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16th September 2008, 10:01 AM
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| Mature tree  Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Jersey, USA
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|  Bar and Chain Oil
Who uses high grade bar and chain oil? I had an old boss from a landscaping company who only used SAE-30 automobile motor oil in his saws for bar and chain lubrication. He claimed that it was just as good, cheap and readily available more so than professional chainsaw oils. Does anyone agree? Are cheap motor oils just as good for 1/2 the price?
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16th September 2008, 02:20 PM
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| Part of the Furniture  Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
The only real differnce is bar oil has tackifiers,which help it cling to the bar and chain better,other than that motor oil is just as good but it is also thinner so you'll go through it quicker so in the long run you'd be better off with regular bar oil.He can buy bar oil at any auto zone or advance auto parts,hell walmart and lowes sells it.
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16th September 2008, 04:01 PM
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| Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Those scabby motor oil guys ... 
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16th September 2008, 07:36 PM
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| Sappling Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mid Nth. Coast, NSW
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Hey! What about the scrooges that will only use old engine oil out of the tractor for bar oil?  Personally I prefer used tractor transmission oil, no black spots on the clean washing that's hanging on the clothesline near the firewood heap/snake hilton.  I can hear Ekka coughing already!  Dennis. |
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16th September 2008, 07:40 PM
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| Bayside Tree Care Brisbane  Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
I was under the impression that motor oil was alot more damaging to surrounding plant life than chain oil and didn't give the chain and bar sufficient lubrication, causing excessive wear, On 75% of my jobs we have to use Bio oil, due to ponds, local flora, fauna and forrestry commission rules on some sites. Motor oil is just unexcuseable really
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16th September 2008, 07:57 PM
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| Sappling Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mid Nth. Coast, NSW
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Bio-oil? Please explain? Is this a vegetable based oil or one of the exotic synthetics? Dennis. |
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16th September 2008, 08:09 PM
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| Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
We use a vegatable based oil its better for the environment i use this one its the pdf fact sheet for h/s.
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16th September 2008, 08:36 PM
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| Mature tree  Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Ca.
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
They used to sell a sunflower seed based bar oil at a local shop here...not no more, (new) guy at the shop said they never had it, never heard of it... ...Bas###ds! Found this in a pdf earlier, check it. Quote:
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16th September 2008, 09:27 PM
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia.
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
I use this one, Fuchs Planto bar lube, it's at the bottem of the page. I buy the 20 litre drums, ends up not that expensive. Biodegradable Fuchs Australasia Oil & Lubricants |
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16th September 2008, 09:29 PM
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| Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Why buy it when you can go to the fish & chip shop, spend your money on a feed and take their old fryer oil for free   And when you get hungry on the job you can eat the crusties out of the oil drum Just stirrin  |
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16th September 2008, 10:04 PM
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| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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Um....I just use Stihl's bar & chain oil. I've got both their normal stuff, and their bio-oil type stuff. Boring, eh? Stihl brand and all? yeah.... |
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16th September 2008, 10:25 PM
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Bar and chain oil here is about the same price as motor oil. We buy it in 205 litre (50 US gal) drums, works out about $4 per litre.
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17th September 2008, 11:53 AM
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
I've only ever used motor oil when in a pinch,you know when a certain groundy forgets to remind me we're low and i end up useing the quart of oil i keep just in case my truck is running low.
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17th September 2008, 12:52 PM
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| Former Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Perth
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
My groundies have a unique approach to bar lubrication. It is their belief that my $270 saw-proof pants require regular lubrication. To this end, they do not always lock-close the oil fill caps on various saws. My pants are well lubricated. |
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17th September 2008, 11:12 PM
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| Mature tree  Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Behind Your Sister!
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17th September 2008, 11:32 PM
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kununurra WA
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i've got 60 ltrs of used hydraulic oil from the chipper,it is clean,do you reckon if it was shandied 50/50 with stihl bar oil it would be ok?
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17th September 2008, 11:47 PM
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| Former Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Perth
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Thats stuff makes ripper sunscreen too!!!! | |
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18th September 2008, 05:40 AM
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| Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Ca.
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Read something about used motor oil being REALLY bad for your skin. Worse than new motor oil. Ya'll ever heard that? |
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18th September 2008, 06:10 AM
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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i've heard about it,but in the 8 years i was a mechanic,it never hurt my skin.
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18th September 2008, 06:18 AM
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| Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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Some people get bad dermertitice from prolonged contact due to the residues in the oil. it's a bad condition that can eventualy lead to rusty nuts
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18th September 2008, 07:32 AM
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| Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Ca.
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Dang... |
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19th September 2008, 08:29 AM
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| Certificate in Horticulture (Level 4) + Diploma in Arboriculture (Level 6)  Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Zealand
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i used refined bar oil now because the normal stuff is so damn expensive!! just put the price up on stihl bar lube, 110.00 + gst for 20 litres!! i buy refined stuff at $50 for 20 litres, its only for lubrication afterall.
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19th September 2008, 09:18 PM
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| Mature tree Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Jersey, USA
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
After reading these posts I'm starting to think that any oil will likely suffice in keeping the bar/chain well lubricated. Seems that there may be other factors which can influence using special oils, i.e.- environmental issues. Does standard bar oil have any effect on a tree when you make cuts during a pruning operation? |
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20th September 2008, 01:24 AM
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
A friend of mine uses atf[automatic tranny fluid]in his saw.
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20th September 2008, 09:04 AM
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| Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Ca.
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I haven't heard of Traditional bar/chain oil being more harmful, but it won't decompose as fast as bio-oil. 2 cycle/air pollution may stick to oil and won't wash away as fast, remain longer? Read this recently... Quote:
Here's a product that looked interesting...beef oil? https://www.nosmokeoil.com/ | |
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20th September 2008, 09:05 AM
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| Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Ca.
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Seems like this stuff would be very important in areas with high water table...
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20th September 2008, 05:31 PM
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| Former Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Perth
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
I know zip about that negative effects of respective oils but I do know that bar oil throws a long way. I often ask people to cover their outdoor ponds when I am pruning. I have seen oil film on ponds 10m away from a job and have no recollection of even pointing the bar that way.
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20th September 2008, 09:59 PM
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| Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Thats why we both cover all surrounding ponds Where possible and use bio oil as it kills koi carp at an alarming rate and they are really expensive to rebuy.
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20th September 2008, 10:02 PM
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| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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Wait....the bio-oil kills carp?
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21st September 2008, 03:33 AM
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl
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| Re: Bar and Chain Oil
Yep, 
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