bought a saw

osb_mail · 26th November 2007, 09:19 PM

I dont usually get to happy about buying saw but I got a good deal today .I bought a used 025 stihl for $80 pawn shop .Felt like it had good compression at the shop so I bought the pawn shop owner said it would not start but pulled very hard .I got it to friends house pulled it 4 times ran great . This saw still has 99% of original paint on the bar .The saw has 140 pounds of compression .

Ekka · 26th November 2007, 10:00 PM

Great little saw, out of all the home owner series saws that one is a little hummer.

If you get the chance to, convert it over to 3/8 picco chain with 3/8 sprocket and 16" bar. Usually they run 0.325" guage which sucks, once swapped it's like a BIG 200T.

Also, the front of the muffler comes off, open it up and take the guaze out, then get a screw drive and pry open those "gills a tad" ... retune as it will be screaming.

Now do those 2 mods and you got a great saw. I get around 2 years plus out of them professional use, being fully plastic the palms dont knock them around much.

Good saw, remember the above mods.

mdvaden · 30th November 2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

Great little saw, out of all the home owner series saws that one is a little hummer.

If you get the chance to, convert it over to 3/8 picco chain with 3/8 sprocket and 16" bar. Usually they run 0.325" guage which sucks, once swapped it's like a BIG 200T.

Also, the front of the muffler comes off, open it up and take the guaze out, then get a screw drive and pry open those "gills a tad" ... retune as it will be screaming.

Now do those 2 mods and you got a great saw. I get around 2 years plus out of them professional use, being fully plastic the palms dont knock them around much.

Good saw, remember the above mods.

Yeah... the ol' gauze issue

That's one of the sneakiest ways for a saw to "peter-out". I even took mine to a saw shop once and it slipped-by them for about 15 minutes until they saw a light bulb in their minds, then remembered about that spark arresting screen.

newguy18 · 1st December 2007, 09:19 PM

Post some pics please.

Therrin · 2nd December 2007, 01:43 AM

Bought an MS200T.... used. Not overly impressed. Been using an 011 up till now for my in-tree saw. The 200 is comfy to handle, but seems pretty underpowered. I've got a 12" bar on my 011, and a 16" on my MS200. Maybe that's all it is. <shrugs>

Whats the best bar for the MS200T?

newguy18 · 2nd December 2007, 06:31 AM

I wouldn't go with bigger than a 14" on a 200t.

osb_mail · 2nd December 2007, 03:57 PM

Here is a picture of my 80 dollar saw

newguy18 · 2nd December 2007, 04:33 PM

Any mods done to it yet?

osb_mail · 2nd December 2007, 04:57 PM

yeah I took out muff screen and opened it up a little I think I am going to change the chain like ekka said when I get a chance .

newguy18 · 2nd December 2007, 05:39 PM

yeah it should only take about a half hour to change a sprocket bar and chain.Its pretty simple.Before it burnt up I changed my 141 to a 325 pitch and it didn't slow it down any.That isn't what burnt it up though what happened was the little rubber tube thats in between the jug and air filter broke and it let saw dust in everytime I cut until I was cutting some firewood and all of a sudden it came to a hard suddden stop and it siezed up tight as a drum so I took it home and tore it down and cleaned every inch of it and when I get to it I'll rebuild it.

pomme · 3rd December 2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Therrin

Bought an MS200T.... used. Not overly impressed. Been using an 011 up till now for my in-tree saw. The 200 is comfy to handle, but seems pretty underpowered. I've got a 12" bar on my 011, and a 16" on my MS200. Maybe that's all it is. <shrugs>

Whats the best bar for the MS200T?

IMO a 12" bar is best

Ekka · 3rd December 2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by osb_mail

yeah I took out muff screen and opened it up a little

I hope you retuned it.

I run 200T with that 14" lightweight Stihl bar, it's a lil ripper.

osb_mail · 3rd December 2007, 02:10 PM

No not yet, any certain number of turns on the screws or just do it by ear ?

newguy18 · 3rd December 2007, 02:21 PM

You can do it by ear if you have done it before but if its your first time I highly recomend using a tach.

windthrown · 3rd December 2007, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

If you get the chance to, convert it over to 3/8 picco chain with 3/8 sprocket and 16" bar. Usually they run 0.325" guage which sucks, once swapped it's like a BIG 200T.

$80 for a $300 saw? Good find that! Around here the pawn shops all want about 99% of new list price for used Stihls.

I have several in that series of Stihl saws (021/210, 023/230, 025/250). And as said by Ekka, the .325 is a sucky gauge bar and chain size. I have both a 16 and 18 inch in .325 b&c's. Even when they are razor sharp they have such a fat kerf swath that they bog in larger wood. I call them the wood massagers. The picco has a better narrow kerf, and I have a 16 inch picco B&C and sprocket on the 210 now. They all run better that way. I am going to off my .325 bars, chains and sprockets and replace them all with picco sets.

