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Old 11th April 2010, 11:44 PM   #61
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For we live in the Golden Age. Never has the tables been more level than now.

You'll clearly see those who stand before you ..... some as road blocks.

The man says it is mandated appropriately that all need 5 years post graduation (Level 5 Dip Arb) experience before they practice.

Fancy that.

Welcome to the world of cronies, old bastids governing your right to a job, worse than unions and mobs, tossers of yesteryear, old fashioned thoughts that should be swept away with the fallen wrinkly leaves of autumn.

Unlike other trades who also endure 3 years to 4 years of study and on the job experience they suggest when you do qualify you PISS OFF as a competitor to their market for 5 years.

They fail to recognise that many obtained their certification via RPL which takes into consideration (with evidence) their work. Imagine if you have been working with trees and acting in a consultative nature for say 15 years then gained certification .... these cronies suggest then you PISS OFF for another 5 years before you take work from their plate.

The Golden Age is here, and they hate it.

Ironically 2 Tree Doctors, one in NSW and one here in Queensland both have the same agendas, and I have posted about it here ....

Lies|QAA|Queensland Arboricultural Association

Beware, their campaign is toxic.
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Old 13th April 2010, 09:11 PM   #62
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Sigh indeed. Its the world of global public forums.

This forum is way better than some others though. At least you can complain to the owner here and he does not ban you outright for that. And he removes posts, and explains why, rather than just removing posts, and banning everyone involved.

Its a fine line as it is with cross cultural forums, and threads like this one with the humor involved. Over on another TW thread they claim I drink too much and bait me into fights... I just put those guys on my ignore list and move on.
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Drink too much etc .... I missed that, where's that.

We also have Sir Mark Hartley trolling us out, so far perhaps 7 identities caught and a couple under watch
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Old 16th April 2010, 09:17 AM   #67
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We also have Sir Mark Hartley trolling us out, so far perhaps 7 identities caught and a couple under watch
What does trolling us out mean?

"Trees are not given to us by our parents,
They are entrusted to us by our children."

That liddle ol' gem of a saying seems to ring a bell!

Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children.
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Old 16th April 2010, 05:14 PM   #68
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Here you go, there's a few definitions. when banned they return with a new fake email, new name, reset IP address and start their shit again. Behind the scenes they'll message others to support their cause etc .... general purpose is to inflame, cause problems, undermine people etc.

The moderation and detection tools of this site is pretty good so you do not see much of this, we give them the ROYAL DOOR!

In Hartley's case I'd say his personal problem is jealousy, it appears if he cannot control something then he gets spiteful. Lots of control freaks around.

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Old 26th April 2010, 10:31 PM   #70
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Why do they bother doing all that rubbish.
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Old 27th April 2010, 05:35 PM   #71
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Why do backstabbers at work do their thing? Why do people always want to bring other people down? Human nature. Greed, envy, fear, one-upsmanship.
I always wonder how or where people get the time for that crap? Then I read this kind of stuff:

While US economy burned, SEC staff surfed for porn - Yahoo! News
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Strange the activity actually took place and stabilized during the USA's most serious economic downturn in decades, very strange.

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The porn-surfing scandal at the SEC began five years ago and picked up at the start of the US economic crisis in 2008, according to the report, which has not yet been made public.

Although the porn-surfers represented less than one percent of the SEC's staff of 3,500, the report pointed out that 17 of the accused were high-ranking officials at the agency.

"More than half of the workers made between 99,000 dollars and 223,000 dollars," the report said.

Among the most serious violators, said ABC, was a senior attorney at SEC headquarters in Washington who spent up to eight hours a day accessing Internet porn.


"When he filled all the space on his government computer with pornographic images, he downloaded more to CDs and DVDs that accumulated in boxes in his offices," the television network said.

An SEC accountant -- a woman -- attempted to access porn websites 1,800 times in a two-week period and had 600 pornographic images on her computer hard drive, it said.

The probe into the porn-seeking SEC officials was carried out at the request of Republican Senator Chuck Grassley.

The report concluded that most of the porn-surfing began in 2008, just as the US financial system began to collapse, and "the problem hasn't stopped."

The SEC has come under fire in recent years for its lax policing of the financial industry, and in particular for allowing master swindler Bernard Madoff to fall between the cracks despite numerous warnings that his activities were suspect.
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An SEC accountant -- a woman -- attempted to access porn websites 1,800 times in a two-week period and had 600 pornographic images on her computer hard drive, it said.

