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| Sappling Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oregon
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Here's a couple of pics of stuff I hauled off the hill last weekend |
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| Sappling Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: caro mi.
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Nice wood pile...what kind of wood do you have out there...is that maple? |
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| Sappling Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oregon
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This pile is mostly Alder and Hemlock. We do have some Maple on occasion, but it is not grown commercially so it is kind of scarce. Lots of Fir, Hemlock, and Alder. Alder is not the best, but it splits easily, and once dry, burns good.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Here is some Pictures of my Fire Wood Set up, for Fire wood to be sold. It is measure into 1/4 Cords (12" x 4' x 8' We call a Face Cord here in Canada Years ago, Bush Cord is 4' x 4' x 8') I had no time in the Sprig to pile the Fire Wood, so it was dumped in a pile. It is Ash, and Maple. I used my Loader Tractor, with a Stone Picking Bucket to get the Fire Wood from the Pile, instead of handling it a bunch of times. I set the Bucket on top of a couple of Saw Horses, to save Bending Over too much. We split the Fire wood to fit inside an Air tight, and then Piled it on top of Skids. The Wood Splitter I Built here. The Lumber in the Back Ground against the Barn, is Mostly Maple, and it was Logged from the Bush in the Background. The rest of the Lumber is Ash. The New 40' x 52' Implement Shed in the Back Ground, is built entirely out of the Maple that we Logged out of the Bush, and was Sawn into Lumber, by a Band Saw Mill, Owed by a Friend. Thanks. Bruce
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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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To build a shed like that do you have to get govt permission or send off plans etc? Just wondering how it works.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Kind of Stupid, but if you wanted to Erect a Mail Box on a Post, You have to Apply for a Building Permit for a Mail Box. . Bruce.
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| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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Where I Live you need a Permit to build a Structure for Anything More than 120 sq ft. So that Pretty Much limits You to Building Tool Sheds and the Like, but Nothing that is "Liveable" (haha, Though I'd Tend to Disagree with That!!) =)
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| Mature tree Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Jersey, USA
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What are those pallets made of, oak? Sitting directly on the ground do they invite termites to join the party?
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Hi Gunslinger. Those Pallets are Cheap Pallets, that I picked up at a Factory, Free for the Taking. If you step on them the right way, your Foot goes through them. I place a bunch of Moth Balls under the Skids, and that detures the Bugs, Mice, Ant's and the Snakes, from getting into the Wood. Bruce.
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| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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I've got my wood on pallets too. They're Walmart pallets though so they're pretty heavy duty. Made with 4x4's inside. Keeps the wood up off the ground, and my cat can keep the underside free of critters. Havent found termites to be any problem. I think the walmart pallets are treated.
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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I usually advise my Customers, who pile their Fire Wood out side, to pile it on Skids, ands if they have Kids, to get T Posts, and put them in with Braces, so that the Fire Wood does not Push them over, and to Pile the Wood against. That way the Fire Wood is up and off the Ground, and that the Fire Wood is Sucure, that way if the Kids do decide to Climb on the Wood Pile, they won't get Buried in the Wood, if it doesn't slide out at the Ends. Bruce.
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| ![]() These are nice because you can just pull them apart when they are empty and store for off season. About $17 plus wood at Northern Supply. |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Yes I agree, that thy are Handy, but it all depends on How Much Fire Wood, your Customer Orders, and it also depends on how much Room your Customer wants to use for Piling the Fire Wood. I thought about Building something like that to Pile Fire Wood on for Selling but I figured using T Posts, Wood Stakes for in between Cords, and Skids was a lot Easier. I can Pile my Fire Wood for selling, Cut and Split in Face Cords (12" x 4' x 8'), and they are 7 Cords Long, Piled on Skids, and I can get 3 Rows wide on the Skids, 21 Face Cords on the string of 14 Skids Used. So when I have an Order, of so many Cords by my Customer, I just load what that Customer wants to have, and I deliver it. I don't have to Measure any of it, and guess how much Fire Wood is Loaded Bruce.
