im sold out

willietd2 · 15th November 2007, 08:12 PM

last year i sold fire wood for 110.00 a cord and had a little left over. this year i priced it at 140.00 a cord and im already sold out. i guess the gas prices has got people fed up. oh well were still cutting for next year. willie

shaggs · 15th November 2007, 08:29 PM

G'day Willi,
I guess SOME price rises are good.
In Australia we sell firewood by the cubic meter. Some even state that we have to sell it by the tonne, as this is a more measurable figure for the customer.
Just to clarify, what is the conversion from cord to cubic meter?? Anyone?
All the american firewood processor advertise their machinery this way.

treestyle · 16th November 2007, 12:29 AM

where you getting the wood? from arb type work? forestry or you just clean felling land for fire wood?

Thanks

Ekka · 16th November 2007, 12:30 AM

Here's an online conversion tool

Cords to Cubic Meters Conversion Calculator

And 1 cords = 3.62455636 cubic meters

A cord is 128 cubic feet of wood stacked tightly. This is typically stacked 4? high by 4? wide by 8? long (4X4X8).

Ekka · 16th November 2007, 12:32 AM

Down in Sydney and Melbourne, how much do you get on average for m3 of say ironbark or red gum?

shaggs · 16th November 2007, 03:13 AM

Treestyle, the wood comes from tree removals. We dont cut trees specifically for firewood, its just a by product that we store and sell. Obviously some trees are better than others and depends on the tree removal site and time if we chip the lot or block it for firewood.
Per m3 of firewood, cut, dried, split and delivered...$100 mixed hardwood to $140 ironbark and good hardwoods.
I have heard of people paying up to $200m3 for premium hardwoods for specific applications such as woodfired pizza shops with specific size requirements.
Every now and then we have a "weird" request, ie radiata pine because he liked the crackling, or camphor because they liked the aroma!!!!

Quintrex · 16th November 2007, 04:13 AM

We charge $80 M3 picked up plus $20 delivery ie; 1 M3 $100, 4 M3 $340

newguy18 · 16th November 2007, 08:25 PM

I sold a 1/8 cord for $10 today.It was all mayberry,chokecherry,cedar,and some pecan.If its not pine people will buy it.

a_lopa · 16th November 2007, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Down in Sydney and Melbourne, how mych do you get on average for m3 of say ironbark or red gum?

around $100 m down here or local gum $80.

newguy18 · 16th November 2007, 09:06 PM

how does gum burn compared to other wood?

Ekka · 17th November 2007, 01:12 AM

Dried gum is generally good. Ironbark is PREMO, nice and hot, lasts well.

The word around town on gum is if it's red inside then she's a thumbs up, if it's that white crap like Cadaghi or Flooded Gum ... not so good!

Another common one that burns hot and slow, black wattle, hard as concrete to cut the bugger too.

newguy18 · 17th November 2007, 10:33 AM

okay just wondering.

bigshea13 · 17th November 2007, 12:37 PM

here in ny they sell it primarily by face cord. thats only 4x8 for 40 cut split and dried. most everyone up this way has a woodstove.

shaggs · 18th November 2007, 02:40 PM

Like you said Ekka, black wattle is a great timber for burning...especially if the borers have been thru it!!!!
Trouble we find is, unless the timber has the words "box" or "ironbark" in them the customers wont buy it!! Ahh well, just have to keep them for myself.

Therrin · 19th November 2007, 01:17 AM

I've got a whole yard of stuff that's seasoning
(the advantages to living on someone's ranch)

Yesterday I sold half a cord of beautifully seasoned Heritage Oak for $150.
I've a client who has several dead on her property, and, she even went and obtained all the permits!!

treevet · 20th December 2007, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

I've got a whole yard of stuff that's seasoning
(the advantages to living on someone's ranch)

Yesterday I sold half a cord of beautifully seasoned Heritage Oak for $150.
I've a client who has several dead on her property, and, she even went and obtained all the permits!!

