist out of it's Socket.

.
From now on, I'll be starting my Chain Saws the way you Described.

. It is a lot easier on the Body too.

.
Thanks again for the Tip.

Bruce.

Q.Q. · 14th February 2009, 01:49 AM

At least you don't sleep with that thing under your pillow?.

Or do you?.

Thought it would convert you.

Bruce Hopf · 14th February 2009, 08:51 AM

Well If I did sleep with it under my Pillow, My Wife to be, would kick me out of the Bed Room, and I'd be moving out to the Dog House, and he would take my side of the Bed.

.
I have started the 044 a quite a few Times Today, and this way is by Far the Easiest. Thanks for the Tip. Bruce.

newguy18 · 14th February 2009, 03:20 PM

I just put my left hand on the wrap handle and tug with the right hand,ground or aloft.

Q.Q. · 14th February 2009, 03:48 PM

Drop starting

newguy18 · 14th February 2009, 03:51 PM

Its the most comfortable way for me to do it,i tried your way,just too hard on me,i have a hard time even bending over,i have a bad back so i do whats easiest.

Q.Q. · 14th February 2009, 03:57 PM

Yep understandalbe, what works for you the best

Bruce Hopf · 14th February 2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

Its the most comfortable way for me to do it,i tried your way,just too hard on me,i have a hard time even bending over,i have a bad back so i do whats easiest.

Wait till you get a Back like Mine. My Back is F.U.B.A.R.ED, from the Word Go. I've tried all kinds of ways to Start my Chain Saws. Drop Starting was, and is the Hardest on my Back.
I was Starting my 044 today, like Q.Q. suggested. I had to give the Starter Rope a 6 or 8 Pulls to get it to Start, because the Chain Saw sat for over a couple of Months, and was hard to Start. After giving a few Pulls, I was OK.
Drop Starting after about two or three Pulls of the Starter Rope, my Back would say time to Quit.
I agree with you though, you have to do what is Easiest for you, but that may not be the Best for you either. Bruce.

newguy18 · 15th February 2009, 12:51 AM

After 3 bad disks,and a bad right knee,if it means less work and easier on me i'm all for it,I actually tried the way Q.Q was saying,but its just not as easy or as natural for me.When i drop start though,i make sure that the bar is well away from me,and that even if i fell,i wouldn't land on the saw.

Apocalypsse · 18th February 2009, 10:26 PM

I got taught to put the handle between my thighs and start it from there, but when you are up in the tower you can only really dropstart it there.

Martin · 22nd February 2009, 03:10 PM

falling I run a 660 and topping a 200. I always start a saw with the chain brake on, a quick tap on the throttle and it throttles down I take the brake off right away and your good to go. I've never had a problem. Here on BC's west coast all fallers have to be certified now and in the written standards we get certified by chain brake on when your starting up the saw or while moving around in the woods while the saw is running is a must. Cheers

Eric Frei · 22nd February 2009, 03:15 PM

Martin, what method of starting is the rules for that fallers ticket?

Here it's between the legs or on the ground foot in rear handle.

Martin · 22nd February 2009, 03:32 PM

I don't remember if there is an actual rule as to the method of starting your saw besides having the chain brake on, I'll take a look sometime but of all the guys I know out here, we all drop start our saws. But its a controlled drop just getting the weight of the was to help.

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5th February 2009, 10:17 PM	#62
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Starting your chainsaw Why not swap hands, that's the natural way to use a saw (right on rear handle and left hand on top handle)? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

5th February 2009, 10:27 PM	#64
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Starting your chainsaw I'll try it tomorrow, I think you guys might be onto something, you see, with your left on the top handle and your right on the starter it's more likeyl the saw is pulled into/toward your body. An vice versa .... so I'll test this tomorrow __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

6th February 2009, 11:42 AM	#66
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,176	Re: Starting your chainsaw I just tried Drop Starting my 024 here for a couple of pulls, holding it in my Right Hand, and pulling the Starter Rope with my Left Hand. With the side of the Wrap Around Handle against my Right Thigh, with the Bar Pointed away from my Leg, and pulling the Starter Rope. This way is a lot easier for me, than getting down on on knee, and holding the Chain Saw down with the other Knee, like I always have. . Thanks guys for all the help, and Advice, and to Ken , for starting this Thread. . Bruce. __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

6th February 2009, 02:29 PM	#67
windthrown Former Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In the Great Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,211	Re: Starting your chainsaw Yep. Used to be that they taught people to always drop start saws that way. They originally designed saws to be started that way as well. Back in the day... Then some OSHA geek decided to come up with the most rediculous way possible to start a saw on the ground, and that is in all the safety books now. Everyone is at the mercy of the dumbest possible homeowner. Even my ex, who is 5'-4" tall and weighs in at about 120 pounds can drop starts saws. She can start the 210 and even the 290 that way. She had a really hard time starting the saws on the ground, which is what they trained her to do at one of those Chainsaws for Women classes. She is also a leftie, which makes ground starting even harder. For her drop starting uses her dominant side. I actually have a bad left arm, but it is easier on my left arm to drop start a saw than start it on the ground with my right. Starting an 044 on the ground w/o a decomp is really murder on your wrist. With a bad pull I think it could break your wrist that way.