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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I don't think I would like to stack it prior to selling it. We just split it and send it into a big pile off the conveyor or into a dump trailer. If from the pile we hand toss it into a bin laying on the ground then boom it with a truck crane into the dump trailer and disconnect 2 of the 4 chokers and it dumps in the trailer. Usually we just then dump on customer's property and collect. We are getting more and more requests to stack and I thought about adding a little product sales to enhance the sale. Say the brackets and lumber in the rack cost me 30 dollars, I will sell the rack put together for 60 dollars. Maybe sell some fireplace implements and bellows and wood carriers etc. Just a thought. ![]() 2 dump bins equal a pre measured cord. |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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Years ago, Dad bought a Bush of 90 Hard Maple Tops. Once we had figured out, on our 5' x 10' Tandem Axel Trailer, where one Face Cord was with it leveled in the Box, we would Mark it on the Sides, Back, and Front of the inside of the Box, and then throw another Face Cord on, and mark it. We did that until we got 4 got 4 Face Cords, or 1 Full Cord (4'x 4' x 8') loaded on the Trailer, and we delivered with the Van, and the Trailer right out of the Bush that way. The Fire Wood that we hauled home, we Piled it into Face Cords, and Sold it as Dry Fire Wood, in the Fall. I agree, if you have something, that you can throw the Fire Wood into, and know how much what ever you are using, cuts down on the Handling, of the Fire Wood. I'm just starting with a little bit of Fire Wood Sales, and I haven't had time to measure where everything is yet. I've sold all my Fire Wood Dry thus far, and cut and split it off the Splitter. Once I Split the Fire Wood, it goes into my Bale/Grain Elevator, and dumped into a Pile. I use my Loader Tractor, with a 7' Stone Picking Bucket, and scoop up the Fire Wood with it, and carry it to where I pile it. Or just park my Manure Spreader that I rigged up for Hauling the Fire Wood, and haul it to where I have set up for Piling, and Pile it off the Manure Spreader. Once I get things Figured out, It will get less Work for me too. Bruce.
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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I have seen some places that have pallets with chicken wire enclosing the top and they fill up the inside ....then they pick up the whole unit take it to customer and dump it. The least handling and work the more apt you are to keep doing it. | |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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we used to use this net system they dry really well, stack easily and you tip them off at the customers or use a hiab to put them in place, tidy and proffesional.
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Nice. Is that maybe a quarter cord? Or do you guys sell by weight?
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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Thats one cubic meter £60 each to joe public.
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| Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca
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just under half a cord. Nice... That looks like a great way of doing it. TV, no, I don't sell racks to my customers. Hadn't thought of it. Most of the people around here already have racks they put their wood on, or they stack on pallets. I have to stack the wood after cutting it, here at home, because my landlords dont want huge piles of wood just sitting around on the front of their ranch. I've got some HUGE stack's going, and my half-cord box next to it for deliveries or to measure out for people who come pick it up. The one stack is almost 10 feet wide by 25 feet long by about 5 feet high, and the other is 8 feet wide by 20 feet long by about 5 foot high. And there's still piles and piles left over....ugh. |
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| Mature tree Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Jersey, USA
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So when is the best time to split firewood? Say red oak? I'm getting all sorts of opinions from various guys about the best time to split it. 1- Right after the tree's cut down. 2- Dead of winter when wood is frozen. 3- Minimum 6 months after it's cut down allowing it to dry out and season. 4- Does not matter when you split it. |
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| Mature tree Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Jersey, USA
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What if you were splitting the stuff by hand with a maul or wedge and sledge hammer, any difference from those 4 choices? | |
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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I'd probably go with "when it is frozen" seems to break better when some interior hydraulic outward pushing. Also you won't sweat your a$$ off. |
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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How about # 5. ![]() . A wood Splitter. I used to use an Axe, and I was pretty good with it too. I could out Split the Splitter, any day of the week with a good Axe, but because of Health reasons, I had to resort to a Wood Splitter, that I built, and runs off the Hydraulics of the Tractor. Bruce.
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| ![]() Back in my non powered splitting days this 25 pound Monster maul was my favorite. If you had a huge round and were good at dropping it on the crack, that crack you could count on it travelling to the other side. Then just follow it with a few more shots. If you get this thing airborn you knew something was gonna break when it came down. Made you pretty good at ringing the bell at the fair too. |
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| Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada
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WOW. To be able to Swing That Thing, How many Bowls of Wheaties, did you have to have in the Morning, to use it all Day? . I never seen anything like that Before. Bruce.
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