Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table

Ekka · 25th December 2007, 01:01 PM

Check out the slide show on this table, even shows the milling etc.

Antiques & Reproductions For Sale: ONE PIECE BLUE GUM SLAB TABLE on Trading Post Online

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ONE PIECE BLUE GUM SLAB TABLE Length 16ft 10in, width 5ft 8in at widest end. Weight Slab Table (approx 1900Kg), Slab Thickness 3.5inch, Height floor to underside of table 2ft 4in. Seats 30. 2-pack Estapol Finish, highlights the Tiger Grain strip pattern. milled from a dead Blue Gum on property at Esk. Timber fumigated to ensure no timber pests. $20,000

(07)32057401, (0421)389097, STRATHPINE
STATE: QLD FIRST PUBLISHED: 28 Nov 2007

Beautiful isn't it.

shaggs · 25th December 2007, 02:40 PM

Does it include the carton of XXXX???

Sean Freeman · 25th December 2007, 03:51 PM

You'd have to pay me the 20K to drink that drain cleaner!

(and even then I'd sell it on to someone else!)

Ekka · 25th December 2007, 05:13 PM

It is 16' long, maybe Ole Queen in Windsor Castle needs a new table for the servants.

jim1nz · 25th December 2007, 05:38 PM

Yea 20k haha, remember is only worth what some mug is prepared to pay for it...

Ekka · 25th December 2007, 05:41 PM

It is a darned nice looking table though and even with the seats he used the natural fork/branch location to his advantage.

I reckon he might get $10K to $15K due to the size.

JayD · 25th December 2007, 08:15 PM

I like it but not $20.ooo grands worth, I think from...mmm..maybe...$2500 to about maybe, $5000..?. But you never know there's a definate market out there, I was talking the wood bloke at timber town he was saying he sells slabs all the time....besides I'd have to put in my gararge it's the only place it would fit at my home!..LOL.

TrevMcRev · 25th December 2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JayD

besides I'd have to put in my gararge it's the only place it would fit at my home!..LOL.

And probly the only place that would support the 1900kg loading. I'd fit in my dining room, but i think it'd go straight through the floor!

olyman · 26th December 2007, 09:29 AM

ekka---what is estapol finish???--the same as what in the usa?????? we have varnish, and polyurethane-------------and 20 bills---we need some of what he is smoking!!!!!!!!! must be good stuff!!!!!

bigshea13 · 26th December 2007, 11:43 AM

can you smoke blue gum?

my grandfather is into making "adirondack" furniture. he uses alot of stick that have been chewed by beaver as well as lumber he has sawed .unless thats one of the last trees of its kind it wouldnt be worth it to me but...someone with a large wallet and no conscience may snatch it right up. you just have to get it out there to be seen by as many as possible. must admit...it is perdy!

Ekka · 26th December 2007, 12:36 PM

Estapol is a timber varnish, polyurethane.

Many types to choose from, indoors, outdoors, marine, gloss, flat finish etc.

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mdvaden · 26th December 2007, 12:54 PM

I'd say it's worth at least 10K for starters. So even if it was 100% mark-up, that's not bad.

I used to build furniture and do woodworking when I was in high school - about 6 years worth. At one of Portland Oregon's big malls, I won the design trophy for one of my small tables.

For starters, I'd consider what a professional is worth for a month's salary. I think that 5K per month is the bottom rung for a craftsman, let alone an experienced one, especially if they own the business. And that's wage - not any consideration to equipment.

So when I sit here looking at that table, and think about the time it takes to:

1. Cut and mill the wood
2. Age the wood
3. Joint, plane or cut the wood
4. Fine-tune the joints
5. Fasten
6. Sand, and sand, and sand.
7. Finish it, sand more, finish it, sand more, finish it, etc., etc.

Seems that 10K to 12K might be the low end.

Let alone that the pieces for the benches are not easy to come by. The flat plank sections are probably a lot easier to cut, or come-by, than the end bench legs.

So 20K is probably very realistic for a high-end furniture store.