Wondered what kind of permits she had to get Therrin? No such thing around here. I ve had people complain when I am removing a structurally shot tree in my town. My response is to call the city to see if they want to give an opinion and they don t even call back as I m sure they don t want to be liable if tree crashes. They don t have anyone w any background to make a judgement but I am sure they would pass even if they did for fear of liability.

windthrown · 20th December 2007, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willietd2

last year i sold fire wood for 110.00 a cord and had a little left over. this year i priced it at 140.00 a cord and im already sold out. i guess the gas prices has got people fed up. oh well were still cutting for next year. willie

Hell, $140 a cord is CHEAP! That is what wood was here last year. This year its up to $190. In Portland it up to $300!!!! I have 2 truckloads of logs felled from a thinning project we are doing here, but I am going to cut it up into firewood, as that is more valuable than selling it for lumber. Timber prices are way down around here right now. Mills are laying off.

olyman · 26th December 2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windthrown

Hell, $140 a cord is CHEAP! That is what wood was here last year. This year its up to $190. In Portland it up to $300!!!! I have 2 truckloads of logs felled from a thinning project we are doing here, but I am going to cut it up into firewood, as that is more valuable than selling it for lumber. Timber prices are way down around here right now. Mills are laying off.

thinking of this--maybe i should buy a box trailer to put behind my brothers semi---and haul a whole load of split and dried ash out your way-----that same load around here sells for 50.00!!!!!!

15th November 2007, 08:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
willietd2 Break'n the ice Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: OHIO Posts: 5	im sold out last year i sold fire wood for 110.00 a cord and had a little left over. this year i priced it at 140.00 a cord and im already sold out. i guess the gas prices has got people fed up. oh well were still cutting for next year. willie

15th November 2007, 08:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
shaggs Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 459	Re: im sold out G'day Willi, I guess SOME price rises are good. In Australia we sell firewood by the cubic meter. Some even state that we have to sell it by the tonne, as this is a more measurable figure for the customer. Just to clarify, what is the conversion from cord to cubic meter?? Anyone? All the american firewood processor advertise their machinery this way.

16th November 2007, 12:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
treestyle Fly'n Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 119	Re: im sold out where you getting the wood? from arb type work? forestry or you just clean felling land for fire wood? Thanks

16th November 2007, 12:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: im sold out Here's an online conversion tool Cords to Cubic Meters Conversion Calculator And 1 cords = 3.62455636 cubic meters A cord is 128 cubic feet of wood stacked tightly. This is typically stacked 4? high by 4? wide by 8? long (4X4X8). __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

16th November 2007, 12:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: im sold out Down in Sydney and Melbourne, how much do you get on average for m3 of say ironbark or red gum? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

16th November 2007, 03:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
shaggs Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 459	Re: im sold out Treestyle, the wood comes from tree removals. We dont cut trees specifically for firewood, its just a by product that we store and sell. Obviously some trees are better than others and depends on the tree removal site and time if we chip the lot or block it for firewood. Per m3 of firewood, cut, dried, split and delivered...$100 mixed hardwood to $140 ironbark and good hardwoods. I have heard of people paying up to $200m3 for premium hardwoods for specific applications such as woodfired pizza shops with specific size requirements. Every now and then we have a "weird" request, ie radiata pine because he liked the crackling, or camphor because they liked the aroma!!!!

16th November 2007, 04:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
Quintrex Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 414	Re: im sold out We charge $80 M3 picked up plus $20 delivery ie; 1 M3 $100, 4 M3 $340

16th November 2007, 08:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,200	Re: im sold out I sold a 1/8 cord for $10 today.It was all mayberry,chokecherry,cedar,and some pecan.If its not pine people will buy it. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

16th November 2007, 09:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,200	Re: im sold out how does gum burn compared to other wood? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

17th November 2007, 01:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: im sold out Dried gum is generally good. Ironbark is PREMO, nice and hot, lasts well. The word around town on gum is if it's red inside then she's a thumbs up, if it's that white crap like Cadaghi or Flooded Gum ... not so good! Another common one that burns hot and slow, black wattle, hard as concrete to cut the bugger too. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

17th November 2007, 10:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,200	Re: im sold out okay just wondering. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

17th November 2007, 12:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
bigshea13 Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: hiding Posts: 388	Re: im sold out here in ny they sell it primarily by face cord. thats only 4x8 for 40 cut split and dried. most everyone up this way has a woodstove.

18th November 2007, 02:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
shaggs Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 459	Re: im sold out Like you said Ekka, black wattle is a great timber for burning...especially if the borers have been thru it!!!! Trouble we find is, unless the timber has the words "box" or "ironbark" in them the customers wont buy it!! Ahh well, just have to keep them for myself.

19th November 2007, 01:17 AM	#15 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,113	Re: im sold out I've got a whole yard of stuff that's seasoning (the advantages to living on someone's ranch) Yesterday I sold half a cord of beautifully seasoned Heritage Oak for $150. I've a client who has several dead on her property, and, she even went and obtained all the permits!! __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703