new 660 coming?

Martin · 23rd January 2011, 03:50 PM

I've heard from my local saw shop that Stihl are reworking the 660 and 460. Apparently the decision is based on emmissions but the whole saw is supposed to get changed, anyone out there hear any news like that?

Eric Frei · 23rd January 2011, 04:45 PM

If it's anything like the other saws all that happens is they get 1/2kg heavier for the same power.

Buy up the old saws before you cannot get them.

CAT1693TA · 23rd January 2011, 11:05 PM

I have not heard anything on the 660,but the new 461 will be available here in the states april/may. 251,271,291 are already available here. The 291 seems to be a step forward,pretty nice saw,not sure on the other 2. 461 is to be a 441 w/76-80cc,and will most likely be a little heavier.i would bet stihl will be careful not to mess w/the 660 too much,til the have to.

Cut4fun · 24th January 2011, 01:15 AM

Yep.

Just like the MS201T is now over 9lbs coming out this year. Better get your 200T's while you can.

wrebelmachine · 24th January 2011, 02:06 AM

I heard it too. Heavy!

Martin · 24th January 2011, 02:35 AM

well other than the mounts taking a little more of the vibration I agree it would be foolish to mess with the saw, I guess we'll all have to wait and see, if I hear any more I'll be sure to pass it on

Drouin Tree Service · 24th January 2011, 06:05 AM

A year or so away i have heard and its not good news,Ill be buying a few to put away.

stihlman441 · 24th January 2011, 08:55 AM

Keep us posted,i have been thinking about getting a snelerized ( brad ported )one sent over maybe i should get onto that before its to late.

jamming · 24th January 2011, 10:17 AM

Glad i just picked up a MS 460 !

066logger · 25th January 2011, 08:28 AM

man i sure hope they dont jack up the 660 its my favorite saw.

Eric Frei · 25th January 2011, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cut4fun

Yep.

Just like the MS201T is now over 9lbs coming out this year. Better get your 200T's while you can.

Anyone got any data yet, I have been searching but not found any.

If the replacement is going to be heavier I'll need to get another 200T, what backward move if it's heavier, more tennis elbow!

Cut4fun · 25th January 2011, 09:43 PM

Comparison

Pay attention to the PHO weight change!

Eric Frei · 25th January 2011, 10:20 PM

Bit more HP but the weight, Stihl are really going the wrong way here.

I'll need to buy another then.

Martin · 26th January 2011, 12:08 AM

gee, just over 1 lb for only .2 hp that doesn't make sense for a climbing saw

Eric Frei · 26th January 2011, 06:58 AM

It's almost the same weight as the Shindaiwa 357 which did give me my tennis elbow 10 years ago.

The power different is negligible, 10% and likely gain that by taking the screen out of the muffler anyway.

Backward move IMHO.

Woods Ported · 30th January 2011, 02:14 PM

Maybe they just want to make saws heavier to make more twiggy people tougher.

Drouin Tree Service · 30th January 2011, 04:07 PM

Damm Ekka them shindiawas were little bricks with about as much performance to match

newguy18 · 5th February 2011, 04:11 PM

I got 2 200t's and i'm gonna buy a 3rd pretty soon.

serialtreekiller · 5th March 2011, 04:57 PM

066logger your right thay are the best saw ever made

CAT1693TA · 6th March 2011, 03:19 AM

pics of the 461 already on the net,and it will be available in may. 661 should be here by fall. it appears that the core of the saw is the same. the 461 only has 9 different parts from the 460,and 3 of those are the filter/covers. i would think it will be the same saw with a strato top end and stainless muffler. if they improve filtration and give them a little more power,they should be pretty nice saws. also the 440 will return for a 1 year run in its old form. this is exciting stuff for stihl guys.

R.Shaw · 15th March 2011, 08:14 PM

what are they doing to the 460???

Eric Frei · 16th March 2011, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cut4fun

Comparison

Pay attention to the PHO weight change!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Frei

Bit more HP but the weight, Stihl are really going the wrong way here.

