for those with high blood pressure.

newguy18 · 8th January 2008, 06:18 AM

How often do you guys have chest pains.Since I found out I had high blood pressure I haven't gone a single day without having chest pains.The day I found out my blood pressure was 170/130.
I have them more frequntly when I drink water for some reason though.

Eric Frei · 8th January 2008, 07:05 AM

Holy crap, that's bad. I think they call it hypertension.

You should be on meds for that especially at your age.

Do you know why the pressure is so high?

I mean I'm like 45yo and overweight and still pull a nice 130/85 when a little anxious according to the nurse whilst getting the snip!

Mate, they say it should be around 100 + your age as a rule of thumb. There's something not right and you need to get it fixed, even diet changes will lower it a little but going over 160 is real bad.

Jeff Darby · 8th January 2008, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

How often do you guys have chest pains.Since I found out I had high blood pressure I haven't gone a single day without having chest pains.The day I found out my blood pressure was 170/130.
I have them more frequntly when I drink water for some reason though.

Hi Newguy,
You need to cosult your doctor,high blood presure,chest pain...log off and go strait to the doctors, It's not good...something's not right.

GoodLuck
JayD

newguy18 · 8th January 2008, 08:25 AM

that was almost 2 years ago when it was that high.i'm not sure if its been that high since.Yeah I gotta be careful because in my family history is a lot of heart diease.When it was that high I was drinking 4 or 5 energy drinks a day plus at least 3 pots of coffee.Now I only drink 6 cups of coffee a day and no energy drinks.I'd quit caffine entirly but I get some monster headaches without some coffee.

azrael · 8th January 2008, 11:38 AM

Still..... family history PLUS B.P. spikes...you need to check that B.P. regularly..if not eveyday....last thing you want is a stroke

...then there'd definately be NO MORE CLIMBING. Go do it ... NOW.

newguy18 · 8th January 2008, 02:31 PM

Can't really afford it yet.its slow and I don't have med insurance.It doesn't get too bad and it definatly hasn't been as bad as it was 2 years ago but that was a combination of way too much caffine and stressing my hair gray.[literally]I had alot of gray hair before I buzzed it mostly on the sides.I really take care not to push it with coffee and salt.i'm also sure I'd be better off if I liked more veggies than onions,lettuce,potatoes and corn.I can eat most fruits without to much that I don't like but as soon as I can I'll visit a doctor and see about getting a tester and everything.I just wonder how those of you who have it deal with it.

azrael · 8th January 2008, 03:19 PM

Go buy a home test B.P. monitor at the Chemist (or Drugstore????) ...get a demo on how to use it from them....small price to pay compared to ........well, what could happen.
Never take B.P. more than two sucessive times in one sitting...the pressure in the cuff can make things worse if you do it more than twice...or so I'm told.

RandyMac · 8th January 2008, 06:35 PM

yeah that is high, too high, good thing you did something. What meds did your Doc give you? I have hypertension, used to run 160s over high 90s, with a couple minor changes in lifestyle and a cozaar a day, it runs high 120s over low 80s. Any lower than that and I feel like sleeping. I used to run my meters in the red most of the time, I was a flat out maniac, paying for it now.
You younguns need to be careful, that silly ass stuff you thought you got away with in your 20s and 30s, will catch up with you.

RandyMac

Eric Frei · 8th January 2008, 06:51 PM

I play safe now ... I brew my own beer.

Therrin · 8th January 2008, 08:18 PM

Newguy, when ya get out here and start helping me fix the quad, I'll take your BP as often as you want

I learned how to do them pretty well in my EMT course, and have my own stuff.

Mine is actually usually a little high. It used to be a bit low, something to do with being so tall, but I royally screwed my body over in my young 20's and I've a feeling that I'll be payin the consequences for the rest of my life. You can give your body alot of shyt, and mine at least managed to pull through. I'm *Constantly* high strung and tense, but I've always been that way.

I try to advocate that my young groundies treat their bodies better than I have with mine.

Looks like Ekka's got a great method for relaxing... if nothing else, alcohol thins the blood, and you have trouble getting clots in your veins when the blood is thinned down. Just make sure it's at the *end* of the work day.

Steve Tipton · 8th January 2008, 09:09 PM

I prescribe a daily medicinal Guiness or 2, with a bi weekly Bundy and ginger beer.
Works for me, I don't look a day over 70, and I'm actually 52!

