GB "Titanium" bars

Drouin Tree Service

Had some real bad experiences greasing tips,Luckily the cost wasnt coming out of my pocket.I tell you guys the carlton premium bars are A1.

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rick

Only 20" and down are that particular 'make' (Tsumura) in Carlton ATM.
Over 20" are German.
Tilton Equipment in the US have a house brand called 'Total Super Bars' which are also Japanese Tsumura sprocket tipped bars, as do Cutters Choice who call theirs 'Laser Forester Pro'
Those 'Carlton' bars come from the factory greased too

<edit> Forgot to ad I have a 20" one on a saw here ATM, the finish and workmanship is superb.

Drouin Tree Service

Ive got 2x20" and pick up a 18" soon,Had one for over a year on the ground crews saw(361) and its worn VERY little.

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rick

Backs up everything else I've heard about them.
Can't fault mine, but it's only got about 8-10 hours use so far.

The GB Ti bars are bloody hard to get ATM, prices are becoming silly and the rumours don't sound good about GB's Oz bar (except harvester bars) manufacturing in the future either.
GB's 'new' chain (since they lost Carlton) is Chinese from what I've been told. (haven't seen any yet)

windthrown

GB: Gud Bar!

Bar stay sharp long time.
No drippy bar. You like!
Long bar, last long time!
Bar cheap too!

stihlman441

They are still making the titanium bars in Melbourne i have orded a 18'' and 25'' get them next week.

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windthrown

Where did you order them?

stihlman441

Centrephone Services
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rick

Funnily enough an old GB thread popped back up on AS today too and it looks promising as dealers are starting to get bars again with 'Made in Australia' stamped into them.

windthrown

Roo-bars? Cool...

I retired from AS a while back at 5,000 posts.

rick

I thought you were joking windy, noticed I hadn't seen a post lately and went looking for you and found your 'out (for now at least)' post....

Why did you go and do an Andy ?

BTW, Cut4fun was just over reading a thread on racesaws.
That's where you'll find the answers to your porting Q's

windthrown

I am pretty busy this summer, and I decided to take a hint from Andy and bail on AS. I left AS before for 6 months about 2 years ago, and Andy talked me into going back after Ralph left (and had all the posts there about his messy divorce). I was banned from AS for a day a few months ago just for asking about what happened to Cut4Fun. I was banned again for a comment about TreeCo's being tossed as a mod. I am the reason they have a 'no criticising the mods' ban on AS. The mods on AS and I have had many run-ins about a lot of stuff. I also got tired of all the blathering and heated debates there about religion, the 361, and basic BS from some east coasters, like saying that I am a moron for sharpening my own chipper knives. I still post in the AS PNW group, and I am the mod the 361 group. Posts there do not count on the post count.

There are other reasons I left. I am bailing out of my tree business. I sold my Bandit Chipper this week and my climbing saws (got top dollar for them from some other tree guys). My back is too messed up to climb any more. I can still fall trees, but there are no jobs for fallers of late. Also I am being underbid by too many people now. I charge $75 an hour for myself, saws and chipper, and I did a good business from February through June. Then things fell off. Seems that the Mexicans are doing stuff for el cheapo, for like $25-$50 an hour. Also the tree guys I know are all charging less now to compete. Maybe $50 an hour average. I cannot afford to stay in the tree business charging only $50 an hour. Gas sucks up $5 an hour, trips to and from the job sites suck up more gas and time, chipper knives, tires, oil, loops, and general maintenence take up more time and money as well. Never mind huge capital costs, like buying chippers and trucks and chainsaws. I was buried in May, and all my free time I was sharpening and tuning the saws and the chipper, tearing down from a job or setting up for the next one. I was also running around doing bids, going to the bank, spending money placing ads, insurance, and general business overhead.