I'll need to buy another then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Frei

It's almost the same weight as the Shindaiwa 357 which did give me my tennis elbow 10 years ago.

The power different is negligible, 10% and likely gain that by taking the screen out of the muffler anyway.

Backward move IMHO.

Bit of misinformation here, figures quoted are apparently for rear handled version .... identical top handled version supposed to be 2oz heavier, that's all.

superfire · 21st March 2011, 08:01 AM

Talked to my dealer. He said that the 440,460,660,880 are here to stay for now. Everything else is going strato, not sure about top handles as the size restraints of the strato engine design. I think stotos are a joke.

newguy18 · 21st March 2011, 02:46 PM

I just got another 200t yesterday,the 201 t looks like a joke.A good climbing saw shouldn't have a primer.

Logger Ally · 22nd March 2011, 06:38 AM

I haven't brought a newer saw in the forest for 20 years. They just don't make em like they use to and a good reason to buy an old saw. My runners are 1985-1989 60cc and up. If I can't adjust the carb old style...give it to my neighbor

APSE · 25th March 2011, 04:33 PM

Yeah,
And what about those catalytic converter mufflers? The ones I have seen on other brands of saws are welded up tight and mighty tough to modify, to regain the performance. And then there's those awesome non-adjustable carbs, too. But it's okay, the EPA is just trying to help us.....

MS 390 (Denmark) · 31st March 2011, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superfire

Talked to my dealer. He said that the 440,460,660,880 are here to stay for now. Everything else is going strato, not sure about top handles as the size restraints of the strato engine design. I think stotos are a joke.

The new 461 was on the bay germany 3 weeks ago,darn thats fast....

23rd January 2011, 03:50 PM	#1
Martin Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Duncan, BC, Canada Posts: 56	new 660 coming? I've heard from my local saw shop that Stihl are reworking the 660 and 460. Apparently the decision is based on emmissions but the whole saw is supposed to get changed, anyone out there hear any news like that?

23rd January 2011, 04:45 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: new 660 coming? If it's anything like the other saws all that happens is they get 1/2kg heavier for the same power. Buy up the old saws before you cannot get them. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

23rd January 2011, 11:05 PM	#3
CAT1693TA Sappling Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: upper midwest Posts: 12	Re: new 660 coming? I have not heard anything on the 660,but the new 461 will be available here in the states april/may. 251,271,291 are already available here. The 291 seems to be a step forward,pretty nice saw,not sure on the other 2. 461 is to be a 441 w/76-80cc,and will most likely be a little heavier.i would bet stihl will be careful not to mess w/the 660 too much,til the have to.

24th January 2011, 01:15 AM	#4
Cut4fun Former Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: midwest Posts: 580	Re: new 660 coming? Yep. Just like the MS201T is now over 9lbs coming out this year. Better get your 200T's while you can.

24th January 2011, 02:06 AM	#5
wrebelmachine Sappling Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: MO Posts: 22	Re: new 660 coming? I heard it too. Heavy!

24th January 2011, 02:35 AM	#6
Martin Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Duncan, BC, Canada Posts: 56	Re: new 660 coming? well other than the mounts taking a little more of the vibration I agree it would be foolish to mess with the saw, I guess we'll all have to wait and see, if I hear any more I'll be sure to pass it on

24th January 2011, 06:05 AM	#7
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,726	Re: new 660 coming? A year or so away i have heard and its not good news,Ill be buying a few to put away. __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

24th January 2011, 08:55 AM	#8
stihlman441 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Australia,near Geelong Vic Posts: 103	Re: new 660 coming? Keep us posted,i have been thinking about getting a snelerized ( brad ported )one sent over maybe i should get onto that before its to late.

24th January 2011, 10:17 AM	#9
jamming Sappling Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: diablo wa Posts: 22	Re: new 660 coming? Glad i just picked up a MS 460 !

