Kid climbing tree!

newguy18 · 5th January 2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by treevet

I was free climbing a tree when I was younger (taking up my climbing line to tie in) on a hot humid day. I slipped on lichens (a non parasitic fungae-algae and my feet went right up over my head. I fell 50 feet (I measured it) but half way down I hit a limb on my back. I climbed the rest of the day to show the groundy what tough is but rolling over in bed I punctured a lung with one of the three broken ribs I had. Two weeks of suffering broken ribs is enough memory to last a lifetime. You can t laugh or cough or even sleep very much. You could ask Evil Kneivel what a lifetime of pain is like but he is dead. You will have to learn the hardway, Newguy.

i've already fallen out of 2 trees.one was a pecan that I was rec climbing.I had limbs spaced out perfectly and I had just pulled my self up to a 4" diameter limb on one of the leaders.before I could clip in my flipline It broke and I fell 30' and landed flat as a pancake on top of my head.Believe it or not it happened and I walked away without much more than 2 broken fingers and one hell of a headache.The second time was only 15' but it happened while I was restting my climbing line and an unexpected wind came through.I think i learned the hardway.

bigshea13 · 5th January 2008, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by treevet

How high were you? How far did you fall? Did the truck go into the hots? I was once working on a Sunday, exhausted at the end of the day and boomed all the way out with my 55 and looked at the truck and had no riggers down. Got away with it somehow.

i was maybe 45 feet when i bailed. the truck went over the edge of the driveway but the boom never tookout the lines. I probably could have got a nice settlement out of it because id been telling the shop that the air canisters were leaking. they kept telling me they were going to bring one out to me but it never happened. im not the suing type. one more crazy story ta tell.
at first I thought the groundy was moving truck so i was yelling at him from the top of my lung. I realized it wasnt him when i saw him come dashing from the brush still hiking up his trousers. guess he was preoccupied.

treevet · 5th January 2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by newguy18

i've already fallen out of 2 trees.one was a pecan that I was rec climbing.I had limbs spaced out perfectly and I had just pulled my self up to a 4" diameter limb on one of the leaders.before I could clip in my flipline It broke and I fell 30' and landed flat as a pancake on top of my head.Believe it or not it happened and I walked away without much more than 2 broken fingers and one hell of a headache.The second time was only 15' but it happened while I was restting my climbing line and an unexpected wind came through.I think i learned the hardway.

Newguy, You need to stop freeclimbing so much, get rid of that 7/l6 line with 300 lb swl, and stop bragging about taking chances. All of us oldtimers have heard it too many times. I could literally talk for hours about accidents I have witnessed. Don t hold me to these figures, but if an object drops 2 feet it doubles in weight. If you drop 2 feet and you weigh 150 lbs and shock load your line with that crap you buy it will fail. Be more careful. This work is dangerous enough in the best of scenerios and we want you to grow old on this forum to see what a great young arborist you develop into.

TreeDimensional · 5th January 2008, 07:41 PM

I have a theory on why kids do some wild things that us older people won't, their brain isn't pain trained yet. In the past I learned that you should always venture into risky situations using the limb less useful to you. For example a right-handed person usually uses their left hand for risky situations. That theory worked great for me until I had my arm broke at a karate tournament, now I use my right arm to test the water.

Someone also mentioned if toughness is an inherited quality or a fact of just having to work hard. I believe both to be true, but I favor the strong mental attitude. Our son used to work with us on occassion, and he could go like crazy until about noon, then his Mom could out perform him. I always wondered if we as society as a whole were getting softer, According to my Dad I wouldn't have kept up with him in his day, and what I remember from my Grandad, at 65, he could outwork all of us put together.

quercus · 6th January 2008, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bigshea13

wicked!

im trying to get my little woman to try it. she keeps putting me off.

I actually tried that once on some rock in France. I even bought a saddle for her. She rapelled down the rock, wich was about 9 feet and then she started crying and screaming to pull her up again. Some other tourist came and as I saw him I looked at his face,he said nothing and left... If he would have spoken at that time, I'm sure he would have asked what I was trying to kill!!! Needless to say she never climbed again... A few weeks ago I winched her up in a tree with the GRCS... She said it was cool and asked me what the fuss about climbing into trees was all about? She said "I didn't know your work was this easy!!!"