So now I am going to do some firewood stuff. I can get all the firewood I want for free, and I can sell it in the fall. I am doing some toned down tree work for some people part time. I am also doing saw work and chipper maintenance for some tree guys as well. All part time. The rest of my time I am out kayaking the rivers here with my brother. And doing ski patrol training on Mt Hood. I a living large, and trying to do more things that I want to do before I cannot do them any more. One day I will wake up and I will be 80, and scratch my head, and say, WTF? Not today though.

Bruce Hopf

Being Banned for AS, is no big loss IMO. I was banned from there last fall. I go in and look around there, with another name (but can't post), to see what is going on, and the BS is getting deeper and deeper, over there all the time. . I enjoy myself here a lot more than when I was a member at AS.
Hardly anyone here will try and belittle you here, but not like over there at AS, where there would be someone there that would just try and go out of their way to do just that.
Here if you are in the wrong, or misunderstand something, there is always some one here that would go out of their way, to help you out to clarify and to explain things so that you would have a better understanding of things, and show you where you went wrong. Bruce.

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Eric Frei

Windthrown, I too am constantly being banned, that spastic Caseyforrest fool and his crony henchmen! Banned for words like chit instead of the real word shit!

On a blue collar forum. That's just nuts, they wanted religious banter and politics and now are swamped with idiots of that caliber.

As far as the deal with Mexicans and hacks I have waged a similar campaign here, done what I can but frankly you'll go broke waiting for anyone to do anything about it. You think the ISA gives a crap?

Then the yanks attack saying customers should know best and no need for regulation, pack of idiots mate, and you reckon THEY GOT YOUR BACK? No way, they'll screw you faster than a hooker in the White House.

Divided we fall, whilst the opponents (Mexicans) are united, it has been a long known fact that we dont bond as strongly as other races, and that is our undoing, that and our precious rights to do as we choose and screw the regulations.

Take a look at this poll here ..... clearly many see this job as their right to do regardless of paperwork or qualifications.

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windthrown

Well, the US is completely overrun with corporate and banking fraud, extortion, bribes, and everything else. Last week they busted a ton of politicians and rabbis (yes, Jewish rabbis) in New Jersey in a huge corruption sting. Everyone there is on the take, no exceptions. Never mind the insurance company bailout, the banking bailout, the auto bailout, and the Wall Street bailout. Or the real estate crash, or the banking crash, or the market crash. We are so in debt we will never get out. If I were younger I would consider emigrating Down Under, and stay with my cousin in Sydney.

We are up shit creek deep without a paddle. We have been sold out to every multinational company that there is. The corporate lobbies are paying off the politicians and getting whatever they want. The Mexicans are just cheap labor. So are the Russians, who are also coming here in droves lately. There are signs in Cerillic all across town. In actuality, the INS (US immigration) is working around the clock and busting illegals as fast as they can, and processing and deporting them as fast as they can. They are overwhelmed. The bleeding hearts all want to save the poor starving people of the world, and they tie the deportation system up in the courts. Also companies hire illegals through contracting agencies that set up and fold before they can be investigated. All the maids, janitors, custodians, restaurant workers, gardeners, painters, construction workers, etc. are all displacing millions of jobs here. And no one seems to be able or willing to do anything about it.

What it comes down to here is that people will sell themselves out and hire illegal hacks to do everything for them. From scrambling their eggs for breakfast to butchering their trees for less money. Plain and simple. I think in reality that these illegals do not have a clue as to the cost to do business, and they will fail pretty fast. Only to be replaced with a new round of goons that is evern dumber than the last, in an endless cycle of self-destructive process. I saw it in California when I was there in the 1980s. The Mexicans moved into the nursery and landscaping trades. They started as temp ag labor, so they were not subject to hiring laws. Or rather, the employers were not fined for hiring them, so they hired them and drove anyone else out of business. So they mushroomed out into related trades, like arbor and gardening services, and many trades here are now dominated by Hispanic labor. When I was a kid there were zero Mexicans in Oregon. Now there are barrios everywhere, bleeding the system dry. Se habla Espanol.

