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Old 16th March 2011, 06:34 PM   #1
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Victim of school bullying a web hero | The Daily Telegraph

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THERE are only so many times you can try to turn the other cheek.

A Sydney schoolboy has become an internet sensation after video emerged of him body-slamming another student during a verbal and physical attack.

Striking back for bullying victims everywhere, the Year 10 boy - who pleaded with his tormenter to leave him alone - picked up his attacker and slammed him to the ground.

The teenager, said to have been bullied all his school life, was backed up against a wall, taunted and punched by a younger, smaller boy.

The victim, identified on Facebook as Casey Heynes, took a hit to the face and then more blows as the Year 7 boy goaded him to fight.

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Suddenly Casey had had enough. He launched himself at his attacker, picked him up and threw him to the ground.

The younger boy staggered away, stunned and hurt.

Both students were suspended for four days after the incident on Monday.

Footage of the fight at Chifley College, Dunheved Campus at North St Marys, was posted online and drew hundreds of comments on Facebook - mostly in support of Casey.

Casey's father said yesterday his son had been the victim of bullying for several years and feared for his safety if he spoke about the fight.

"There'll be reprisals from other kids in the school and he still has to go to school somewhere," he said.

"He's not a violent kid, it's the first time he's lashed out and I don't want him to be victimised over that.

"He's always been taught never to hit. Apparently other people's parents don't teach their kids that."

Students said violence was a daily occurrence with fights often filmed and posted online.

"The fights I have seen here, it's horrible. It really makes me feel unsafe," one said. A classmate added: "People pick on him every single day, they hit him around and stuff, and he just got sick of it and let out the anger."

Online sympathisers have started a "Casey Heynes Anti Bullying Day".

A NSW Department of Education and Training spokeswoman said the school "does not tolerate any violence and deals with all cases according to its community-agreed discipline code".

"Both students in a fight at the school shown on the internet have been suspended ... the only injury sustained was a grazed knee."
I say good job to Casey, the bully should be expelled and be forced into some sort of behavior adjustment program. I know what its like to be bullied and I have no sympathy for bullies.

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Old 16th March 2011, 07:14 PM   #2
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I just watched the video and the poor bloke copped three punches in the face before he did a thing...the agressor got what he came looking for, but it did not turn out the way he hoped ! SUCKO !
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Fighting back is acceptable and necessary.

Where you are out-sized or outnumbered then weapons to equal the odds are acceptable IMHO.

Waiting for authorities in these matters is a disgusting joke, especially from schools. They just go into "cover their ass" mode, as seen in this case.

Children and the rest of society witness daily (thanks to News) authorities meeting force with force, yet in their own personal moment they are expected to decline universally acceptable displays of "protection". Everyone has the right to be left the hell alone, you intrude into that right then face the music.

Where the moment renders you incapable of fighting back (severely out numbered etc) and then revenging the act especially with stealth is another issue, considered vigilante. But what is one to do, authorities for most parts are absolutely useless.
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I feel sorry for Casey, damm the media, his name should never have hit the news. It should have been withheld, this will affect him for some time.

As far as bullies go, you can only take so much bullying before you lash out, I know from experiance. Problem is when you lash out it often is more aggresive than you would normally be as a person.

Looked to me, that the boy bullying thought he had an easy mark, soooo wrong.
Also think that from the behaviour of Casey he is normally a placid kid, he really took a lot of punishment before he defended himself.

Ultimately a person should have the right to defend themselves.
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Ultimately a person should have the right to defend themselves.
They do have the right but some do-gooder wank in the education system applies a different version of law to their grounds.

The outcome is .... no justice.

In a society that demands justice the way the education dept handle things removes justice, building resentment toward authority for victims .... no wonder youth crime and violence is getting worse as we have a young unchecked society of thugs getting away with it.
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The outcome is .... no justice.
Agree, the little kid should have been suspended for weeks, not four days. Casey should have got a warning, if anything at all.

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In a society that demands justice the way the education dept handle things removes justice, building resentment toward authority for victims .... no wonder youth crime and violence is getting worse as we have a young unchecked society of thugs getting away with it.
I think the main reason that young kids are so direspectful now is they are a product of a no smack upbringing, a school system that is pretty well dysfunctional as far as reprimanding children, and little consequence to their actions really. But do I blame the kids, too right I do, it is a matter of conscience whether you are a prick or not.
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But do I blame the kids, too right I do, it is a matter of conscience whether you are a prick or not.
I find the kid is a product of their parenting to some degree, and often the prick behaviour is reinforced by the parent not the other way around where it is reprimanded.... where there is no assertive response to a child behaving like a prick (an attitude of indifference) the behaviour is also reinforced in the mind of the child.... inaction is reinforcement to that child.

How many useless lazy assed parents watch it all happen and shrug their shoulders, "ah kids, you know what they're like".

Ever challenged one of those parents at a park where their prick kid is bullying others whilst the parents watch on? It's interesting I assure you. I often say out loud, "crikey's who's kid is that and why isn't the parent doing anything about it" ..........