Therrin · 8th January 2008, 09:10 PM

Quintrex....

shaggs · 8th January 2008, 11:25 PM

Hey all, high BP is not something to "leave". Get it checked out. The answer may be as simple as 1/2 and aspirin a day ("thins" the blood to make it flow thru the body better and pass any occlusions).

Don't want to scare you but high BP can only lead to really bad things, angina, cardic arrest, stroke etc. And when you are down this neck of the woods, these things reoccur!!

Any form of chest pain which includes a heavy feeling, a "weight" on your chest, coupled with shortness of breath..STOP what you are doing...even driving and seek assistance.

"Traumatic" chest pain (such as brused ribs, lung damage etc) will give you a sharp pain, with further increase on inspiration.

"Cardic" chest pain will NOT increase with inspiration and will be a dull type pain. This is the one to seek urgent medical help for especially.

These are only a rough guide so you can ask yourself now if this is what you have experienced.

Play it safe fella's..........otherwise leave your 18" chipper to me in your will!!!

shaggs · 8th January 2008, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quintrex

I prescribe a daily medicinal Guiness or 2, with a bi weekly Bundy and ginger beer.
Works for me, I don't look a day over 70, and I'm actually 52!

Steve, take 2 steriods and go straight to Beijing!!

Done it · 8th January 2008, 11:43 PM

Prevent Blood Pressure: Don't drink anything that comes with a screw top.

newguy18 · 8th January 2008, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyMac

yeah that is high, too high, good thing you did something. What meds did your Doc give you? I have hypertension, used to run 160s over high 90s, with a couple minor changes in lifestyle and a cozaar a day, it runs high 120s over low 80s. Any lower than that and I feel like sleeping. I used to run my meters in the red most of the time, I was a flat out maniac, paying for it now.
You younguns need to be careful, that silly ass stuff you thought you got away with in your 20s and 30s, will catch up with you.

RandyMac

I said I gotta go to a doctor when I put some money back.I haven't been to a docotor since I was 10 and got my physical to play football.No meds.The only reason I knew back then was the man I worked for at the time had some serious heart problems and he had his own meter.He was a 10 minute walk from where i lived at the time so I usaully walked.I went to his house one day coming back from my lunch break and my chest was killing me and I said man I gotta sit down for a minute and explained what was happening.He checked my blood pressure and sugar and said you have really high blood pressure and told me that you need to tell your mom that your bp was 170/130.At least my bloods sugar was only 96.After my chest calmed [under my own saying he wanted me to go home.I got a couple of asprins and went back to work.From then on no coffee or energy drinks at his place couldn't even bring my own.

Steve Tipton · 9th January 2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggs

Steve, take 2 steriods and go straight to Beijing!!

What about 2 viagra and straight to Bangkok?

Therrin · 9th January 2008, 08:58 PM

Bangkok might actually be good therapy Quintrex. Might help relieve some of that... pressure, that new guy has been building up. I think a trip should be scheduled immediately. It's my professional EMT opinion that he get "treatment" as soon as possible.

If I can afford the ticket, I just may go and get...treated...with him.

Eric Frei · 9th January 2008, 09:03 PM

Hows that mobile phone guru Crazy John, he was only 42, didn't look overweight and dropped dead going on his morning walk.

Wife was told of Crazy John's health on day he died | NEWS.com.au

Quote:

AT the very moment police arrived at multi-millionaire John Ilhan's Melbourne home early on Tuesday morning, the phone started to ring.

On her way to answer the door, his wife Patricia grabbed the phone.

It was the medical centre where Mr Ilhan, 42, had been just days earlier for a routine blood test.

Her husband needed to see the doctor within three days, she was told.

She then opened the door to two officers, there to tell her the devastating news that her husband was dead.

"I didn't believe it," Mrs Ilhan said.

"I just said, 'No' and kept saying they didn't understand; that he's Crazy John.

"The police were so incredibly supportive and I remember saying they didn't understand the impact; the effect this was going to have on everybody.

"It was going to ripple through the whole community.

"To me he was so incredible, I thought John was infallible."

Ilhan 'just started' regular walks

Mrs Ilhan said her husband of 12 years had left home at 6.30am for a walk, something the mobile phone entrepreneur had been doing lately.

"I believe he collapsed at 7.12am and was found by a passerby who started CPR until the ambulance arrived five minutes later," she said.

"The officers worked on him for 30 minutes, but couldn't get his heart started."

Mrs Ilhan had sent her daughters, Yasmin, 9, and Hannah, 8, to school.

