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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wallkill New York
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I'm having trouble with a Sthil MS 210 Chain saw . 16 inch bar,....The Automatic oiler will not work at all. I tried cleaning all the ports and even emptying out the oil and addind a thinner oil, 10/40 ,just to see if it would flow but No Luck....can anyone help me solve this problem please. thanks, Dan O'
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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| Stihl MS 290 Not oiling . Here is someone Else's post, about the same problem. If this doesn't help, let me know, and I'll see what I can do for you, to help you figure it out. Did you pull out the oil filter hose in the tank? If not, try there first. Bruce.
__________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder). |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Did you have any luck with the oilier for your chain saw? Please keep us posted, maybe we can help, if you are still stuck. Bruce.
__________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder). |
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wallkill New York
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Haven't had a chance to finish working on it yet Bruce. We got hit with some snow this past week and my focus has been on my old David Bradley Tractors, which I plow with but I will let you know for sure what the outcome is with the saw as soon as i get back into my shop and rip it apart........Life is Good but Winter Sucks |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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![]() ![]() ![]() . When I have to mount the snow blower onto the back of my tractor, that is when I hate winter. Thus far, I had to clear the yard 4 or 5 times (to many times for my liking ![]() ![]() ![]() ). Once you have time, let me know how you are proceeding with it, and if you need any more help, just yell. Take care. Bruce.
__________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder). | |
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wallkill New York
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Hey Bruce, I finally got back to working on that saw and was sjuccessful in solving the oiling problem. (I Think) I emptied and washed out the oil tank with Fuel and let it air dry 3 times. Shaking the hell out of it to slush all the oil & possible other stuff loose. Then I fabricated a small hose connector to fit in the tank and hooked it up to my shop vac and sucked it out for a few minutes. Finally I blew the tank dry with compressed air. Also blew the ports out from the front side with air....Filled it up with fresh oil and let it run without the bar on for about 5 minutes...the Oil is now being pumped out quite well...Not sure if it's as much as it should be but MUCH more then before. I have 3 ASh trees to cut up tomorrow, so we'll realy give it a good test drive through the wood & let you know for sure........Dan O'
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Hi Dan. Glad to be of help. When you start your chain saw, with the bar and chain on it, place a piece of cardboard on the ground, while standing with the chain saw safety in hand, and point the tip of the bar, towards the cardboard, about 4" to 6" away should be good (do this before you attempt to do any wood cutting, that way you will know if it is working or not). If there is oil hitting the cardboard, from the tip of the bar, and chain, you will have enough oil. If you tip the chain saw up side down, is there a place to put in a screwdriver, to adjust the amount of oil used, if so, make sure that you have oil hitting the cardboard, and adjust accordingly. For my chain saws, I have the oilier adjusted up the max, for my 034 (16" bar), and my 044 (20" and 24"bars). Also, every once in a while, kick a block of wood to give it a 1/4 spin, place the tip of the bar towards it, same as testing with the cardboard, and check to see if your oilier is working right. How did the filter look, or did you not pull it out. I pull my oilier filter out once a year, and make sure that it is clear, if not, I clean it. I had a problem with my 034, that way too. The previous owner (I got it as a non running chain saw, and fixed it up), had fine saw dust in the fuel tank, and in the oil tank. He wasn't careful, with his fueling setup. I put in a new carburetor kit, ran it for about two tanks of gas/oil mix, and the chain saw wouldn't run anymore. The carburetor was just full of fine sawdust. Both fuel filter, and the filter for the chain oilier where just clogged with fine sawdust, and when I flushed the both tanks all out, it was thick as mud almost. Since then, I haven't had any troubles with the chain saw. If you run into anymore problems, let me know, and I'll see what I can do to help you. Bruce.
__________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder). |
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wallkill New York
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Bruce, thanks , Will follow you're advice...My Saw DOES NOT have an adjusting screw for the oil flow. I know this is gonna sound crazy.... but...I'm a bit of a Rube Goldburg Fabricating Nut sooooooo....I was thinking about rigging up a small siphon type trigger controled oiler so i could control the amount of oil being applied to the chain....I use to use an old Mac and an even older David Bradley Saw, Both of which had the thumb push button [primer oiler...I realy liked that I could control it and oil up the bar more when cutting realy hard wood like Hickory...is there any kind of after marrket "Add On" sold for this purpose? If so let me know...If NOT, do you think it's wise to try to make one? Dan O' |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Hi Dan. The only thing that you can do, is change the oiler to an oiler that runs off of the clutch hub. It is a bit of a chore, but can be done, and a bit of a cost as well. You will have to change the clutch hub, to a deeper hub, with a notch in it to run the oiler arm, which drives the oil pump. You will have to drill a hole big enough in the base of the chain saw, to fit the new style oil pump. My 024, and I think (can't remember) my 026, both have the same oiler that your chain saw has, that is it is constantly running off of the crank shaft of the chain saw. It is oiling, even when the chain saw is idling. I find with this type of oiler, there is more than enough oil going out, and into, and on the chain, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. My 034, and 044, both the oilers on them run off of the clutch drum, and I sometimes think, that there could be a little more oil on the bar, and chain. Not too much a person can do about that, unless go to a high volume of a pump, at what cost I have no idea. Hope this help you a little more. Bruce.
__________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder). |
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