Oh well. We are so in debt now I suppose it does not matter. We are destined to become another Mexico, with a very low standard of living. We became corrupt and lazy. Or at least a lot of people did. Way too many people bought into the housing bubble, and it was way too easy for anyone to get a loan. I sold my house 2/3 the way into the peak. I am living half from that money now, and half on what I earn. A lot of us still are trained, skilled and do good work, but we are being beaten out by cheap, cheaper and cheapest. I would imagine that if and when the logging industry gets back into gear around here, the Mexicans will all be lined up to displace Joe the white sawyer and Ed the saw mill man. No one is stopping them.

Oh well, I can rant for days about this shit and never get anyplace. No point in criticising the obvious, as Carnige said. I can still afford beer at least. Even if it is only Papst Blue Birbbon. My job as an engineer was off-shored 6 years ago to China. Those were the days.

Eric Frei

I am tired of arguing with idiots about a so called "level playing field". Some argue that jobs have to go to China as we are not competative any longer.

There's a sign of stupidity to start with, and over at AS these idiots flock together like flies on shit, however the future is destined to be tough as those with their idiocy insist job losses are the way forward.

Have a look at this video, level playing field my ass. And have a look at some of the idiot comments on that YouTube site.


Corporations look for low overheads and higher profits, politicians ... well who the hell knows what they really do but doing the right thing isn't one of them it appears when it comes to peoples livelihoods and jobs.

It's happening here too, frankly 20 years ago some Labour party wanker said we need to be more than a quarry and farm for the planet, 20 years later that's about all we have and our currency and economy ride on the back of our resources, anything else gets outsourced to India or China.

I assure you, if our mining goes then we are a banana republic... farming, well drought stuffs that up on it's own and with climate change that area will become unproductive plus goods come from 3rd world places cheaper (and toxic/diseased).

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rick

I think I'm the only bugger that hasn't earned an infraction or been banned there
I mustn't be controversial enough, or no bastard listens to my drivel

Good to see you still about on the forums Windy, always appreciate your input and Bruce, I still can't believe what happened to you over there, but then in the short time i've been on the saw/timber forums, I've seen some weird stuff, and I've been on online forums for near on ten years now.

Now Ekk, I'm not surprised you've had the odd holiday. Maybe if you told people what you really thought sometimes and didn't hold back so much...

rick

..and then you have the NSW State Govt allowing exploration and are about to grant longwall coal mining licenses under the most productive and fertile broad acre farm land in the country, land that is riddled with fragile aquifers...

Short term gain purely for royalties as the govt is broke, and don't start me on the climate change aspect when it's for coal.......

Eric Frei

Wonder what fool is in charge of that one?

Certainly the Midnight Oil star does the opposite of what he sang about ... How Can We Sleep When Our Beds Are Burning" " Blue SKy Mining" Just another feathering his political ass, wonder if he's got shares in Gunns Logging?

Up here, the Ole Fitzgerald guidelines are catching out more corrupt pollies than ever LABOR ONES TOO. Seems an new era of suppression and disguise has entered politics.

Stirling Hinchliffe, Desley Boyle fail to declare dealings | The Courier-Mail

Developer David Marriner tips bucket on Queensland | The Courier-Mail

Mates rates back to haunt Anna Bligh | The Courier-Mail

Trade rep Steve Bredhauer denies ethics breach | The Courier-Mail

Resident fury over BrisConnections pay deal | The Courier-Mail

Fired Enhance lobbyist Ross Daley faces sack as paid consultant to Careflight Queensland | The Australian

And here's the best for last, ole Tony Fitzgerald is in a video in this link, worth a watch.

Beattie defends his leadership after Fitzgerald attack | The Courier-Mail

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rick

Mate, Beattie and Anna Bligh are dead set Rocket Scientists compared to the inbred party flacks running NSW, and the wankers sitting on the cross benches ('opposition' would imply they have some nous) are being taken over by the religious right

windthrown

En el futuro? El Arbol Site-o.

It will be all Mexican hacks over there arguing about stumping and pollarding trees, and complaining about the Russians moving into the business. And the new wet-backs charging $5 an hour to get the jobs, and debating about the price of rice and beans.