Wasn't me!
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Old 28th April 2010, 05:34 PM   #74
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We had this Asian fellow that was an applications engineer at one company I worked for in the Silicon Valley. He had a massive data collection of nude women on one of the computer servers in the lab. Everyone knew about it at that site, and no one cared. So the VP of the comany came to the site on travel from corporate HQ, and logged into that system to do his company business remotely. We got this very terse and very demanding email company wide about 20 miutes after he logged into that system. That guy was not fired... and we never found out exactly what happened, but that server was wiped clean the next day and there was an no porn policy implemented company wide. That was in 1993 or so.

When I was later at Sun Microsystems, they did not care what you looked at as long as it was legal. No rape or snuff scenes, kiddie porn, or bestiality. As long as your work was on time they did not care. They kept track too; I wrote a shell script when I was there to do employee online web tracking that was sent to managers once a month. I also wrote a shell script for tracking who was using our design tools. It was for system management, but one day we started getting status emails from outside the company from someone using our software design tools. We handed the information over to the FBI, and within 2 days they shut down a start-up company that was staffed with ex-Sun people, and they were using all our design tools that they had stolen from us. They did not know that the software design tools had wrapper scripts (shell scripts invoked that did tracking and invoked the tools remotely). Open and shut case, they were sent to jail. I got a fat bonus for that one.
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Eric your real talent is coming out with these cartoons,
nice one windthown! what are you doing tree working when you could / should be earning a large paypacket in computer software?
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Old 29th April 2010, 06:26 AM   #76
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Laid off of my high tech job over 5 years ago. My job was off-shored to China. Economy is in the toilet, and no one is hiring. I sold my house in the Silly Valley and moved north where its a lot cheaper to live. However, there are fewer tech jobs up here. Also I am a hardware developer, though its all designed using software these days. I do some consulting and contract work, but it has been really thin in the last 2 years. So I bought another chipper last year, and I do tree work to pay the rent. Though that has gotten thin as well with the competition, and with the high unemployment rate here no one has money for tree work.

Its that bad... even as a Gypo tree butcher.
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You should immigrate to Australia. Everyone else does!

I think we're doing ok though, unemployment is at an all time low last I heard.

The financial thing is a bit messy sometimes, I think our government of the moment wastes a lot of it with wacky schemes. I wish I ran the country, I would sort things out in no time.

I think I'm a bit vicious though. I would hang lots, whip others for being lazy, deport a lot of immigrants, throw all the druggies in a padded cell till they worked it out, and sort the women who have 10 kids to 10 different fathers.

No wonder no-one votes for me.
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You should immigrate to Australia. Everyone else does!
I looked into it, but I do not have enough points to immigrate! My cousin has opened a Mexican restaurant in Adelaide, so maybe I can emigrate as a cook there?
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You need points? how do you get points? play monopoly or something?

I think you just need a leaky old boat to get here! that's how most of them seem to do it.
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No, immigration to Oz is restricted. There are web sites that you can log into and they factor in your age, English skills, education, work experience, critical skills needed in Oz, family in Oz, and corporate sponsorship. NZ is similar, but I have enough points to immigrate there. I do not know how the Islanders do it, but anyone on the up and up have a harder time of it.

Here is one of the immigration to Oz points sites:

Australia Skilled Immigration Points Calculator

I filled it out, and I got this:

Unfortunately you do not meet basic requirements for immigration to Australia under skilled immigrant category.
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The Islanders go to New Zealand, then come here, a lot come on visa's and just stay here illegally. They round them up now and then. Same with a lot of the asians. They say they're on holidays and just stay.

You could do that anyway, immigrate to NZ and once you are a NZ citizen you can live here as long as you like then apply for permenant residency.

No-one cares about the kiwi's coming here, they're good value, and are our mates from across the ditch. It only takes a couple of hours by plane from here to NZ. They have an odd accent but you get used to it and they're fun as to party with. My husband works with a few, Moari one's ( their indigenous) and white. They make underground barbies called hungys (or something like that) and cook everything in a hole in the ground, sounds grosse but delish in reality.

New Zealand is the most beautiful country, I've been there on holidays and it took my breath away, the countryside is so green. You'd probably love it there anyway.
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