As for modding these guys, be careful about getting them too lean. The screwdriver muffler mod is an easy one to do, just bend open the vents more. I leave the screens in 'cause we have serious fire control here in summer months. But you will also need to break the limiter tab off the H screw on the carb (if it has one) and open it up to about 1 turn to richen it up a bit. The L screw can be opened up to about 1-1/4 turn. Some fiddeling will be required, depending on how far you open up the muffler.

osb_mail · 3rd December 2007, 03:33 PM

Yeah I am with about pawn usually rip off but this was a deal . I went to another pawn shop today and they had a 034 for 99 dollars the guy said it had a broken dust cover when he pointed at the muffler and it kind of felt low on compression I was thinking about buying it for something to fix up . I always check the air filter covers on saws before even think about buying a used saw just to make nobody got a call if stolen # in it .The 025 pawn shop guy must have been kind of a sissy he said it pulled to hard for him .

windthrown · 3rd December 2007, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osb_mail

Yeah I am with about pawn usually rip off but this was a deal . I went to another pawn shop today and they had a 034 for 99 dollars the guy said it had a broken dust cover when he pointed at the muffler and it kind of felt low on compression I was thinking about buying it for something to fix up . I always check the air filter covers on saws before even think about buying a used saw just to make nobody got a call if stolen # in it .The 025 pawn shop guy must have been kind of a sissy he said it pulled to hard for him .

Well, the 025 has some bite to it, if you start it on the ground. Drop starting is pretty easy... I drop start all my saws. Supposed to be a bad habit, but it is the only way to start the mid to smaller size saws, really.

A hard pull on the 025 is a good sign of great compression though. The dealer could have gotten $175 for that saw on Ebay.

26th November 2007, 09:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
osb_mail Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 201	bought a saw I dont usually get to happy about buying saw but I got a good deal today .I bought a used 025 stihl for $80 pawn shop .Felt like it had good compression at the shop so I bought the pawn shop owner said it would not start but pulled very hard .I got it to friends house pulled it 4 times ran great . This saw still has 99% of original paint on the bar .The saw has 140 pounds of compression .

26th November 2007, 10:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,915	Re: bought a saw Great little saw, out of all the home owner series saws that one is a little hummer. If you get the chance to, convert it over to 3/8 picco chain with 3/8 sprocket and 16" bar. Usually they run 0.325" guage which sucks, once swapped it's like a BIG 200T. Also, the front of the muffler comes off, open it up and take the guaze out, then get a screw drive and pry open those "gills a tad" ... retune as it will be screaming. Now do those 2 mods and you got a great saw. I get around 2 years plus out of them professional use, being fully plastic the palms dont knock them around much. Good saw, remember the above mods. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

1st December 2007, 09:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
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Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,273	Re: bought a saw Bought an MS200T.... used. Not overly impressed. Been using an 011 up till now for my in-tree saw. The 200 is comfy to handle, but seems pretty underpowered. I've got a 12" bar on my 011, and a 16" on my MS200. Maybe that's all it is. <shrugs> Whats the best bar for the MS200T? __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

2nd December 2007, 06:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,677	Re: bought a saw I wouldn't go with bigger than a 14" on a 200t. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

2nd December 2007, 03:57 PM	#7 (permalink)
osb_mail Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 201	Re: bought a saw Here is a picture of my 80 dollar saw

2nd December 2007, 04:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,677	Re: bought a saw Any mods done to it yet? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

2nd December 2007, 04:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
osb_mail Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 201	Re: bought a saw yeah I took out muff screen and opened it up a little I think I am going to change the chain like ekka said when I get a chance .

2nd December 2007, 05:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,677	Re: bought a saw yeah it should only take about a half hour to change a sprocket bar and chain.Its pretty simple.Before it burnt up I changed my 141 to a 325 pitch and it didn't slow it down any.That isn't what burnt it up though what happened was the little rubber tube thats in between the jug and air filter broke and it let saw dust in everytime I cut until I was cutting some firewood and all of a sudden it came to a hard suddden stop and it siezed up tight as a drum so I took it home and tore it down and cleaned every inch of it and when I get to it I'll rebuild it. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

3rd December 2007, 02:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
osb_mail Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 201	Re: bought a saw No not yet, any certain number of turns on the screws or just do it by ear ?

3rd December 2007, 02:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,677	Re: bought a saw You can do it by ear if you have done it before but if its your first time I highly recomend using a tach. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

3rd December 2007, 03:33 PM	#16 (permalink)
osb_mail Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 201	Re: bought a saw Yeah I am with about pawn usually rip off but this was a deal . I went to another pawn shop today and they had a 034 for 99 dollars the guy said it had a broken dust cover when he pointed at the muffler and it kind of felt low on compression I was thinking about buying it for something to fix up . I always check the air filter covers on saws before even think about buying a used saw just to make nobody got a call if stolen # in it .The 025 pawn shop guy must have been kind of a sissy he said it pulled to hard for him .