HeliLoggers

NevC

Been watching a show, Heliloggers.
It looks like they use to 200T to top the trees, which seems like a lot of work for a small saw.
Anyone seen this and has an idea what saw is used.

Joshua Rugg

my uncle is a topper in washington. they use stihl 260 pro's with 20" bars. the guys you see on TV are cutting tiny timber compared to what the average topper actually cuts.

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Eric Frei

How's the language of them, got the F and the C on mainstream TV and some wankers carry on about this website!

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ArbTrain

Couldn't agree more .. watched an episode and didn't know which to be more shocked by. the language,, ( not that i'm a saint but i didnt know you could drop "c" bombs on normal telly!).. or their "odd" work standards.. throwing a grapling hook into the next tree and hoping it holds.. interesting,, and i later say the boss explain he wanted his boys doing that " so the didn't waste time going up and down tree's".. i have special ritual for boss's like that in the tree game and it involves my middle finger and the "c" bomb

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Eric Frei

The grappling hook is viable, you can buy them from Yank Arb shops, you still have a tie in point in the tree you are leaving but you'd take a bugger of a pendulum swing if it let go.

You notice with these Yank video's there's all this DRAMA and carry on, attitude bullying crap .... remember the Paul Nosak videos, same. You want to go toe to toe with me he's carrying on, such rednecks.

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paco

Yes they are using 200ts but unknown to most people and the big wigs at stihl australia. About 12 years ago I had an idea that I could improve the 200t. I thought it would cut much better running .325 full chisel chain rather than 3/8lp semi. all the guys at stihl told me it couldn't be done and there was no parts to suit . SoI got on the microfish at my local saw shop and after about 4hrs found a sprocket, bar and worm drive for the oil pump that would fit from an 021. these saws run at 14500rpm rather than the general 11000 rpm and with more drivelinks on .325 chain its nearly twice the saw. you can happily run 14' 16' and 18' bar. I generally run 14' and i can use this 90% of the time .need a 70+ cc saw. This is an awsome advantage in stopping fatigue by not having to lug a bigger heavier saw all day in most situations. I have been running all my 200ts like this for at least 12yrs now and havn't found it puts any extra stress on the saw and they last just as long and twice as good. About 5 yrs ago stihl have put .325 for 200t on there parts list. so when you need a new bar and sprocket for 200t spend another $10 on a worm drive and give it a go I would be very suprised if you ever go bact to 3/8lp. hope this helps as these saws are awsome the only climbing saw to us if you are serious about making work easy. does any one else run there 200t like this. Ps i enjoy heli loggers I it may be the little bit of red neck comming out.

paco

I agree grapple hook is an awsome idea you still have point of attachement and and is probably safer than doing the leap of faith and hoping you can grab hold of that branch or trunk and if not swinging backwards into the tree you just came from. makes perfect sense to climb one tree and be able to work 2 3 or 4 trees saves a lot of time and thats money. but the biggest thing is fatigue and if you can save energy and work smart not hard thats when you are working safe and thats what it is all about thumbs up for the grapple I dont use many gadgets prefer simple old school gear but thi is a good one

Drouin Tree Service

im interested !!

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paco

let me know if you need any more info.cheers paco

Willard Holmen

Eric seeing "Heli Loggers" is Canadian [British Columbia to be exact]
Are you calling us Canadians "Yanks"?

Eric Frei

Oops ... Canadians hate that! But were the guys yanks or Cannucks? The location may have been Canadian that's all.

Canadians didn't like losing in the ice hockey eh.

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Willard Holmen

The heli loggers are Canadians from British Columbia
Yes the riot in Vancouver BC is a black eye for Canadian hockey fans

treerat

Im interested in this mod also. Have a 200 on the bench now getting rebuilt Im up for the upgrade. Dont know if you want to post up or PM.

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Willard Holmen

I can help you
I run a .325 chisel chain on my MS200T. The Stihl part# for the .325 sprocket drum, bearing and oiler worm gear is 1129 640 2052.
After you convert your MS200T over to .325 chisel you will never go back to the little Mickey mouse 3/8 LoPro, even the new 3/8 LoPro chisel Stihl just introduced lately. I run a small mount 16" Husqvarna .325 guide bar.

I also run .325 chisel on my Husqvarna 338XPT with a 13" narrow kerf .325 bar. The part # for the 338 sprocket rim, drum and bearing is 537 32 60-02 and 503 78 92-04 for the oiler worm gear. The beauty about the Husky 338XPT is the available .325 kit has a small spline 7 pin rim sprocket, where the MS200 has only a spur sprocket available. The rims are alot easier on the chains drive links if the chain derails.

Use a 4.5 mm file [Oregon part # 80511] on the .325 chain. I found this is the perfect size file for the little 35cc MS200. The 3/16" filed chain is a little too much bite for the little 200 or 338 and the 5/32" file is a little too small. But I have used the 5/32 sucessively when the chain is filed about 1/2 ways back and the file handle is held down 10 degrees.
In the 1st pic I have .325 on my Husqvarna 338XPT sitting on top of my MS200 with 1/4" b/c.

Willard.

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Willard Holmen

Are you sure you're not thinking of the USA Axe Men videos. The Heli Loggers TV videos up in Canada are topping red cedar at 20-30 inches diameter at 150-200 feet off the ground.

Some of the big red cedars up on northern Vancouver Island and the Queen Charlotte Islands make timber in Washington state look like pecker poles.

Eric Frei

Those heli-loggers go in and get the biggest assed trees, they like hunt them.

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Willard Holmen

Those big red cedars are a very valuable lumber tree. Especially when the helicopter that lifts out the logs is charging $15,000 per hour.

That same helicopter company was raising hydro line towers here in northern Manitoba last February and they were doing on the average of 45 towers a day.

paco

Your local stihl dealer will have all parts listed on the computer upgrade is a pice of piss to do I have found that 14' bar is about the best all round length. If you want to use husky 338 then thats up to you. Glad to see others are on to this technology. I don't believe in keeping all my secrets to myself. you will never go back