Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister

Ekka · 24th November 2007, 01:15 PM

Although we dont really get into full on political discussions it's pretty much NEWS around town that John Howard was defeated as Australia's Prime Minister and Kevin Rudd from Queensland is the new PM.

Was a distinctive victory and one of the largest since WWII except for Gough Whitlam's victory.

Considering the govt to beat was the strongest ever in Australian history as far as seats held this was quite an accomplishment.

The safe secure home seat for Howard looks like that rolled over to Labor.

Rudd triumphs as Howard cast aside - Federal Election 2007 News - smh.com.au

Seems the Australian people voted solidly.

I had to chuckle when going to the booth yesterday. You know how you enter and all the parties try to shove some paper in your hands to vote for their party. Well, I never take any, what for? The ballot sheet shows what you have to do and next to everyones name is the party they belong to.

Anyway, the Liberal Guys were really blocking the gate access and getting quite cheeky, now I dont take any papers so I said "no thanks" and this one particular skinny older guy smiles and says "oh come on".

Cut a long story short on the way out it was a bit quieter and a few people around. As I went past him I said, " you better pack a pillow down ya PJ's tonight for the ass whipping ya liberals gonna get". It was funny and evryone laughed.

I bet he'll remember that for a long time now.

So, from King of the castle with most seats to ousted from ya own seat of 33 years, indeed the Australian people have sent a message of what they think about the current situation and I dare say Work Choices being shoved onto everyone was most likely the largest reason for the swing as it affected everyone.

Congratulations Kevin Rudd, now lets see what you can do.

One of the first things I'd like to see is withdrawal from Iraq and stop sucking up GWB's AZZ!

newguy18 · 24th November 2007, 02:51 PM

When I applied for my voters id Im put down thatI wasn't party affiliated and apparently in florida you can't vote elections for govenor or president if your not affiliated to a party unless its strictly a single party race like all democrat.oh well as far as i know this is the only state that does this crap btw good job telling that liberal off Ekka.

Sean Freeman · 24th November 2007, 05:57 PM

I know you don't want this to become a poltical shouting match Eric so I'll say this, it is extremely disappointing that the Australian voting public again have proved that they just don't understand the importance of the Senate vote, we are going to have three years of stalemate with nothing substantial getting done if the predicted outcomes in the Senate eventuate....well done Aussies you have yourselves to blame when none of the critical policy changes you voted for in the house of reps can be enacted due to your idiocy in the votes for the Senate.

Ekka · 24th November 2007, 06:13 PM

Seems they have a strong majority.

Quote:

By 11pm Labor had secured 83 of the 150 seats in the House of Representatives, compared with the coalition’s 58, and was heading towards wins in at least three others, giving it a substantial mandate to pursue new policies on education, health, foreign affairs and industrial relations.

Flailing Howard is tossed from power in Australian 'Ruddslide' - Times Online

Info on how double dissolutions work.

Fact Sheet 33 Double dissolution | Students | Parliamentary Education Office, Parliament of Australia

http://www.aph.gov.au/house/info/infosheets/is18.pdf

Sean Freeman · 24th November 2007, 06:17 PM

Its all good in the house of reps Eric but without the Senate they can do nix if the coalition decide to oppose bills.

Ekka · 24th November 2007, 06:23 PM

Double dissolution, rarely happens.

Links in above post.

The House of Reps is where the clout is.

Sean Freeman · 24th November 2007, 06:25 PM

I quess we'll see over the next three years mate, but don't hold your breath....BTW I hope I'm very wrong.

Ekka · 24th November 2007, 06:34 PM

There's only a few Senators in comparison ... lot easier to sway them.

I must admit I didn't expect Rudd to win let alone by this much. I know generally people weren't happy with Howard but I thought his union bashing campaign would have worked but in fact was part of his undoing.

I really think that the everyday Joe who pushes a trolley down the supermarket isle, pays bills, and fuels the car has had a gut full of the BS just like we have of paying double for Stihls saws in Australia compared to America.

One thing that really took me by surprise was Howard trying to worm through the quick shut down time on young ones enrolling to vote. Why would he do that? Why close the window of time down for new enrolments after an election is called? You'd think the opposite would be better ... get more to enrol down to the last minute.

I'd say coz the younger ones would vote against him. Imagine trying to rent or buy a house these days?

Anyway, the electorate has spoken, no matter which party you like or dislike the fact is people weren't happy with what is going on, and showed that in their votes. I dont know all the reasons why people voted against him but to lose ya own strong hold seat means something really pissed people off.

a_lopa · 24th November 2007, 11:19 PM

Rudd could just be the biggest dud yet,I cant believe he got in!

They will blow $$$ like crazy now

Ekka · 24th November 2007, 11:26 PM

Maybe and maybe not, it's a change from Mr Scrooge though.

Dont forget Scrooge was over taxing with surpluses in the $20billion vicinity.

a_lopa · 24th November 2007, 11:32 PM

Same old story the libs hand a big kitty to the labor gov to blow with the unions.

Sean Freeman · 24th November 2007, 11:39 PM

Politicians are like nappies...they should be changed regularly and for basically the same reasons.