25th January 2011, 08:28 AM	#10
066logger Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: missouri Posts: 74	Re: new 660 coming? man i sure hope they dont jack up the 660 its my favorite saw.

25th January 2011, 09:43 PM	#12
Cut4fun Former Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: midwest Posts: 580	Re: new 660 coming? Comparison Pay attention to the PHO weight change! Attached Thumbnails

25th January 2011, 10:20 PM	#13
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: new 660 coming? Bit more HP but the weight, Stihl are really going the wrong way here. I'll need to buy another then. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

26th January 2011, 12:08 AM	#14
Martin Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Duncan, BC, Canada Posts: 56	Re: new 660 coming? gee, just over 1 lb for only .2 hp that doesn't make sense for a climbing saw

26th January 2011, 06:58 AM	#15
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: new 660 coming? It's almost the same weight as the Shindaiwa 357 which did give me my tennis elbow 10 years ago. The power different is negligible, 10% and likely gain that by taking the screen out of the muffler anyway. Backward move IMHO. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

30th January 2011, 02:14 PM	#16
Woods Ported I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA Posts: 2	Re: new 660 coming? Maybe they just want to make saws heavier to make more twiggy people tougher.

30th January 2011, 04:07 PM	#17
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,726	Re: new 660 coming? Damm Ekka them shindiawas were little bricks with about as much performance to match __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

5th February 2011, 04:11 PM	#18
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: new 660 coming? I got 2 200t's and i'm gonna buy a 3rd pretty soon. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

5th March 2011, 04:57 PM	#19
serialtreekiller Former Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: brisbane Posts: 49	Re: new 660 coming? 066logger your right thay are the best saw ever made

6th March 2011, 03:19 AM	#20
CAT1693TA Sappling Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: upper midwest Posts: 12	Re: new 660 coming? pics of the 461 already on the net,and it will be available in may. 661 should be here by fall. it appears that the core of the saw is the same. the 461 only has 9 different parts from the 460,and 3 of those are the filter/covers. i would think it will be the same saw with a strato top end and stainless muffler. if they improve filtration and give them a little more power,they should be pretty nice saws. also the 440 will return for a 1 year run in its old form. this is exciting stuff for stihl guys.

15th March 2011, 08:14 PM	#21
R.Shaw Former Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Daylesford Posts: 5	Re: new 660 coming? what are they doing to the 460???

21st March 2011, 08:01 AM	#23
superfire Former Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central Oregon Posts: 166	Re: new 660 coming? Talked to my dealer. He said that the 440,460,660,880 are here to stay for now. Everything else is going strato, not sure about top handles as the size restraints of the strato engine design. I think stotos are a joke.

21st March 2011, 02:46 PM	#24
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: new 660 coming? I just got another 200t yesterday,the 201 t looks like a joke.A good climbing saw shouldn't have a primer. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

22nd March 2011, 06:38 AM	#25
Logger Ally Sappling Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 33	Re: new 660 coming? I haven't brought a newer saw in the forest for 20 years. They just don't make em like they use to and a good reason to buy an old saw. My runners are 1985-1989 60cc and up. If I can't adjust the carb old style...give it to my neighbor

25th March 2011, 04:33 PM	#26
APSE Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Aspen Park,Colorado Posts: 76	Re: new 660 coming? Yeah, And what about those catalytic converter mufflers? The ones I have seen on other brands of saws are welded up tight and mighty tough to modify, to regain the performance. And then there's those awesome non-adjustable carbs, too. But it's okay, the EPA is just trying to help us..... __________________ Vintage Chainsaws, Parts, Restorations, Custom Work, Special Saws on Request and Much More. Please visit our webalbum: http://picasaweb.google.com/APSELLC or our website https://apse.mybigcommerce.com/ APSE-LLC Email:apse-llc@live.com Phone:720-260-0157 Business Hours: Tuesday Through Friday 9-6 Saturday 9-5 Rocky Mountain Time, USA If ya got sumthin' ya can't find we'd be glad to try and help ya! Brian and Tina :

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