Japanese| Norway Whaling Protests

Eric Frei · 17th January 2008, 06:49 PM

Australia has taken a tough stance against Japan's whale killing sprees.

Along with the continued efforts of Greenpeace, Australia sent out a ship to monitor and get evidence of the Japanese whaling fleet.

In a nutshell Greenpeace found the fleet off Western Australia and is disrupting their efforts.

Two men boarded a whaling ship with a written protest and the Japs have held the men, possible international ramifications here but the Autralian govt said they'd take the men and issue resolved, however the Japs want part of the deal to be that protestors piss off and let them kill the whales.

Sounds like blackmail to me.

Source: Japan hopes Australia will end whale stand-off - World - theage.com.au

Quote:

Australia dispatched the Oceanic Viking to Antarctic waters last week to monitor Japanese whaling and gather evidence for a possible international legal challenge to end the annual hunt, which is opposed by most Western nations.

Japan argues that whaling is part of its culture and accuses Western nations of cultural insensitivity. It hunts whales using a loophole in a global moratorium that allows "lethal research'' on the giant mammals.

Japan has said it is ready to hand the two men over but wants environmentalists to promise to stop harassing its whaling ships.

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Source: Customs willing to pick up men held on whaling vessel - Whale watch - Specials

Also on this link look at the pics "whale war".

Quote:

Australian Foreign Minister Stephen Smith said today the Government may send a customs ship to pick up the two activists from the militant conservation group Sea Shepherd to end the standoff.

For too long the world has sat back letting this going on, time to step it up I reckon, they come down here and kill the whales!

Drouin Tree Service · 17th January 2008, 07:33 PM

Yes there ships sinking would be good,the Japanese Gov needs a reality check.I dont blame the USA for one second for nuking them in ww2

Therrin · 17th January 2008, 09:36 PM

OMG! That's one way to put it.

I don't know about sinking ships though... I think you have to have at least a Greenpeace membership to do that kinda thing

Come now, lets think of this... we sink the ships, which then leak oil and diesel fuel into the ocean...which in turn kills whales and other sea-life alike... that's a GREAT! way to save the environement... yup. Put alot of thought into THAT one...

Eric Frei · 17th January 2008, 10:08 PM

The bloody French sunk the Greenpeace Rainbow Warrior a few years back in a covert operation, fancy that, right there in NZ's harbour they blew it up.

That's coz the French were coming to the pacific to "test" their nukes.

Irony is that the ringleader resides in USA now although USA says no terrorists to live here ... but the culprit sells arms to USA.

Rainbow Warrior ringleader heads firm selling arms to US government | Environment | The Guardian

Quote:

The French intelligence officer who led the 1985 bombing of the Rainbow Warrior, the Greenpeace ship protesting against nuclear tests in the Pacific, now lives in America where he heads an arms firm selling weapons to the FBI, Pentagon, and the department of homeland security, the Guardian has learned.

Officials from the state department, the department of homeland security, the FBI and the French embassy would not comment directly on Mr Dillais's presence in the US

Therrin · 17th January 2008, 10:18 PM

The French need their nukes like a eunich needs condoms.....
I mean hey, if you'd never use it, why have it right?

They already have the market cornered in white-flag production facilities, as well as the world's best white-flag waving training program... why would they need nukes?

Eric Frei · 17th January 2008, 10:23 PM

I dunno, but we got the chits with them coming here and nuking the ocean ... still radioactive and toxic. Do some research on increased cancers etc due to the migrating fish that pacific villagers eat.

What do people think it is down here, a free for all funny farm or something, we confiscate illegal fishing boats too from Indonesia etc and lock up boat people, get the message you environmental rapists ... bugger off.

newguy18 · 18th January 2008, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

The French need their nukes like a eunich needs condoms.....
I mean hey, if you'd never use it, why have it right?

They already have the market cornered in white-flag production facilities, as well as the world's best white-flag waving training program... why would they need nukes?

This just in france surrendered to al quaeda this morning after the terrorists defeated they're military capabiliteis by blowing up thier white flag factories.

Eric Frei · 18th January 2008, 03:52 PM

Australia picked up the protesters but the Japs are pissed right off, no cave in from protest for releasing people!