Youngest daughter Jaida, 6, and baby son Aydin, 10 months, were at home.

Around 8.30am she called her husband's mobile phone, worried that he had been gone for two hours.

A policewoman answered the phone. "She asked my name and address and said she would call back. Five minutes later they were at the front door."

Mrs Ilhan arranged for her daughters to be brought home so she could break the news to them.

"It was the worst thing I have ever had to do in my life," she said.

She told them something had happened to their father.

'Daddy has fallen asleep'

"I explained that Daddy had been walking on the beach and something happened to his heart and that he had fallen asleep and the ambulance officers couldn't make him wake up.

"Yasmin started sobbing. Hannah saw her crying and realised it was serious and she started to cry, too."

Mrs Ilhan said Yasmin would turn 10 on Wednesday and had been excited about her first father-daughter trip to America in December to see teen idol Hannah Montana in concert.

"She has mentioned the trip since, but said it wouldn't be the same without her dad."

Yasmin and her father were very close.

"He could always soothe her and make her smile.

"We used to laugh about the fact that he would always side with her over me. Yasmin loved that."

Death not a heart attack

Mrs Ilhan said her husband did not die of a heart attack, but from a blockage to the main artery of his heart, and that his heart had shut down.

"I asked for an autopsy because we don't know if this was hereditary or lifestyle-related," she said.

The official cause of his brother's death had been heart disease.

"I have been told that as John was so young, it was unlikely to be lifestyle-related."

He did not drink, had stopped smoking and played golf three times a week.

To her, John Ilhan was a wonderful husband, terrific father and genuinely nice guy.

"The secret to John was his charisma; he was always smiling, always happy and he brought out the best in people."

She describes him as a good man in every way, a man who always did the right thing.

John Ilhan built up a multimillion-dollar mobile phone business from scratch to become one of the nation's richest men, but his wife said family always came first.

"I will never meet anyone like him again," she said.

Therrin · 9th January 2008, 09:11 PM

That's so frickin sad Ekka. Poor family. Sounded like a pretty decent bloke.

shaggs · 9th January 2008, 10:25 PM

A paramedic gets sent to a male who has been decapitated by a train.
He walked along the railway lines in the dark only to find the head. His radio message...."Yeah radio I'm at the Head Job ,,,,,but there's nobody here"

shaggs · 9th January 2008, 10:28 PM

Soory guys , had to lighten things up.

The same paramedic when getting sent to a cal at Kurnell (a suburb in Sydneys south) would always ask radio "what was that, ????urnell??"

shaggs · 9th January 2008, 10:30 PM

Far Kurnell!!!

(whaleoilbeefhooked

)

Therrin · 10th January 2008, 08:36 PM

didn't get that one... got one for ya though.

While in my EMT class, my lecture instructor was the funniest teacher I've ever had, bar none. He told us a really good one, to keep in mind.

He says, "when an emergency is happening, and someone points at you and says "call me an ambulance!" You immediately point right back at them, and in all seriousness reply with "YOU'RE AN AMBULANCE!!!!"

shaggs · 10th January 2008, 10:37 PM

Far Kurnell = F@#ken Hell!

When dispatching a job to a male house of love, the operator would never stop to add "additional note on the call says, "use rear entrance".

Therrin · 11th January 2008, 12:00 AM

Haha...

"male house of love" eh? I thought you guys were out in Sidney, not San Francisco...

chainsawchick67 · 13th January 2008, 02:46 AM

i have PRE-hypertension, along with a VERY high pulse rate, I HATE going to the doc for things, but i have found taking 1000mg of fish oil(Omega-3) helps a lot

newguy18 · 13th January 2008, 04:07 AM

i'm in a state of hypertension at least once a week.

Therrin · 13th January 2008, 09:53 PM

chainsawchick67,

the previous standard at 120/80 is now the NEW "pre-hypertension", as the standard is now set at 115/75. (or so they say)

Quite a few of us who were still somewhat normal have ascended as well

And newguy,...... a what? a "state" of hypertension once a week" eh?
That's a relief, I was starting to get worried!!! Oh, and meeting a pretty girl at church doesn't count as a "state of hypertension" newguy

Pigdog · 14th January 2008, 03:33 PM

Folks can get by with hypertension for quite some time. Sooner or later though the left side of your heart will begin to bulge and the valves will not line up like they should anymore. When that happens, all you'll be able to do is nap after a little physical effort. When that phase of the problem kicks in, there's no going back! All you'll be able to do is tell folks how you did it back when you were well.
Best to take care of it while you feel good!
First rule when you deal with the devil is Don't!

