Hey Holmentree 3120

Cut4fun

Holmentree here is a 3120 like the one I have for this season 2010. Mike from the Stihl timbersports series is practicing with his with practice chain in this video and he picked his last year while we were racing at Chardon Ohio in May 09. Same builder did both saws.

Eric Frei

Pretty quick, it'd be a right bugger if it didn't start or you slipped on the starter handle or something.

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Cut4fun

It happens. Mine bit me last year practicing with it and my finger tips went numb and I was shy the rest of the practice time.

Willard Holmen

Looks really quick Cut4fun. Next Sat Feb20 I'm putting on a chainsaw speed cutting /carving competition for our Northern Manitoba Trappers Festival. Husqvarna Canada is sending a 3120 for display and possible demonstration. I don't know yet whats done to it but will be fun to see.
My major sponsor [ our local Hushy dealer] donated 2 brand new 576XP AutoTunes for use in the mens and womens speed cutting events!!
I'll fill you in more by Sat.
A little trick to fix that top dead center kickback on the starter rope is to paint a bright mark on your flywheel just after TDC as you see it through the rewind housing. Sure helped me when I raced my Stihl 090 back in the day. My 2 brothers did the same with their Mac 101s also.

Willard.

Cut4fun

Willard here is 1 of my 2 Sachs Dolmar 166 saws I have. This one is piped and on alky and was built by Marcel Vincent MVP.
I had to go through it last year after hanging a ring during a practice run and this is the first start up after rebuild and running it rich.

Willard Holmen

Very impressive Kevin. Those 166 s were strong runners when built up right.
I only have a couple days left before my competition. Already getting lots of entries, alot of women are signing up for the womens event. May have to go down to 2 cuts from 3 per competitor to have enough wood. I just got 4- 8ft 10"X10" spruce timbers cut this morning , wood sure smells nice and fresh. Will smell even fresher when their all cut up into cookies saturday afternoon.
Check us out www.trappersfestival.com

Willard.

Willard Holmen

My chainsaw events start in less then 24hrs. I found a little time to post a couple of photos of 3 brand new Husqvarna 576XP AutoTunes that my dealer got in this morning for me. Talk about last minute delivery. I am now the proud owner of these 3 saws and their only use are to be used for the N. Manitoba Trappers Festival which I'm a director of for our chainsaw events. My dealer [major sponsor] paid for all 3 saws.
This is the 1st year he and Husqvarna are sponsoring my events, Stihl was my sponsor for the last 21 years before they backed out last year.
Of course I will have to put at least 10 or 20 tanks of fuel through them to break them in during my tree season.
2 are used for the competition and one will be a spare. All 3 will have to have the same ammount of hours on them to keep the competition fair.
Now off to fuel them up and the factory told my dealer I have to run them WOT for the first 5 minutes in the biggest log I can find to reset the computers from the factory's lean settings to make the EPA regs.
Amazing looking saws.
By the way the 3120XP came in for display with a 36" bar but is completely stock, no mods.
Willard.

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Cut4fun

I ran the other 576xp (not autotune) at the racing gtg last spring that was a demo saw from a husky dealer near by. Felt really strong for a stock saw that size with it's 32"-36" bar buried.

Nice looking cants.

Cut4fun

Make sure the 3120 finds it way back down here now you hear. You can keep the bar and chain to make shipping cheaper.

Willard Holmen

We had a great event, weather was great, even had a national television program crew and celebrity Rick Mercer at my event and will be on national tv in about 2 weeks. Husqvarna will get good exposure here.
I ran about 25 men and 20 women through the speed cutting and carving events in 3 hrs.
Heres a few pics, I'll post more later.
Willard

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Willard Holmen

Yes these new age saws are very impressive in stock form. I've demoed Stihls 441 strato saws a few years ago but these brand new micro processor strato-charged Husqvarnas are quite amazing.
I ran these 3 saws at WOT for 5 minutes each right out of the box to reset their computers, with a 32" b/c blocking up 24"-36" diameter frozen 16 ft. spruce logs for my carving competition. With my 35 plus yrs on a saw I have never seen a 75cc factory stock saw cut like this with a 32" b/c in wood this big. After that first hard 5 min. I set them down to idle and they ran perfect even while quickly blipping the throttle to WOT again.
I compared these 576XP AutoTunes to my 372XP and the only difference in size is the 576 has a little larger airfilter cover, same dimensions every where else what I can see without using a tape measure. Weight difference in the 372 and 576? I can't tell any difference from holding them.
Willard.

Willard Holmen

Yes I'm sure you would love that brand spanking new Husqvarna 3120 in your mailbox Kevin.Theres a good picture of it sitting on top of a block in photo #023 in my 2nd last post.
I'm seriousily thinking of buying it seeing my Husky dealer gave me those 3 new 576XP AutoTunes to keep.
I remember all the excitement when those 3120s first came out in the fall of 1988. I'm sure many improvements have been done to it in the last 22 years.
By the way my Husky dealer also donated 3 brand new Husqvarna 353 saws for my competition's prizes. I donated $500, plus with $700 of other sponsors money I had $ 1200 to hand out.
A local young girl came into the women's speed cutting event and tied for 1st place with a seasoned veteran. She then took 1st in a tie-breaker with the vet. This is the good part..... she never used a chainsaw before and to make things worse for herself she is left handed, holding the saw opposite to what its designed for!
She made her 3 cuts within the 6" allowed at record speed and then took home a brand new Husky 353 valued at $625 CDN plus $200 in cash.It was a good day for her.
Then I had the sneaky men's event veteran who waited until all 24 men cut. Then he goes up last now that the saws and b/c have some time on them in the clean wood, and he takes first.
Next year I'll have to have everyone draw their spots.
Willard.