Here are some pictures of her and me during a small rapell down a clif to inspect some tie in point. This was not a climbing expedition but we went back with some climbers to do some serious climbing a few months later. This was a scouting trip to see what we could climb there... Verdon is the mekka of rock climbing in europe, IMO...

quercus · 6th January 2008, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbicide

Newguy you must be part squirrel then.

I'm guessing the other part is fruitcake...

Sorry for the double post, but I can't multi-quote yet... Don't know how!!

Therrin · 6th January 2008, 03:02 AM

Hey nice pics Quercus!! Looks like fun. I need to get back on something out here. Thinkin about taking my new lady friend out to fossil falls for the day and setting up some rappels and top-roped climbs. She seems adventurous so it should be interesting.

Hah, that's too bad about the girl freaking out. When I was an instructor, we had about 10 different areas bolted for specific climbs up on our rock course. Every now and then we got youngsters ( and even some adults ) they'd scramble right up to the top, and call it out then just freeze, or totally freak out.

In our training intro we demonstrate leaning back into rappel position and have them do it on a trainer, but when they get all the way up there it's different.
We'd usually give em 10 or 15 mins and try to talk them through it, but alot of times I ended up having to tie off my belay and pass it to my partner; and ascend up to where they were to calm 'em down.
Usually once you're there next to them, talking really calmly and looking completely unconcerned then they relax a bit. Put your arm around their waist and *leaaaaan baaaack* talking them through it. Then start rappelling side by side.

Has an amazing effect on their trust issues. Usually when they get to the bottom they wanna go again right away to show they aren't afraid anymore. I loved workin with people.

quercus · 6th January 2008, 03:48 AM

See that kind of rapelling is part of a perfect world, Therrin... Somewhere deep inside I just knew up front that I'd have to haul her ass up again...

So if I went with her that meant climbing up, unbelayed or self belayed, with no chances of a rescue within a thousand miles in the event of something going wrong... I wanted to go with her, but safety issues prevented me from it.

newguy18 · 6th January 2008, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by quercus

I'm guessing the other part is fruitcake...

Sorry for the double post, but I can't multi-quote yet... Don't know how!!

I'd say since I'm part squirrel then the other part would be nuts.

arborjockey · 6th January 2008, 02:09 PM

yeah buy them some gear. I defenatly dont condone free climbing and it never flies on my job sites. Although I did it as a kid, Id still, for some reason like to take a black rubber hose to that idiot who's filming. Preying on the fearlessness of a child for a youtube video is stupid. Has anyone seen the youtube of the japanese guys filming the topping of a palmtree. The climber gets rag dolled. cant seem to find it anymore

Therrin · 6th January 2008, 08:01 PM

Hah, I'd like to see that one...

And Newguy, yeah, part nuts is just about right. I was doing a quote today and someone else stopped and asked if I did climbing, I said yeah, and he looks at me, looks at the guy I was quoting and says "that means your just a bit crazy doesnt it?"

I said SHHHHHHH!!!! Don't tell anyone!

He ended up getting a card and calling me later, and the other guy didn't mind. Was kinda strange how anyone who climbs is "just a bit crazy". Not that I disagree with that, but it's not like I'm bullriding or anything. (that sounds fun too though...)

newguy18 · 6th January 2008, 08:57 PM

Bull riding is fun[and painful too].

Therrin · 6th January 2008, 08:59 PM

are you sure you didn't mean Bill-riding?

newguy18 · 6th January 2008, 09:09 PM

i'm sure.I rode my uncle's bull for all of about 10' and got thrown.Man that hurt.i'd do it again in a heartbeat.

TREE-SURFER · 7th January 2008, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bigshea13

i was trimmin from a bucket 7-8 yrs ag when the brakes cut loose. the truck began to roll down the hill . the boom was almost vertical over the lines..so I unhooked and bailed for the nearest tree.............too short. i fell and hit a stone wall fracturing my leg. instead of going to hospital i took it easy and did strictly bucket work for next two week. later that summer i was waterskiing and showing off by holding rope with my foot and giving the finger to my pals in the boat. we d been drinking and i fell. nearly compound and it was a spiral fracture on my femur. now i have titanium rod embedded into my leg. the doc told me id only have 75% motion from then on.. thankfully he was wrong...no problems here.