........ watch the sparks fly from the Neanderthals.
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Sorry, if someone hits me,or even tries,they are done for.If i hit someone with aggressively, they aren't likely to just walk away.
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Sorry, if someone hits me,or even tries,they are done for.If i hit someone with aggressively, they aren't likely to just walk away.
Never underestimate anyone grasshopper, for the path you have taken is measured in years, be not the agressor or revengeful be one with your surroundings........
OR as Cassius Clay said, "float like a butterfly and sting like a bee "
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Agree, the little kid should have been suspended for weeks, not four days. Casey should have got a warning, if anything at all.
Suspension doesn't even help, it doesn't change the kid's mentality, if anything it makes it worse. The Education Dept needs a radical change in the way it handles bullying because things like time outs & suspensions don't really help much. Both the child and parents need to be educated in acceptable social behaviour just like the Americans and their driver ed programs after breaking certain road rules.

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I think the main reason that young kids are so direspectful now is they are a product of a no smack upbringing, a school system that is pretty well dysfunctional as far as reprimanding children, and little consequence to their actions really. But do I blame the kids, too right I do, it is a matter of conscience whether you are a prick or not.
Agreed, but the parents play their part in this as well. With the ever changing laws its been harder for children to be "punished" whether at home or at school. A school needs a permission slip to be signed for after school detention in some areas. At this current time and during my school time, I have seen no effective way of treating bullying. I still remember being bullied during class time and the teacher sits there watching on like a #@%$ing retard. In my opinion the government has failed us on such an incredibly high level in regards to this issue, I do acknowledge there are other factors but the main contributing factor is the gov with all its rules and lack of effective support programs for victims as it really does damage the victim later in life.
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Agreed, but the parents play their part in this as well. With the ever changing laws its been harder for children to be "punished" whether at home or at school. A school needs a permission slip to be signed for after school detention in some areas. At this current time and during my school time, I have seen no effective way of treating bullying. I still remember being bullied during class time and the teacher sits there watching on like a #@%$ing retard. In my opinion the government has failed us on such an incredibly high level in regards to this issue, I do acknowledge there are other factors but the main contributing factor is the gov with all its rules and lack of effective support programs for victims as it really does damage the victim later in life.
Agreed, the bottom line is parenting and teaching your child what is acceptable, what is morally sound and developing in them strength of character. Bullying has been around forever, I was bullied, my daughter has been bullied only a couple of years ago at school. I stood up for myself eventually, and was left alone. My daughter stood up for herself eventually and has since become a popular kid at school, due to her personality. Believe me cat fights have been around forever too. Neither of us have an aggresive bone in our bodies.

There was lots of disapline at school in the time I went, including the cane and being expelled, parents disaplined their kids on average, it didn't stop the bullies at lunch time and after school. I went to private school, then left it to go to public with moving, my daughter went to public school, socio demagraphics have little to do with it.

Problem is there are a lot of aggresive feral parents out there too, I've seen parents banned from primary school and high school here locally. What hope do their children have. I doubt that education would change them. So the problem will remain.

Main thing is to teach your children respect for others when due, morals and how to think for themselves. I don't know the answer to the bigger picture, but punishing your children isn't nessacary when you have raised them to consider consequences of actions and what is right, leading by example and having lots of discussions, well I've found that to be the case. The only punishment I've done is ground her a couple of times. I'm pretty proud of how my daughter has turned out.

I think that confronted with aggravated violence you have the right to defend yourself. I doubt that little punk will be bullying Casey again.

I feel sad for Casey though, this will stay with him for a while, yeah he needs some moral support.



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Ever challenged one of those parents at a park where their prick kid is bullying others whilst the parents watch on? It's interesting I assure you. I often say out loud, "crikey's who's kid is that and why isn't the parent doing anything about it" ..........

........ watch the sparks fly from the Neanderthals.
I worked in Parks and Reserves (now Open Space and Recreation) for five years some time ago, seen some pretty bad kids, some good kids, some pretty woeful parenting when the kid mucks up. Seen kids vandalise plants in front of parents and the parents just walk on indifferent, bullying going on and people just stand there and say nothing. Yes I did challenge some, I hate that sort of thing. I've seen a bloke hit his missus and people passing by alter their walking path and hurry on. Makes you wonder really. I did help her, come to think about it I could have been hit myself, but I will not just stand there and let that sort of thing go on while I'm around.

Bottom line is you have to stand up for yourself, first with words, then if all else fails you do what you have to do. Bullies exist after school too, in the workplace etc, so you have to learn how to deal with it. Unfortunately.
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Never underestimate anyone grasshopper, for the path you have taken is measured in years, be not the agressor or revengeful be one with your surroundings........
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I'm only the aggressor if i feel my family is in danger,only happened once.
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I find the kid is a product of their parenting to some degree, and often the prick behaviour is reinforced by the parent not the other way around where it is reprimanded.... where there is no assertive response to a child behaving like a prick (an attitude of indifference) the behaviour is also reinforced in the mind of the child.... inaction is reinforcement to that child.

How many useless lazy assed parents watch it all happen and shrug their shoulders, "ah kids, you know what they're like".

Ever challenged one of those parents at a park where their prick kid is bullying others whilst the parents watch on? It's interesting I assure you. I often say out loud, "crikey's who's kid is that and why isn't the parent doing anything about it" ..........

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The punk, I mean "victim" received a fair dose of reality. Very deserving and the server of the dose did a good job explaining himself and I don't think many others like the "victim" will be messing with him again.
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