JayD · 24th November 2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Freeman

Politicians are like nappies...they should be changed regularly and for basically the same reasons.

I like how you said that, Sean, And I agree whole heartedly, If Rudd doesn't perform and stay true to his promisses..piss him off.

Ekka · 25th November 2007, 12:17 AM

Exactly I'd say.

Perform or piss off, the electorate does that.

Just didn't know people were that pissed off with Howard.

pomme · 26th November 2007, 12:08 PM

i hope a labour gov doesn t screw your country like they have to ours.Good luck guys

24th November 2007, 01:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,931	Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Although we dont really get into full on political discussions it's pretty much NEWS around town that John Howard was defeated as Australia's Prime Minister and Kevin Rudd from Queensland is the new PM. Was a distinctive victory and one of the largest since WWII except for Gough Whitlam's victory. Considering the govt to beat was the strongest ever in Australian history as far as seats held this was quite an accomplishment. The safe secure home seat for Howard looks like that rolled over to Labor. Rudd triumphs as Howard cast aside - Federal Election 2007 News - smh.com.au Seems the Australian people voted solidly. I had to chuckle when going to the booth yesterday. You know how you enter and all the parties try to shove some paper in your hands to vote for their party. Well, I never take any, what for? The ballot sheet shows what you have to do and next to everyones name is the party they belong to. Anyway, the Liberal Guys were really blocking the gate access and getting quite cheeky, now I dont take any papers so I said "no thanks" and this one particular skinny older guy smiles and says "oh come on". Cut a long story short on the way out it was a bit quieter and a few people around. As I went past him I said, " you better pack a pillow down ya PJ's tonight for the ass whipping ya liberals gonna get". It was funny and evryone laughed. I bet he'll remember that for a long time now. So, from King of the castle with most seats to ousted from ya own seat of 33 years, indeed the Australian people have sent a message of what they think about the current situation and I dare say Work Choices being shoved onto everyone was most likely the largest reason for the swing as it affected everyone. Congratulations Kevin Rudd, now lets see what you can do. One of the first things I'd like to see is withdrawal from Iraq and stop sucking up GWB's AZZ! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

24th November 2007, 02:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,679	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister When I applied for my voters id Im put down thatI wasn't party affiliated and apparently in florida you can't vote elections for govenor or president if your not affiliated to a party unless its strictly a single party race like all democrat.oh well as far as i know this is the only state that does this crap btw good job telling that liberal off Ekka. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

24th November 2007, 05:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister I know you don't want this to become a poltical shouting match Eric so I'll say this, it is extremely disappointing that the Australian voting public again have proved that they just don't understand the importance of the Senate vote, we are going to have three years of stalemate with nothing substantial getting done if the predicted outcomes in the Senate eventuate....well done Aussies you have yourselves to blame when none of the critical policy changes you voted for in the house of reps can be enacted due to your idiocy in the votes for the Senate. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

24th November 2007, 06:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Its all good in the house of reps Eric but without the Senate they can do nix if the coalition decide to oppose bills. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

24th November 2007, 06:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,931	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Double dissolution, rarely happens. Links in above post. The House of Reps is where the clout is. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

24th November 2007, 06:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister I quess we'll see over the next three years mate, but don't hold your breath....BTW I hope I'm very wrong. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

24th November 2007, 06:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,931	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister There's only a few Senators in comparison ... lot easier to sway them. I must admit I didn't expect Rudd to win let alone by this much. I know generally people weren't happy with Howard but I thought his union bashing campaign would have worked but in fact was part of his undoing. I really think that the everyday Joe who pushes a trolley down the supermarket isle, pays bills, and fuels the car has had a gut full of the BS just like we have of paying double for Stihls saws in Australia compared to America. One thing that really took me by surprise was Howard trying to worm through the quick shut down time on young ones enrolling to vote. Why would he do that? Why close the window of time down for new enrolments after an election is called? You'd think the opposite would be better ... get more to enrol down to the last minute. I'd say coz the younger ones would vote against him. Imagine trying to rent or buy a house these days? Anyway, the electorate has spoken, no matter which party you like or dislike the fact is people weren't happy with what is going on, and showed that in their votes. I dont know all the reasons why people voted against him but to lose ya own strong hold seat means something really pissed people off. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

24th November 2007, 11:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 877	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Rudd could just be the biggest dud yet,I cant believe he got in! They will blow $$$ like crazy now __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

24th November 2007, 11:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,931	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Maybe and maybe not, it's a change from Mr Scrooge though. Dont forget Scrooge was over taxing with surpluses in the $20billion vicinity. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

24th November 2007, 11:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 877	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Same old story the libs hand a big kitty to the labor gov to blow with the unions. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

24th November 2007, 11:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,671	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Politicians are like nappies...they should be changed regularly and for basically the same reasons. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

25th November 2007, 12:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,931	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister Exactly I'd say. Perform or piss off, the electorate does that. Just didn't know people were that pissed off with Howard. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

26th November 2007, 12:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
pomme Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 220	Re: Kevin Rudd Australia's new Prime Minister i hope a labour gov doesn t screw your country like they have to ours.Good luck guys

26th November 2007, 12:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
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