I'd hired a 60' Nifty Lift for the day to prune an Acer as my harness was away being tested (LOLER regs). It was powered by a 110volt pump, with control switches, not valves, in the bucket to manoeuvre with. Part way through the job, I needed to move under a branch and for some reason, it didn't want to move. I kept trying the switch, when the flaming thing dropped 6 feet. Damn near dropped my load in my shorts

. I didn't hesitate into jumping outta the basket and into the tree where I felt safer, only to then watch, as the boom fully descended with a bump. Damn, I was shakin like a dog takin a dump. Descended on the lowering rope and waited for my harness to come back from testing station before completing the job.

5th January 2008, 07:41 PM	#29 (permalink)
TreeDimensional Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 385	Re: Kid climbing tree! I have a theory on why kids do some wild things that us older people won't, their brain isn't pain trained yet. In the past I learned that you should always venture into risky situations using the limb less useful to you. For example a right-handed person usually uses their left hand for risky situations. That theory worked great for me until I had my arm broke at a karate tournament, now I use my right arm to test the water. Someone also mentioned if toughness is an inherited quality or a fact of just having to work hard. I believe both to be true, but I favor the strong mental attitude. Our son used to work with us on occassion, and he could go like crazy until about noon, then his Mom could out perform him. I always wondered if we as society as a whole were getting softer, According to my Dad I wouldn't have kept up with him in his day, and what I remember from my Grandad, at 65, he could outwork all of us put together.

6th January 2008, 03:02 AM	#32 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,254	Re: Kid climbing tree! Hey nice pics Quercus!! Looks like fun. I need to get back on something out here. Thinkin about taking my new lady friend out to fossil falls for the day and setting up some rappels and top-roped climbs. She seems adventurous so it should be interesting. Hah, that's too bad about the girl freaking out. When I was an instructor, we had about 10 different areas bolted for specific climbs up on our rock course. Every now and then we got youngsters ( and even some adults ) they'd scramble right up to the top, and call it out then just freeze, or totally freak out. In our training intro we demonstrate leaning back into rappel position and have them do it on a trainer, but when they get all the way up there it's different. We'd usually give em 10 or 15 mins and try to talk them through it, but alot of times I ended up having to tie off my belay and pass it to my partner; and ascend up to where they were to calm 'em down. Usually once you're there next to them, talking really calmly and looking completely unconcerned then they relax a bit. Put your arm around their waist and leaaaaan baaaack talking them through it. Then start rappelling side by side. Has an amazing effect on their trust issues. Usually when they get to the bottom they wanna go again right away to show they aren't afraid anymore. I loved workin with people. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

6th January 2008, 03:48 AM	#33 (permalink)
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 426	Re: Kid climbing tree! See that kind of rapelling is part of a perfect world, Therrin... Somewhere deep inside I just knew up front that I'd have to haul her ass up again... So if I went with her that meant climbing up, unbelayed or self belayed, with no chances of a rescue within a thousand miles in the event of something going wrong... I wanted to go with her, but safety issues prevented me from it.

6th January 2008, 02:09 PM	#35 (permalink)
arborjockey Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: hawaii. ohio. oregon. california Posts: 127	Re: Kid climbing tree! yeah buy them some gear. I defenatly dont condone free climbing and it never flies on my job sites. Although I did it as a kid, Id still, for some reason like to take a black rubber hose to that idiot who's filming. Preying on the fearlessness of a child for a youtube video is stupid. Has anyone seen the youtube of the japanese guys filming the topping of a palmtree. The climber gets rag dolled. cant seem to find it anymore

6th January 2008, 08:01 PM	#36 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,254	Re: Kid climbing tree! Hah, I'd like to see that one... And Newguy, yeah, part nuts is just about right. I was doing a quote today and someone else stopped and asked if I did climbing, I said yeah, and he looks at me, looks at the guy I was quoting and says "that means your just a bit crazy doesnt it?" I said SHHHHHHH!!!! Don't tell anyone! He ended up getting a card and calling me later, and the other guy didn't mind. Was kinda strange how anyone who climbs is "just a bit crazy". Not that I disagree with that, but it's not like I'm bullriding or anything. (that sounds fun too though...) __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

6th January 2008, 08:57 PM	#37 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,629	Re: Kid climbing tree! Bull riding is fun[and painful too]. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

6th January 2008, 08:59 PM	#38 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,254	Re: Kid climbing tree! are you sure you didn't mean Bill-riding? __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

6th January 2008, 09:09 PM	#39 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,629	Re: Kid climbing tree! i'm sure.I rode my uncle's bull for all of about 10' and got thrown.Man that hurt.i'd do it again in a heartbeat. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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