6th February 2009, 02:37 PM	#68
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Starting your chainsaw couldn't you fit a replacement cylinder with a decomp valve,not hard,only take about an hour to swap cylinders.I've always dropstarted my saws,osha can . __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

7th February 2009, 08:48 AM	#71
windthrown Former Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In the Great Pacific Northwest Posts: 1,211	Re: Starting your chainsaw Yah, you would never know that today though. Just do a drop start chainsaw search on Google and you will find 1,000 'Never drop start a chainsaw' posts on the web. Its amazing. The lawyers and OSHA and Universities and Joe Homeowner killing himself with his new chainsaw have changed things. Old manuals and texts show how to properly 'drop start' a chainsaw. Which is the method that like, 99.9% of all loggers and tree butchers that I know use. Unless the safety boss is around. Or an OSHA rep. Its a paradigm that is here to stay I am afraid. And why they seem to be so against using TH saws; you almost HAVE to drop start those. Ergononics aside, there is no foot-hold to start them on the ground with. And they are stuck with making people start saws on the ground, regardless. sigh

8th February 2009, 05:16 PM	#72
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Starting your chainsaw Who bothers with the decomp button??? My Stihl 440 460 & 660 all have it but i never ever use it... I like the punch of starting it properly. Just give it a good rip, its really not that hard. I find if you "miss" the starting/firing opportunity with decomp depressed it is really hard to then get it to fire without dropstarting with wide open throttle. My form of drop starting may be a bit different too. I have the rear handle sort of betwwen my knees/lower thighs, left hand on front handlebar, right hand on strater & give it a rip. Always with chianbrake on. I were shown that way by a forestry trainer that was outsourced to take the advanced chansaw use & felling component of our adv cert arb course. The only exception is a flooded saw needing starting with throttle open, then its right hand on the rear handle with throttle depressed, left hand on starter & rip it. sometimes with chainbrake off if the saw is a pig to start & needs to be able to pick up full revs quickly to avoid stalling.

10th February 2009, 08:37 PM	#73
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Starting your chainsaw I need that decomp up the tree, cant get a decent pull up there! (of the starter cord that is) __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

13th February 2009, 10:05 PM	#75
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Starting your chainsaw Have you tried locking the handle between your legs Bruce?. This is my most used way to start the saw,upright and easy. __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT

14th February 2009, 01:17 AM	#76
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,176	Re: Starting your chainsaw No. I'll give it a try. I may have to do something Different with my 044. It has a Fair Bit more Compression than the 034, and deffenatly the 024 . I may need some Further Instructions to start the Chain Saw the way you were telling me about. Bruce. __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

14th February 2009, 01:27 AM	#77
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Starting your chainsaw If you are right handed,hold the top handle with your left hand,lock your right leg over the back handle-right behind your knee,and press it into your left leg,pull start with your right hand. Peice of cake,you won't look back mate. __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT

14th February 2009, 01:37 AM	#78
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,176	Re: Starting your chainsaw Q.Q. Since I have my Chain Saws in the Basement of my House, about 30' away from the Computer, I gave your Way a try with the 044, and had No Troubles. . I tried to pull the Starter Rope, the way I described with the 024, and 034, I almost pulled my Left Wrist out of it's Socket. . From now on, I'll be starting my Chain Saws the way you Described.. It is a lot easier on the Body too. . Thanks again for the Tip. Bruce. __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

14th February 2009, 01:49 AM	#79
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Starting your chainsaw At least you don't sleep with that thing under your pillow?. Or do you?. Thought it would convert you. __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT

14th February 2009, 08:51 AM	#80
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,176	Re: Starting your chainsaw Well If I did sleep with it under my Pillow, My Wife to be, would kick me out of the Bed Room, and I'd be moving out to the Dog House, and he would take my side of the Bed.. I have started the 044 a quite a few Times Today, and this way is by Far the Easiest. Thanks for the Tip. Bruce. __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

14th February 2009, 03:20 PM	#81
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Starting your chainsaw I just put my left hand on the wrap handle and tug with the right hand,ground or aloft. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

14th February 2009, 03:48 PM	#82
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Starting your chainsaw Drop starting __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT

14th February 2009, 03:51 PM	#83
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Starting your chainsaw Its the most comfortable way for me to do it,i tried your way,just too hard on me,i have a hard time even bending over,i have a bad back so i do whats easiest. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

14th February 2009, 03:57 PM	#84
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Starting your chainsaw Yep understandalbe, what works for you the best __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT

15th February 2009, 12:51 AM	#86
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Starting your chainsaw After 3 bad disks,and a bad right knee,if it means less work and easier on me i'm all for it,I actually tried the way Q.Q was saying,but its just not as easy or as natural for me.When i drop start though,i make sure that the bar is well away from me,and that even if i fell,i wouldn't land on the saw. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

18th February 2009, 10:26 PM	#87
Apocalypsse Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,154	Re: Starting your chainsaw I got taught to put the handle between my thighs and start it from there, but when you are up in the tower you can only really dropstart it there.

22nd February 2009, 03:10 PM	#88
Martin Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Duncan, BC, Canada Posts: 56	Re: Starting your chainsaw falling I run a 660 and topping a 200. I always start a saw with the chain brake on, a quick tap on the throttle and it throttles down I take the brake off right away and your good to go. I've never had a problem. Here on BC's west coast all fallers have to be certified now and in the written standards we get certified by chain brake on when your starting up the saw or while moving around in the woods while the saw is running is a must. Cheers

22nd February 2009, 03:15 PM	#89
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Starting your chainsaw Martin, what method of starting is the rules for that fallers ticket? Here it's between the legs or on the ground foot in rear handle. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

22nd February 2009, 03:32 PM	#90
Martin Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Duncan, BC, Canada Posts: 56	Re: Starting your chainsaw I don't remember if there is an actual rule as to the method of starting your saw besides having the chain brake on, I'll take a look sometime but of all the guys I know out here, we all drop start our saws. But its a controlled drop just getting the weight of the was to help.

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