Too bad it sounds like Oz is just as phucked up as the US is now (do I get banned here for spelling phuck?). Same with Canada. At least in Canada you can go see a doctor though. Spendy up there; taxes are really high and housing is completely unaffordable. I looked at NZ immigration about 6 years ago and I barely qualified then. Europe is OK, but they have a wealth tax there. No place to go, no place to hide... maybe I should emigrate to... Mexico? Become a Beaner. Reverse immigration. Get involved with the northern border Maffia. Run chainsaws for a living (run chainsaws, as in smuggling them). Drink cheap Mexican beer (the beer is actually pretty good in Mexico, and its really cheap in price).

rick

Surprisingly Oz is the least affected industrialised country in the current GF meltdown, but as Ekka said it's the commodities that were and are continuing to keep things affloat.
My business is barely affected, but then it was so poor over the last few years it had to get better although I was starting up from scratch with no capital in a new area.

Half the Kiwi's live here now, so it might be a good time for immigration to the land of the long white cloud too.
The worst part with living here, and it's worse for our cousins across the Tasman is the cost of goods here compared to NA, or particularly the US.
Smaller market demands higher margins on goods, and add in the cost of freight for living at the arse end of the world (IMO a good thing in troubled times) and we pay through the nose for things like saws.
Our housing is unaffordable IMO too. It's almost impossible for those not in the game yet to get on the merry-go-round of borrow, pay off, upgrade.

We bitch and moan mightily about our Health Care system and it's due for a major overhaul, but it's a lot fairer than the US one.

What's always cracked me up re the US health care system is how people scream that any extension of it to those that can't afford cover is 'Socialist', yet the US Federal Govt pays out more per capita than any other nation on earth on health care !

"Note that the USA, with only 46.7% of its health care expenditure in the public sector spends 67% more than Australia as a proportion of GDP and 2.3 times as much per capita. Yet despite this additional spending, the USA reports a worse population health status and has 40 million people without any form of health insurance. Most of it�s highest spending simply goes in higher costs."

From here MEDICARE FACT SHEET 6: HOW AUSTRALIAS HEALTH SERVICE COMPARES INTERNATIONALLY

OECD 2009 info/notes
US http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/46/2/38980580.pdf
Aus http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/46/38/38979536.pdf

windthrown

Looks like I do not qualify for emigrating to Oz, becasue I have not been employed as an engineer in the past 4 years. I have two college degrees in engineering, tons of experience in 3 different fields, including 15 years in high tech electronics design. I suppose that the guy in China that got my job qualifies though?

I actually qualify for emigration to NZ with 115 points... Maybe I can dog-leg it to OZ through NZ?

Eric Frei

Rick, the yanks have to spend 10X as much coz their costs are 10X as much as it's every doctor and their Lamborghini believes arriving to work is worth $500K a year plus insurance companies rip off hospitals and vice versa .... it's a mess.

At the top of the USA food chain is the greenback.

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newguy18

Shit yeah our health care is ridiculous,i had 350 bucks cash in my hand last week,sick as shit,coughing up mucus, ,and went to the health department,the lady asked me,who's your insurance provider?I said,i don't have one,but i have cash,she said,sorry if you don't have insurance we can't take you,yet everyday theres at least 50 illegal immigrants there getting free health care,i asked about that and she said,they're less fortunate and we have to help them.

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windthrown

I see Mexicans at the store all the time here with food stamps. They get food stamps, Oregon medial benefits, and free education for their kids. That is a big reason there is a long line of them streaming here for the handouts.

Eric Frei

We really derailed this thread eh.

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windthrown

Not really. Seems that GB derailed themselves. Just another casualty in the new world order.

rick

Yep, have me in a thread and watch it go right off the rails

rick

Ok, getting sort of back on track, or at least GB, is anyone willing to share their experience with GB's new 'Evo' chain yet ?

There's at least one member here that's used it that I know of.