They also were going to throw the blokes overboard, bloody idiots!

Source: Anti-whale activists 'would do it again' - World - theage.com.au

Read the message Jap whalers. BUGGER OFF!

Quote:

"The fact of the matter is they are illegally whaling near a whale sanctuary and illegally whaling in Australian waters,'' he told 3AW.

"I feel that we have the right to inform them of that and inform them on behalf of the Australian people that they're not welcome down here.''

bigshea13 · 18th January 2008, 04:31 PM

ever heard of bikini atol? someones got to take a stand. by the time the friggin politicians get around to dealin with it, its spiraled out of control. i commend those taking a stand knowing that there will be inevitable consiquences.just because a group{government} is in control doesnt mean they are in the right. if more people took action and did less bitchin alot of the problems would get resolved. most of the time its...shhhhhhhhhhhh! stop talkin about it and theyll forget soon enough. and thats the truth. everyone is so worried about the the price of gas/their 401k/if hillary was genuine when she cried. that shit doesnt matter. if you let assholes destroy the very things that directly effect life what does the rest of it matter. we need to stop thinking about right now and start thinking ahead. the jokers running our countries dont represent "we" the common folk. whens the last time you wore a $100,000.00 siut, took 2 weeks off and flew to your private ranch of 1000acres and wined and dined a group to obtain something in your interest from them. shit, americans are the worst. we produce tons of radioactive waste and them burn it or put it in warheads and even small munitions. that crap travels on the wind around the world and the fall out could land anywhere. barges take trash from costal cities out to sea and dump it. during that first gulf war the US "saved" cash by draining oil into desert sands during changes instead of properly disposing of it. the list goes on and on and on and on and get the drift. if you guys reading this thread really want to make a difference become aware and blow your friggin whistles on these pigs. they are going to ruin it for our children, hell they probably already have.save those whales.

wah! i always feel better after a good rant.

Eric Frei · 7th February 2008, 10:25 PM

The Japs are getting mighty angry now and suggesting Australia is jeopardising their trading relationship with Japan if they continue showing video and pics of whale kills.

Hey Japs, this is a free country and we'll show what the bloody hell we like, shove that in ya pipe! Whale murderers!

Tell me Japs, what is there science doesn't know already that entitles you to kill 1000 whales a year?

Some links:

Customs release graphic evidence of whale slaughter : thewest.com.au

Slaughtered whales not related: Japan - National - theage.com.au

Australia releases Japanese whaling pictures | Reuters

Sky News: Awful whaling images

Quote:

Just hours after the whales were hauled onto the Japanese whaling vessel, the Yushin Maru, they were butchered and put into cold storage.

And the link to a video

timesofmalta.com - Articles

newguy18 · 7th February 2008, 11:58 PM

thats just awful.

bigshea13 · 8th February 2008, 05:44 PM

time to chum the waters for the great whites. build some harnesses and troll with the little japs. i dont know what they need whales for. the us pretty much flipped the bill for their entire nations rejuvination after the war. i almost wish some one would bomb us...then maybe our gov would spend some of our money here at home. greedy little bastards!

Eric Frei · 10th February 2008, 03:53 PM

And Norway does it too.

Norway keeps whaling quota, draws ire | Environment | Reuters

Quote:

Fri Feb 8, 2008 1:59pm EST

By Wojciech Moskwa

OSLO (Reuters) - Norway has set a commercial whaling quota of 1,052 minke whales in 2008, unchanged from last year, drawing criticism from environmental groups pressuring Oslo to join the international community and call off its hunts.

Plus more ... go to the link

Eric Frei · 14th February 2008, 08:12 AM

Whilst the Japs have been confronting us in Canberra their own media exposed this story. How disgusting, the whale meat wasted anyway.

AdelaideNow... Rotting whale meat mountain

Quote:

February 13, 2008 08:00am

JAPAN's whalers are going broke and have been forced to slash prices because no one wants to eat their growing mountain of whale meat.

The farcical truth of Japan's whaling industry was exposed yesterday by Japanese media reports that the Institute for Cetacean Research is struggling to repay $37 million in government subsidies.

The report came as Japanese embassy officials made a stern protest in Canberra over the Federal Government's release of shocking whaling photographs.