A lot will depend on how much time was put into small details, and how well it was fastened and finished. Including "was it sanded underneath the table top?" Some tables are not sanded beneath, but a nice one will be. A high-end furniture maker may even finish the underside with a Tung-oil or something, rather than leave it as bare wood.

Also, which furniture that large, simply moving the pieces and sections and sections alone, is worth hundreds in itself - just that one aspect. It's not where just one man moves, flips or hangs a small chair or chessboard to sanding, spraying or blowing dust from the grain with the air nozzle.

Each leg of the long benches would be an easy 90 degreen cut, if those were giant machined dowel rods. But they are not dowel rods. They are sections of trees, which are irregular. There could be up to an hour of time, just to wood-word the end of each leg with saws, sanders and chisels, so that it butts-up perfectly square to the bench, and then to the floor. And then each leg has to be nearly perfect, otherwise a high center leg, even if just a 1/4" high, forms a small teeter-totter effect. If any one leg is wood-worked 1/4" too short, it's a discard. So anywhere up to a full workshift could be required to do nothing else but get the legs fitted. Time could be a lot less, but not unless we want to be talking about a table only worth 7K.

I can't see the underside, but if I was building that, there would be a fairly strong framework hidden beneath to reduce future warping.

Custom furniture is what I would be doing right now, had the super fine wood dust from shop saws and sanders not caused so many pimples on my skin. Pruning saw dust is not near as dry or fine in most cases.

Ekka · 26th December 2007, 01:01 PM

I can see it going into a winery or restuarant etc.

Not too often are you going to get a 16' long slab 3.5" thick.

TrevMcRev · 26th December 2007, 02:05 PM

Yeah MDV but after all that you have to end up with a product that is sought after at a price that fits the target market. Doesnt matter how much time goes into making something if it isnt what the people want.

I reckon if it were not in the "rustic" style that it is, but instead was made into "fine furniture" then it would appeal more to the man with $20k in his pocket.

The style has limited the market to a winery or restuarant like ekka said.

But hey, someone with shedloads of $$$ might buy it just for the hell of it, because they can. I probly would, but i dont even have a shed.............

olyman · 26th December 2007, 02:40 PM

as mdvaden said--i see no bracing under the table--in other words--some cross pieces to keep it from warping--or better yet--BREAKING--you get something that wide--itll try to split or break in the middle if its handled at all wrong-----ive thought of this same thing as i have a really wide oak tree i want to do the same thing with

Ekka · 27th December 2007, 02:19 AM

Just got off the phone with Mick, he's the owner/seller of the set.

Great bloke and the table is reinforced with angle iron beneath in 5 places.

Hopefully he jumps aboard and posts some pics.

Mick also has more pics on his new website, check it out, not much on there about pest control but more great pics of this.

http://www.powerpest.com.au/

25th December 2007, 02:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table It is 16' long, maybe Ole Queen in Windsor Castle needs a new table for the servants. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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jim1nz Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table Yea 20k haha, remember is only worth what some mug is prepared to pay for it... __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

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Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table It is a darned nice looking table though and even with the seats he used the natural fork/branch location to his advantage. I reckon he might get $10K to $15K due to the size. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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JayD Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 821	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table I like it but not $20.ooo grands worth, I think from...mmm..maybe...$2500 to about maybe, $5000..?. But you never know there's a definate market out there, I was talking the wood bloke at timber town he was saying he sells slabs all the time....besides I'd have to put in my gararge it's the only place it would fit at my home!..LOL. __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

26th December 2007, 09:29 AM	#9 (permalink)
olyman Gettin' motoring Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: iowa--usa Posts: 36	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table ekka---what is estapol finish???--the same as what in the usa?????? we have varnish, and polyurethane-------------and 20 bills---we need some of what he is smoking!!!!!!!!! must be good stuff!!!!!

26th December 2007, 11:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
bigshea13 Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: hiding Posts: 388	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table can you smoke blue gum? my grandfather is into making "adirondack" furniture. he uses alot of stick that have been chewed by beaver as well as lumber he has sawed .unless thats one of the last trees of its kind it wouldnt be worth it to me but...someone with a large wallet and no conscience may snatch it right up. you just have to get it out there to be seen by as many as possible. must admit...it is perdy!

