Amazing safety feature

shaggs · 11th March 2008, 04:11 PM

I know this is a table saw, but its quite clever and amazing....
YouTube - THE WORLD'S SAFEST TABLE SAW - Will Not Cut your fingers!

playfordtree · 13th March 2008, 02:53 AM

That's bloody amazing!

Mind you, i will be even more convinced when i see the inventor test it by running his fingers into it.

jim1nz · 13th March 2008, 06:08 AM

Absolutely amazing, thanks.

George Hayduke · 13th March 2008, 06:49 AM

The Sawstop has been credited with saving a few digits.

What would it be like to see that sensor attached to a chipper? All it would have to do would be to stop the infeed hydraulics and reverse them.

playfordtree · 13th March 2008, 03:23 PM

Good idea George

DBS · 13th March 2008, 04:08 PM

they make a bandsaw one too!!!

Bandsaw version

-Daryl

crucificio · 14th March 2008, 02:53 PM

That looks a cool thing. I gotta better way to not loose my fingers. Get the monkey to do the dangerous jobs!!!

DBS · 14th March 2008, 06:04 PM

the trunk monkey of course!!!

-Daryl

crucificio · 15th March 2008, 02:47 PM

DBS · 15th March 2008, 06:10 PM

you do know about the Trunk Monkey dont you???

newguy i know you know!!!

Streyken · 16th March 2008, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Hayduke

The Sawstop has been credited with saving a few digits.

What would it be like to see that sensor attached to a chipper? All it would have to do would be to stop the infeed hydraulics and reverse them.

This is a good idea. Ever since the BC chipper accident in 2005, we've been talking about this. They tried adopting the mandatory bottom bump bar here, but the specifications were so specific as to give Vermeer a patent strangle hold. Hmm, wonder how they ended up talking to WorkSafeBC in the first place. Electronic tagging is used in lumber and food processing, can't see it costing that much extra either. A sensor unit and a simple aluminum tag in the gloves is all that's needed.

TreeDimensional · 16th March 2008, 08:09 PM

How do you plan on stopping the inertia of a 40+ inch diameter wheel, OR will it just stop the feed rollers? What about the old chuck and ducks? Not ALL tree companies can afford new equipment.

The employees may NOT be taught to respect the machinery. I have NEVER seen a goof-proof machine YET! I doubt that you can legislate people from making stupid choices.

Streyken · 16th March 2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeDimensional

The employees may NOT be taught to respect the machinery. I have NEVER seen a goof-proof machine YET! I doubt that you can legislate people from making stupid choices.

Agreed, but if they are going to mandate a roller stop safety feature, I want something else besides the bottom bar. The chuck n' ducks were exempt anyway. The basic idea behind tagging would be to immediately stop the rollers as soon as the tag was detected within the hopper area. This would be well before the feed rollers. A perfect solution, there isn't one, but for new machines it's a better option IMVHO.

playfordtree · 16th March 2008, 10:00 PM

What about some sort of infra-red beam that detects the heat from a human arm?
or,
the operator has to wear a special bracelet that can be detected near the feed rollers?

JayD · 17th March 2008, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Streyken

This is a good idea. Ever since the BC chipper accident in 2005, we've been talking about this. They tried adopting the mandatory bottom bump bar here, but the specifications were so specific as to give Vermeer a patent strangle hold. Hmm, wonder how they ended up talking to WorkSafeBC in the first place. Electronic tagging is used in lumber and food processing, can't see it costing that much extra either. A sensor unit and a simple aluminum tag in the gloves is all that's needed.

thats a good idea,Then also add a disc brake to the rotor shaft and you pretty much go it covered, If it saves lives...dont hola about the cost to me!

You would want the sensor before the rollers, That way it would teach you not to put your hand in there

11th March 2008, 04:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
shaggs Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 459	Amazing safety feature I know this is a table saw, but its quite clever and amazing.... YouTube - THE WORLD'S SAFEST TABLE SAW - Will Not Cut your fingers!

13th March 2008, 02:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
playfordtree Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 340	Re: Amazing safety feature That's bloody amazing! Mind you, i will be even more convinced when i see the inventor test it by running his fingers into it. __________________ I Drink Therefore I am.

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jim1nz Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: Amazing safety feature Absolutely amazing, thanks. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

13th March 2008, 06:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 93	Re: Amazing safety feature The Sawstop has been credited with saving a few digits. What would it be like to see that sensor attached to a chipper? All it would have to do would be to stop the infeed hydraulics and reverse them.

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playfordtree Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 340	Re: Amazing safety feature Good idea George __________________ I Drink Therefore I am.

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DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: Amazing safety feature they make a bandsaw one too!!! Bandsaw version -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

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crucificio Gettin' motoring Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: isle of man Posts: 30	Re: Amazing safety feature That looks a cool thing. I gotta better way to not loose my fingers. Get the monkey to do the dangerous jobs!!!

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DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: Amazing safety feature the trunk monkey of course!!! -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

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crucificio Gettin' motoring Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: isle of man Posts: 30	Re: Amazing safety feature

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DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: Amazing safety feature you do know about the Trunk Monkey dont you??? newguy i know you know!!! __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

16th March 2008, 08:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
TreeDimensional Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 381	Re: Amazing safety feature How do you plan on stopping the inertia of a 40+ inch diameter wheel, OR will it just stop the feed rollers? What about the old chuck and ducks? Not ALL tree companies can afford new equipment. The employees may NOT be taught to respect the machinery. I have NEVER seen a goof-proof machine YET! I doubt that you can legislate people from making stupid choices. __________________ West Central Saskatchewan ISA Certified Arborist

16th March 2008, 10:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
playfordtree Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Adelaide Australia Posts: 340	Re: Amazing safety feature What about some sort of infra-red beam that detects the heat from a human arm? or, the operator has to wear a special bracelet that can be detected near the feed rollers? __________________ I Drink Therefore I am.

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