The ICR, responsible for Japan's lethal "research operation", is flooding Japan with cheap whale meat that it cannot sell, according to the reports in respected newspaper Asahi Shimbun.

Meat and other parts of whales killed during ICR "scientific research" in the Southern Ocean is sold to a private fisheries company Kyodo Senpaku, which manages the sale of whale meat in the Japanese market. But while ICR has consistently increased the number of whales it kills ? by 30 per cent between 2005 and 2006 ? there has been no rise in domestic demand for whale meat or products.

Greenpeace Australia Pacific whales campaign director Rob Nicholl said the losses were further proof that there was no market for whale meat in Japan.

newguy18 · 14th February 2008, 09:42 AM

Good maybe the japs will quit now.There is no good reason to kill whales.

treevet · 14th February 2008, 11:06 AM

See any analogies between whales and trees?

newguy18 · 14th February 2008, 03:34 PM

for whales theres p.e.t.a[people eating tasty animals.

]and for trees there so called enviromentalists.

treevet · 14th February 2008, 03:52 PM

"People eating tasty animals"

Eric Frei · 20th February 2008, 06:08 PM

Norway to hunt 1052 whales in 2008 | IceNews - Daily News

Quote:

IceNews - Daily News

News and ePR for Northern Europe and Scandinavia
Norway to hunt 1052 whales in 2008

By Chris Bolwig on Feb 19, 2008 in Norway, Society

Norway has announced its whale quota for 2008 and plans to hunt over a thousand minke whales.

Norway’s Fisheries Ministry said that the quota has remained unchanged from last year. Though it includes 97 whales that were not caught during previous whaling seasons.

The majority of the whales will be taken from the coastal areas around the Barents Sea, Svalbard and the North Sea.

Whaling in recent years has been adversely affected by bad weather conditions and rising prices of fuel. In particular, the waters of north-eastern Iceland, around the island of Jan Mayen, have proven difficult for whaling operations.

There are seven kinds of great whales, among which the minke are the smallest. The government of Norway fears that without whaling, the minke whale population’s growth could adversely affect fish stocks in the region.

“The total stock size of central and north Atlantic minke whales is close to 70,000 animals, of which around 43,600 are in Icelandic coastal waters,” said a statement from the government. “The catches are clearly sustainable and therefore consistent with the principle of sustainable development.”

Yeah, I like the way one nation makes claim to the free ocean, if many thought they were entitled to take 1000+ whales then how many would there be?

More wankers. Grow ya fish like a crop ya vikings!

Eric Frei · 3rd March 2008, 09:04 PM

Disruption is being stepped up.

The Age: national, world, business, entertainment, sport and technology news from Melbourne's leading newspaper.

They found the big mother ship (Nisshin Maru) and are following it, was hiding in heavy ice in Porpoise Bay, which is about 2200 nautical miles south-west of Hobart.

whislt the Aussie govt called for calm and said stop throwing crap at them, I say throw more crap! They were chucking stink bombs. LOL

FlashD · 4th March 2008, 02:59 PM

i swear, our world's going to hell in a hand basket. it makes me sick. people are perfectly willing to crap all over everything if they can make a dollar at it. the worst thing is that the only people that can do anything about it (gov't officials) are the people who contribute the crap pile. personally i have great plans for america, but no one seems to be fond of the socialist states of america.

Eric Frei · 4th March 2008, 07:18 PM

FlashD, imagine the motto ... in corporations we trust.

Eric Frei · 28th June 2009, 10:52 PM

Have a crack at this BS ....

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/opinion/28sun3.html

Quote:

A Non-Ban on Whaling

At this point in its troubled history, it appears that the main function of the International Whaling Commission, which met last week on the Portuguese island of Madeira, is to ensure its own survival — and with it, the survival of a 40-year-old loophole-ridden “ban” on commercial whaling that is not really a ban at all.

Only a few seagoing nations kill whales; Japan, Iceland and Norway are the most important. Japan exploits a loophole that allows killing whales for scientific research. Iceland and Norway simply ignore the ban, without penalty. Most other nations are opposed to whaling, yet the lobbying to grant more exceptions continues.