View Poll Results: how often do you have chest pains?
never had chest pains	12	66.67%
on occasion.	3	16.67%
quite frequntly	2	11.11%
all the friggin time.	1	5.56%
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8th January 2008, 06:18 AM	#1
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	for those with high blood pressure. How often do you guys have chest pains.Since I found out I had high blood pressure I haven't gone a single day without having chest pains.The day I found out my blood pressure was 170/130. I have them more frequntly when I drink water for some reason though. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler Last edited by newguy18; 8th January 2008 at 06:20 AM. Reason: added to post

8th January 2008, 07:05 AM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Holy crap, that's bad. I think they call it hypertension. You should be on meds for that especially at your age. Do you know why the pressure is so high? I mean I'm like 45yo and overweight and still pull a nice 130/85 when a little anxious according to the nurse whilst getting the snip! Mate, they say it should be around 100 + your age as a rule of thumb. There's something not right and you need to get it fixed, even diet changes will lower it a little but going over 160 is real bad. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th January 2008, 08:25 AM	#4
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: for those with high blood pressure. that was almost 2 years ago when it was that high.i'm not sure if its been that high since.Yeah I gotta be careful because in my family history is a lot of heart diease.When it was that high I was drinking 4 or 5 energy drinks a day plus at least 3 pots of coffee.Now I only drink 6 cups of coffee a day and no energy drinks.I'd quit caffine entirly but I get some monster headaches without some coffee. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th January 2008, 11:38 AM	#5
azrael Former Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Australia Posts: 234	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Still..... family history PLUS B.P. spikes...you need to check that B.P. regularly..if not eveyday....last thing you want is a stroke...then there'd definately be NO MORE CLIMBING. Go do it ... NOW.

8th January 2008, 02:31 PM	#6
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Can't really afford it yet.its slow and I don't have med insurance.It doesn't get too bad and it definatly hasn't been as bad as it was 2 years ago but that was a combination of way too much caffine and stressing my hair gray.[literally]I had alot of gray hair before I buzzed it mostly on the sides.I really take care not to push it with coffee and salt.i'm also sure I'd be better off if I liked more veggies than onions,lettuce,potatoes and corn.I can eat most fruits without to much that I don't like but as soon as I can I'll visit a doctor and see about getting a tester and everything.I just wonder how those of you who have it deal with it. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th January 2008, 03:19 PM	#7
azrael Former Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Australia Posts: 234	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Go buy a home test B.P. monitor at the Chemist (or Drugstore????) ...get a demo on how to use it from them....small price to pay compared to ........well, what could happen. Never take B.P. more than two sucessive times in one sitting...the pressure in the cuff can make things worse if you do it more than twice...or so I'm told.

8th January 2008, 06:35 PM	#8
RandyMac Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NW California Posts: 86	Re: for those with high blood pressure. yeah that is high, too high, good thing you did something. What meds did your Doc give you? I have hypertension, used to run 160s over high 90s, with a couple minor changes in lifestyle and a cozaar a day, it runs high 120s over low 80s. Any lower than that and I feel like sleeping. I used to run my meters in the red most of the time, I was a flat out maniac, paying for it now. You younguns need to be careful, that silly ass stuff you thought you got away with in your 20s and 30s, will catch up with you. RandyMac

8th January 2008, 06:51 PM	#9
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: for those with high blood pressure. I play safe now ... I brew my own beer. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th January 2008, 08:18 PM	#10
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Newguy, when ya get out here and start helping me fix the quad, I'll take your BP as often as you want I learned how to do them pretty well in my EMT course, and have my own stuff. Mine is actually usually a little high. It used to be a bit low, something to do with being so tall, but I royally screwed my body over in my young 20's and I've a feeling that I'll be payin the consequences for the rest of my life. You can give your body alot of shyt, and mine at least managed to pull through. I'm Constantly high strung and tense, but I've always been that way. I try to advocate that my young groundies treat their bodies better than I have with mine. Looks like Ekka's got a great method for relaxing... if nothing else, alcohol thins the blood, and you have trouble getting clots in your veins when the blood is thinned down. Just make sure it's at the end of the work day.

8th January 2008, 09:09 PM	#11
Steve Tipton Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 823	Re: for those with high blood pressure. I prescribe a daily medicinal Guiness or 2, with a bi weekly Bundy and ginger beer. Works for me, I don't look a day over 70, and I'm actually 52! __________________ Heightmaster

8th January 2008, 09:10 PM	#12
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Quintrex....