26th December 2007, 12:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table Estapol is a timber varnish, polyurethane. Many types to choose from, indoors, outdoors, marine, gloss, flat finish etc. Wattyl - Product Search - Product Search - Matching Products __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

26th December 2007, 12:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
mdvaden Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 578	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table I'd say it's worth at least 10K for starters. So even if it was 100% mark-up, that's not bad. I used to build furniture and do woodworking when I was in high school - about 6 years worth. At one of Portland Oregon's big malls, I won the design trophy for one of my small tables. For starters, I'd consider what a professional is worth for a month's salary. I think that 5K per month is the bottom rung for a craftsman, let alone an experienced one, especially if they own the business. And that's wage - not any consideration to equipment. So when I sit here looking at that table, and think about the time it takes to: 1. Cut and mill the wood 2. Age the wood 3. Joint, plane or cut the wood 4. Fine-tune the joints 5. Fasten 6. Sand, and sand, and sand. 7. Finish it, sand more, finish it, sand more, finish it, etc., etc. Seems that 10K to 12K might be the low end. Let alone that the pieces for the benches are not easy to come by. The flat plank sections are probably a lot easier to cut, or come-by, than the end bench legs. So 20K is probably very realistic for a high-end furniture store. A lot will depend on how much time was put into small details, and how well it was fastened and finished. Including "was it sanded underneath the table top?" Some tables are not sanded beneath, but a nice one will be. A high-end furniture maker may even finish the underside with a Tung-oil or something, rather than leave it as bare wood. Also, which furniture that large, simply moving the pieces and sections and sections alone, is worth hundreds in itself - just that one aspect. It's not where just one man moves, flips or hangs a small chair or chessboard to sanding, spraying or blowing dust from the grain with the air nozzle. Each leg of the long benches would be an easy 90 degreen cut, if those were giant machined dowel rods. But they are not dowel rods. They are sections of trees, which are irregular. There could be up to an hour of time, just to wood-word the end of each leg with saws, sanders and chisels, so that it butts-up perfectly square to the bench, and then to the floor. And then each leg has to be nearly perfect, otherwise a high center leg, even if just a 1/4" high, forms a small teeter-totter effect. If any one leg is wood-worked 1/4" too short, it's a discard. So anywhere up to a full workshift could be required to do nothing else but get the legs fitted. Time could be a lot less, but not unless we want to be talking about a table only worth 7K. I can't see the underside, but if I was building that, there would be a fairly strong framework hidden beneath to reduce future warping. Custom furniture is what I would be doing right now, had the super fine wood dust from shop saws and sanders not caused so many pimples on my skin. Pruning saw dust is not near as dry or fine in most cases. __________________ ____________________________________ Grove of Redwood TITANS Oregon BIGOOT trap

26th December 2007, 01:01 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table I can see it going into a winery or restuarant etc. Not too often are you going to get a 16' long slab 3.5" thick. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

26th December 2007, 02:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 672	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table Yeah MDV but after all that you have to end up with a product that is sought after at a price that fits the target market. Doesnt matter how much time goes into making something if it isnt what the people want. I reckon if it were not in the "rustic" style that it is, but instead was made into "fine furniture" then it would appeal more to the man with $20k in his pocket. The style has limited the market to a winery or restuarant like ekka said. But hey, someone with shedloads of $$$ might buy it just for the hell of it, because they can. I probly would, but i dont even have a shed............. __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

26th December 2007, 02:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
olyman Gettin' motoring Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: iowa--usa Posts: 36	Re: Is he flamin dreamin? $20K blue gum table as mdvaden said--i see no bracing under the table--in other words--some cross pieces to keep it from warping--or better yet--BREAKING--you get something that wide--itll try to split or break in the middle if its handled at all wrong-----ive thought of this same thing as i have a really wide oak tree i want to do the same thing with