This year, Greenland, with heavy backing from Denmark, asked permission to kill 50 endangered humpback whales over the next five years. A decision was postponed until the next meeting. The commission and its members should use the time to think not only about Greenland’s request but about the treaty itself — and whether the time has come to ban all whaling for any purpose.

Greenland said it wanted the endangered humpbacks for aboriginal subsistence — to feed its indigenous population. Minor exceptions to the ban have in fact been granted for subsistence and cultural hunting. But in Denmark’s case, as conservation groups rightly noted, this was thinly disguised cover for commercial whaling.

Indeed, the monetary value of whales — as much as $100,000 for a single minke whale — almost guarantees that they will be sold commercially, whether they’re killed for “research” or subsistence. Meanwhile, the appetite to resume open, aboveboard commercial whaling grows stronger, especially as whale numbers — though they remain far below historic levels — recover.

The commission’s fear is that renegotiating or eliminating the exceptions will cause the original agreement to unravel, possibly leading to the destruction of the group and the full-scale resumption of commercial whaling. But the issue here is not the survival of a bureaucracy but the survival of the whales, which face a range of new threats, from habitat loss to climate change.

The commission’s nonwhaling members, the United States included, should press for a complete ban.

Eric Frei · 7th January 2010, 03:09 PM

Here's the youtube footage.

YouTube - Anti-whaling protest boat is sunk by whalers

Gillard orders probe into whaling clash - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Sumomosr · 10th January 2010, 12:13 PM

I watched that boat travel down the Waikato River last year on it's way to join the protest fleet. I wished them Godspeed but felt it's destruction was inevitable given that the Jap butchers have no scruples in their quest for whale meat to satisfy an egalitarian blood-lust.

I supported Project Jonah since they came to our school in 1974 and explained how the Japs were destroying a species for mere pecuniary gain in the name of 'Research'.

I travelled to visit the Rainbow Warrior as she lay on her side in Auckland after the French murdered her photographer in their bungled but successful attempt to thwart anti-nuclear protest.

I feel the time for 'peaceful' protest is nearing an end and am actually looking forward to the day one of these protest groups buys a surplus Russian submarine and actually sinks the Japs/Norwegians/Danes. Listen to 'them' howl then...

What is disappointing is the powerlessness of the Oz/NZ governments in such situations - "We have objected most strongly... blah blah.." We ''urge all parties... blabber blabber'' ...

Send warships...

Fire a torpedo...

Apologise for the 'mistake' ,,,

See who wants to crew a Jap whaler after that ? ? ?

Thanks Ekka, for allowing free speech to continue.

vl2007 · 10th January 2010, 11:00 PM

let them

Tree huggers are forming to kill the axe men...are you for that?

LeifR · 11th January 2010, 08:41 PM

I thought we are supposed not to discuss politics?? This is politics, ok?

Eric Frei · 11th January 2010, 08:46 PM

No, it's killing whales ... those things that swim around in the ocean.

List all the countries that kill them, I don't mind.

Eric Frei · 3rd January 2011, 12:03 AM

It's on again!

Whaling clash during Antarctic hunt - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

And cop a load of the Japs attitude.

Greens meet with Japanese over whaling

Quote:

December 21, 2010

Greens leader Bob Brown says he has met with Japan's ambassador and told him that whaling is doing his country "great damage".

He says he told Shigekazu Sato that whatever victory Japan thinks it has in killing whales is "a pyrrhic victory".

"I did describe this bloody business of whaling in very direct terms to the ambassador.

"I was able to ask him if he, as a Christmas gesture, might not give me the co-ordinates of the whaling fleet and update them every other day. He declined to be so generous."

Senator Brown also called on the federal government to release the most recent whaling photographs, which he said are being kept hidden "in the minister for the environment's drawer".

"That sort of cowardly approach to Tokyo is not representing what the Australian people think about the cowardly business of whaling," Senator Brown told reporters.

"If they want to go down there and slaughter whales in our oceans or the oceans south of New Zealand, let the rest of the world see what they're doing."

He described Japan's proposal to double the area in which its whalers can operate as a ruse.

Japan has informed the International Whaling Commission that it intends to increase the area in which it will hunt for whales south of Australia and New Zealand.

