Do you call it a Bar, or a Blade?

windthrown

Or do you call it a sword?

The thing that you sling the chain around on a chainsaw. What do you call it where you are?

Here we call 'em bars. But I have seen more and more ads for chainsaw blades lately. Maybe chainsaw slang is changing. Sword sounds kind of cool.

Eric Frei

It's a bar, but not a pub!

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newguy18

bar,my boss calls it a blade sometimes though.

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Therrin

Bar. A blade is what you find on my pocket knife.

phill ellison

we call them bars here

Gunslinger

Bar, when I fill the oil reservoir it's with bar and chain oil.

woodmiller

Bar...have had a few newbies to chainsaws refer to it as a blade...but they are very much the exception.

Bermy

We pros call them bars, the unwashed public call them blades!

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LeifR

In Norway we call them sword. And by the way, we use much shorter bars than I see from other parts of the world. Standard length is 13". I have a 15" "sword" too, because I have some big logs to handle. After the first two cuts (do you call it notch?) we make a cut into the pith area, then we cut the rest around. That means 15"+15"+ what's cut in the middle.

These ones are cut that way, and they are only 30-32".


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Therrin

pfffft.... "sword"... silly norwegians.

Sounds like your compensating for something, calling it that.

windthrown

Hmmmmm, one only has to look at your avatar and wonder if there is a compelling similarity there as well, for the same reason???

Therrin

Oooooooh!~ ZING!

Touche` man, you caught me there.



My niffty ninja suit really isnt showing much bulge I guess.

Eric Frei

Why you Norwegian's use such short bars/swords?

Now the West Coast American's, you know, they got the biggest bars of them all (so they think). They'll bolt a 32" bar on a ms441 ... they call it "pimp'n" ya saw, they also got these horrible weird wrap handles make ya feel like some dork when trying to cut close to the ground, I suppose that's because the West Coasters dont bend over for anything!

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windthrown

This is true. I usually use a 28 inch bar on my 440 and a 25 inch bar on my 361. At the PNW longbar GTG a few weeks ago, we all had really long bars. No need to cut from two sides, one side cuts; lower and upper face, and a single back cut. Also no need to bend over limbing. Personally I find long bars to be better on saws. I ran a 20 inch on my 290.

LeifR

The saws are used to cut the branches as well, and then a big saw would be dangerous and heavy. I see our way of felling is described both at TW and other forums, so I am a bit astonished that those astronomic bars are so popular.
I think big bars may be an option at the dealers here too, but standard length is 13". A firewood producer with huge logs might perhaps need a big one, but loggers in the wood use 13 or 15" bars.
Btw, loggers these days are called Ponsse, Skidder, Volvo......

Leif.

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LeifR

You'r joking, swordman!


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Willard Holmen

From my logging days my partner backbladed the limbs off my felled trees with the skidder's blade and all I then did after was cut the remaining side limbs with the saw, the limbs on the underside were crushed and broke from the stem.
I did however take in a chainsaw 6 point limbing technique seminar from a Swedish instructor years ago in the 1970s. In Sweden you have to apprentice for 2 years before your a qualified saw operator in the logging industry.
He was limbing felled spruce with a 40-50cc Husqvarna and 14" b/c. 90 % of the time the saws weight was on the log. The speed and smoothness he delimbed those trees was unbelieveable, with no stubs or deep cuts into the log. Working like this he could work 8 hrs a day without breaking a sweat.
The paint was completely worn off the underside and the side cover of the saw. I can only imagine what he could have done if he had todays high speed Husqvarna 346XP NE. He would probably have a big smile on his face.
I got well over 100 tanks through my new 346XP now and its still amazing me every day! I have had my brand new 395XP/32" for 3 months now and I still haven't put fuel in it, still sitting on my work bench all pretty without a scratch on it, just nice to look at. The 346,372 and MS200 are doing all the work for me.

Willard

LeifR

You'r right. That is the tecnique used in Scandinavia. Much better explained than in my post.
Leif.

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Willard Holmen

I have some old training videos of Sweden's Soren Eriksson , one video shows his demonstration of the 6 point limbing technique. Working down the stem of a felled conifer he pivots the saw with 14 inch b/c in all different angles cutting limbs with precision with not one movement wasted. The whole time the saw is rested on the log sliding along.He uses the saws' torque rotational inertia movements to start the cut of each limb with little physical effort on his own part. When he finishes the #6 cut he runs the saw under the stem cutting the bottom limbs out to arms length and then starts over again on top of the log starting again at #1. His tape measure is pinned to the butt of the tree and as he delimbs he bucks the tree into lengths. A bar & chain longer then 14-15 inchs would be completely useless in this type of work.
He goes on in other videos where he hand piles his cut to length 8 foot pulpwood without picking up one piece off the ground , all logs are pivoted ,turned,pulled into place with his puphook. Every tree is felled in a certain way onto each other to utilize his planned piling. Piles have to be in rows so the forwarder machine can efficiently load them up.
If I was more handy with my computer I would post them in the video section, but I think I would have to transfer them to DVD first.
Willard.

Tarzan

Alway's have called them bars...bar and chain. I am always quick to point out to my friends that the pro's call them bars, as a blade is for a knife. Now I have a question...Who says "falling" timber, and who says "felling"? I have been a professional timber "faller" all my life, and never heard it used as "felling" timber, however I have noticed that most of the guys on these arborist forums use this version;

Cody

Eric Frei

LOL, then to add to confusion there's a lot of slang, around here you're a fella ... means you're a bloke.

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Tarzan

Not meaning to add to confusion, lol, just spent all my life around a different crowd of slang users; guys that would have thought I was a bloke if I referred to my job as a timber "felling" job.

Cody

windthrown

Yah, these fellers here see, they call themselves timber fallers, not fellers.

I see and read it as often as not: some fall trees, and some fell trees. I think the proper term is to fell, but in trying to communicate with other fallers, and tree butchers, I say fall a tree more now.

Therrin

The way I learned it,

A tree falls on its own, when you do it, it's felling.

The real goose is people who call their tree services things like "Tree Fellers"

Which I was leaning towards until someone mentioned that it reminded them of a bunch of gay men running around cutting up trees... at which point it ground to a complete halt.

windthrown

He's a lumberjack and he's OK,
He sleeps all night and he might be gay!

Must be a Kaliphornia thing. Or a Portland thing. Gay tree cutters. My neighbor here is gay. My GF gets really irritated when his butt crack shows when he is out gardening in his yard. She makes puking sounds when she sees that. I just ignore him.

Bruce Hopf

We have always called them Guide Bars. That is what my Great Uncle, my Uncle and my Dad called them. Bruce.

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windthrown

Guide bar? That's were I go right after a white water river trip that I have guided a group of kayakers down.

Bruce Hopf

I always remember my Great Uncle, and my Dad calling them Chain Guide Bars. Isn't that what they called them back in the day of the old Two Man Chain Saws? I remember hearing the stories about using the Two Man Chain Saws, by my Dad, and Great Uncle. Bruce.

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windthrown

Here they were always chainsaw bars. When I lived on a sheep ranch in the Coast Range of central Oregon, there was a woman a few miles from us with a logging museum. She had calk boots and old hand saws, and two man chainsaws, springboards, and other falling equipment. She also had a few of the early model one man wonders (what they first called the original modern chainsaws here). She had a lot of photos, and knew a lot of the slang used here by the old timers. She was in her 90s when she died a few years ago.

Gypo Logger

If some call them blades, do they also say Blade Oil? lol
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