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Cut4fun

Your stock saw speed cut. Was it hotstart over wood or hotstart on ground, they have their both hands on top of wood cant with saw idling on ground and picked it up on go?

Willard Holmen

Hot start on ground with hands on idling saw. This is the only safe way I can run this event. I get novices men and women who compete who have never used a chainsaw in their whole life. Alot of pressure on them, but they like my prizes and its fun for everyone, kind of like "beating the winter blues".
Here is 2 pictures from my womens speed cutting event, The 1st picture is Holly Wachal, she took 1st place and the 1st time she ever operated a chainsaw!! Plus to make things difficult shes left handed. She gifted with super fast and precise reflexes.
2nd photo is 2 women veterans.
Willard.

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Cut4fun

Seen it done that way to in WV. Never did it myself. But understand the safety issue.

That lefty hit a nice thin first cookie for a first timer.

Cut4fun

Here is the pump gas (yes it runs on just pump gas) piped 084 with STOCK 084 cylinder head, I just had to move out of my stable to make room for faster, Willard.
Ported by Big Dave Neiger.

Cut4fun

Willard you still got that stock 3120 around?

Willard Holmen

Yep its still sitting at our local Husky dealer . I didn't even ask him what he was asking for it. Wouldn't be cheap I'm sure.
I have to sell off my 090AV and a few other Stihls before I was thinking about the 3120. I'm all Husky now.
Got too many saws doing nothing, just collecting dust.
Willard.

Cut4fun

I have this stock 3120 with rev-limited coil removed and was running the only bar I had 32" from my 7900 on it today for that mount in some very dry seasoned elm logs and it was with only 32" buried rip cutting.

With the flywheel re-timed and jonsered 625 coil she pulls 13k plus wot stock. Now thats the way she should have ran.
Had a rev-limited coil of around 11k factory, heard even worse now days like 9.8k.

If they would, I wondered what a OEM P+C psi was with base gasket in. I know this will not happen IMHO.

I have this one with AF-Market rings piston cylinder and it is pulling 130-134 with thick paper gasket.

Cut4fun

Willard here is those made to order Cannon bars.

Cut4fun

There is 2-3 races I know of in MI and 1 has already run in WI, which is south of you right (do I have your providence location right)?

Seems like those Quebec and Ontario guys are racing every other weekend, about 3 or 4 races already. Seems like they have a lot of over wood stuff up that way.

Willard Holmen

Looks good Kevin. Cannon makes a excellent bar. From that picture I can't tell if that Torrington is a large or small roller. Could you measure its diameter?
The large [2 7/8"] Oregon rollers are hard to find these days. Lots of small 2 1/2" around still. At a dealer's yard sale last year he had a box full of brand new small 0regon rollers. Inventory from the late 1960s. I should have bought them up.
Willard.

Willard Holmen

Yep we share the Minnisota and North Dakota borders. We're kind of isolated here in the middle of the country. Too far from the west and east coast shows.
The guys from Quebec and Ontario are right in the bee hive of the racing circuits. Even a few guys from the maritimes [New Brunswick, Nova Scotia] are very high caliber competitors Cecil Starr and Paul Woodland for example.
Mercier, Duperre, Bertrand are pretty well the elite in saw building, power and hand saws.
Willard.

Cut4fun

I will have to measure the new roller. But found info where I measured the other rollers for someone in the past.

The biggest oregon one I have is 2.87, torrington 2.79 and smallest oregon 2.48.

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Cut4fun

Willard, my 3120 was built by a guy from MI, Cliff Helsel.

Willard Holmen

Looks really nice. I see the chain catcher caught the chain a few times. Do you have your bar tail as close to the drive sprocket as possible? That'll stop any chain derailing. The only trouble is your 3120 has a outboard clutch which hinders putting on a shortened up chain to get the tail up close to the sprocket. PITA to remove clutch everytime you take off/on chain.
Willard.

Cut4fun

Only time it throws a chain is operator error on change overs. You know when the chain is above the bar and operator dont allow enough room on change over and catch chain on cant.

Sure wish it was inboard.

Thats part of the reason I like my 084's for a work saw better then the 3120. I just like the build of the 084 saw alot better. JMO though.

Willard Holmen

But you talk to the guys who do heavy milling with a 084 or 3120. The 3120 's outboard clutch rules when the tough gets going. Alot heat is released into the 084's crankcase area from the inboard clutch.
The world's most heavy duty modern saw the Stihl 090Av has a outboard clutch for that reason.
Why don't you run direct drive hub [no clutch] on your 3120? Save alot of weight and gain some more rpm.
Willard.

Cut4fun

I'm not a milling type guy and never will be. I am just in this for fun, hence cut 4 fun.
I will buck and rip big wood, but I will never ever mill IMHO. Have been known to help stump a biggie, even drop one for fun to help others with the bigger stuff.


I dont build racesaws Willard, I just run them for fun . One just like mine holds the World Record in 12" round poplar 3 cuts cold aka: dead start. That's enough reason why.

You want to see video of the World Record run of 3.75 3 cuts in 12" poplar dead start?

Willard Holmen

Kevin that World record 3120 just like yours probably 9 out of 10 will have direct drive , no clutch.
Its nothing to get a machinist to make up a hub and sprocket welded on, that screws onto your saw just like your stock clutch does. I first built my direct drive hubs over 30 yrs ago. All the big runners go this route. Now you can get your bar tail up close and shortened chain on a little easier too.
You will be pleasantly surprised with the weight saving and extra power.
Willard.