ms 361 and 28" bar

066logger

and actually if longer bars are so great why dont we just use 8 foot bars so that we dont even hafto walk. lol i think its a great idea

superfire

066 it sounds to me like you have never seen or cut pine and or fir trees. The trees in my area are bushy monsters. Most of my trees are 2' to 6' DBH and and limbing these brutes with a short bar is a joke trust me Hard woods are simple to limb with a short bar,they aint got much limbs to start with The one tree I fell last week had 6" to 20" limbs on it and standing on a log the 3' bar shines, try that with a short bar all day Just watch Axe Men they only saw with bars 28" and longer. Right coast trees are match sticks compared to leaft coast basebats

066logger

ahh true. didnt see that you were from the pnw. i suppose up their it might be more user friendly to use a longer bar. but i dont think ill believe anything i see on axe men geez. id shoot myself if i had to deal with those drama queens all day long lol. while im talking to somebody from up their hows the job market? id like to move up their and be a faller but am not sure exactly how to locate anybody thats hiring....

Cut4fun

Dennis cutting one of the small west coast trees.

910 Jonsered with a 32" bar bucking this 7' Sugar Pine

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newguy18

Lol, i remove big oaks on a regular basis [90 percent of the time]. I've cut some down that were 12' dbh. An average dbh of 4'-7'.I use my 460 with a 28" bar even though as a freelancer i usually have access to a 660 with a 36" bar and an 880 with a 50" bar.Why do i do it with a smaller saw? For starters i usually have to climb more than one a day, 2 i never have the convenience of just dropping the tree.

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superfire

Harwoods are easy to drop beacause all the weight is horizonal . Soft woods are generaly alot of verticlal heavy weight and if not cut right they barber chair. Longer the bar the greater the safey factor. Right coast trees do not have the dangers left coast trees have. We get healthy looking standing green trees with soft or rotten cores that a short bar would be deadly to cut with. Longer the bar the greater the safety, shorter the bar more danger. I had a 038 with a 24" bar kick back on me yesterday because I was using to short of a bar. I find my sellf watching people use short bars doing alot of dangerous things do to lack of bar lenght need for the job.

066logger

ahh idk about easy. i do agree that youall have some pretty soft wood but you gotta remember that all our hardwoods horizontal branches catch on EVERYTHING. meaning that untill you get the hang of knowing exactly where the trees going and if it can break the branches its goin through or not then you will be pullin lots of hang ups. lots lol. and when the tree loses a large branch on one side then you have lots of pull causing barber chairs. i think theirs pluses and negatives to both types of trees. but i gotta ask do you all have any trees that grow thorns that sometimes completely cover the whole tree and can be a foot long? lol i was cuttin a locust one day and leaned over to cut a branch on the other side of the tree and pined my saw chaps to my leg with a thorn that went in a good 2 inches. real fun lol.

superfire

Harwoods are easy to judge weight loading . Soft woods can be harder to judge.

066logger

yea. i think if we both switched spots then we could see the other persons point about long bar vs short bar. i mean if you cut 15 to 25 inch trees all the time normally theirs not a whole lot of reason for a bigger bar but if your cutting 4 plus feet all the time then yea id say theirs the time to have a long bar.

superfire

This is my point. In my neck of the I cut big trees all the time,longr bars are the normal operation. I do use a short bar kinda rarely I can use a 2 footer rarely