8th January 2008, 11:25 PM	#13
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 422	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Hey all, high BP is not something to "leave". Get it checked out. The answer may be as simple as 1/2 and aspirin a day ("thins" the blood to make it flow thru the body better and pass any occlusions). Don't want to scare you but high BP can only lead to really bad things, angina, cardic arrest, stroke etc. And when you are down this neck of the woods, these things reoccur!! Any form of chest pain which includes a heavy feeling, a "weight" on your chest, coupled with shortness of breath..STOP what you are doing...even driving and seek assistance. "Traumatic" chest pain (such as brused ribs, lung damage etc) will give you a sharp pain, with further increase on inspiration. "Cardic" chest pain will NOT increase with inspiration and will be a dull type pain. This is the one to seek urgent medical help for especially. These are only a rough guide so you can ask yourself now if this is what you have experienced. Play it safe fella's..........otherwise leave your 18" chipper to me in your will!!!

8th January 2008, 11:43 PM	#15
Done it Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia. Posts: 784	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Prevent Blood Pressure: Don't drink anything that comes with a screw top.

9th January 2008, 08:58 PM	#18
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Bangkok might actually be good therapy Quintrex. Might help relieve some of that... pressure, that new guy has been building up. I think a trip should be scheduled immediately. It's my professional EMT opinion that he get "treatment" as soon as possible. If I can afford the ticket, I just may go and get...treated...with him.

9th January 2008, 09:11 PM	#20
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: for those with high blood pressure. That's so frickin sad Ekka. Poor family. Sounded like a pretty decent bloke.

9th January 2008, 10:25 PM	#21
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 422	Re: for those with high blood pressure. A paramedic gets sent to a male who has been decapitated by a train. He walked along the railway lines in the dark only to find the head. His radio message...."Yeah radio I'm at the Head Job ,,,,,but there's nobody here"

9th January 2008, 10:28 PM	#22
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 422	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Soory guys , had to lighten things up. The same paramedic when getting sent to a cal at Kurnell (a suburb in Sydneys south) would always ask radio "what was that, ????urnell??"

9th January 2008, 10:30 PM	#23
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 422	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Far Kurnell!!! (whaleoilbeefhooked)

10th January 2008, 08:36 PM	#24
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: for those with high blood pressure. didn't get that one... got one for ya though. While in my EMT class, my lecture instructor was the funniest teacher I've ever had, bar none. He told us a really good one, to keep in mind. He says, "when an emergency is happening, and someone points at you and says "call me an ambulance!" You immediately point right back at them, and in all seriousness reply with "YOU'RE AN AMBULANCE!!!!"

10th January 2008, 10:37 PM	#25
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 422	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Far Kurnell = F@#ken Hell! When dispatching a job to a male house of love, the operator would never stop to add "additional note on the call says, "use rear entrance".

11th January 2008, 12:00 AM	#26
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Haha... "male house of love" eh? I thought you guys were out in Sidney, not San Francisco...

13th January 2008, 02:46 AM	#27
chainsawchick67 Sappling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 5	Re: for those with high blood pressure. i have PRE-hypertension, along with a VERY high pulse rate, I HATE going to the doc for things, but i have found taking 1000mg of fish oil(Omega-3) helps a lot

13th January 2008, 04:07 AM	#28
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: for those with high blood pressure. i'm in a state of hypertension at least once a week. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

13th January 2008, 09:53 PM	#29
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: for those with high blood pressure. chainsawchick67, the previous standard at 120/80 is now the NEW "pre-hypertension", as the standard is now set at 115/75. (or so they say) Quite a few of us who were still somewhat normal have ascended as well And newguy,...... a what? a "state" of hypertension once a week" eh? That's a relief, I was starting to get worried!!! Oh, and meeting a pretty girl at church doesn't count as a "state of hypertension" newguy

14th January 2008, 03:33 PM	#30
Pigdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 62	Re: for those with high blood pressure. Folks can get by with hypertension for quite some time. Sooner or later though the left side of your heart will begin to bulge and the valves will not line up like they should anymore. When that happens, all you'll be able to do is nap after a little physical effort. When that phase of the problem kicks in, there's no going back! All you'll be able to do is tell folks how you did it back when you were well. Best to take care of it while you feel good! First rule when you deal with the devil is Don't!

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