Senator Brown says the move is designed to make it easier to evade Sea Shepherd protest ships in the Southern Ocean.

He described the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society as "unshakeable".

"I think they'll be right onto them and their harpooning. And I think that the Japanese whaling fleet's just going to bring trouble for the Japanese image around the world."

The federal government should send a ship to patrol the Southern Ocean or undertake aerial surveillance of the whaling area.

"But failing that we should have aerial surveillance, which the New Zealanders are contemplating I understand," he said.

"It's really important that the Australian government seriously consider that option - not only for the safety of the whales, but for the safety of the campaigners who are down there."

Darrell Mcleod · 3rd January 2011, 07:56 AM

Totally agree - and

This comes up every year as Christmas approaches and the Japanese persist

People in the world against whaling – should NOT buy Japanese goods

Then again Australia has a lot to answer for also for allowing live transport of sheep to the Middle East – saw some footage on telly a couple of weeks back that made we want to puke

It is by no means a perfect world

The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good people to sit back and do nothing

The Ozzie government is pee poor dealing with such issues as are others

For me – watch this and understand what it really means

YouTube - John Farnham - You're The Voice Live - Arias 2003

17th January 2008, 07:33 PM	#2
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,696	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests Yes there ships sinking would be good,the Japanese Gov needs a reality check.I dont blame the USA for one second for nuking them in ww2 __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

17th January 2008, 09:36 PM	#3
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests OMG! That's one way to put it. I don't know about sinking ships though... I think you have to have at least a Greenpeace membership to do that kinda thing Come now, lets think of this... we sink the ships, which then leak oil and diesel fuel into the ocean...which in turn kills whales and other sea-life alike... that's a GREAT! way to save the environement... yup. Put alot of thought into THAT one...

17th January 2008, 10:18 PM	#5
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests The French need their nukes like a eunich needs condoms..... I mean hey, if you'd never use it, why have it right? They already have the market cornered in white-flag production facilities, as well as the world's best white-flag waving training program... why would they need nukes?

17th January 2008, 10:23 PM	#6
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,814	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests I dunno, but we got the chits with them coming here and nuking the ocean ... still radioactive and toxic. Do some research on increased cancers etc due to the migrating fish that pacific villagers eat. What do people think it is down here, a free for all funny farm or something, we confiscate illegal fishing boats too from Indonesia etc and lock up boat people, get the message you environmental rapists ... bugger off. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

18th January 2008, 04:31 PM	#9
bigshea13 Former Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: super 8 motels Posts: 361	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests ever heard of bikini atol? someones got to take a stand. by the time the friggin politicians get around to dealin with it, its spiraled out of control. i commend those taking a stand knowing that there will be inevitable consiquences.just because a group{government} is in control doesnt mean they are in the right. if more people took action and did less bitchin alot of the problems would get resolved. most of the time its...shhhhhhhhhhhh! stop talkin about it and theyll forget soon enough. and thats the truth. everyone is so worried about the the price of gas/their 401k/if hillary was genuine when she cried. that shit doesnt matter. if you let assholes destroy the very things that directly effect life what does the rest of it matter. we need to stop thinking about right now and start thinking ahead. the jokers running our countries dont represent "we" the common folk. whens the last time you wore a $100,000.00 siut, took 2 weeks off and flew to your private ranch of 1000acres and wined and dined a group to obtain something in your interest from them. shit, americans are the worst. we produce tons of radioactive waste and them burn it or put it in warheads and even small munitions. that crap travels on the wind around the world and the fall out could land anywhere. barges take trash from costal cities out to sea and dump it. during that first gulf war the US "saved" cash by draining oil into desert sands during changes instead of properly disposing of it. the list goes on and on and on and on and get the drift. if you guys reading this thread really want to make a difference become aware and blow your friggin whistles on these pigs. they are going to ruin it for our children, hell they probably already have.save those whales. wah! i always feel better after a good rant.

7th February 2008, 11:58 PM	#11
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests thats just awful. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

8th February 2008, 05:44 PM	#12
bigshea13 Former Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: super 8 motels Posts: 361	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests time to chum the waters for the great whites. build some harnesses and troll with the little japs. i dont know what they need whales for. the us pretty much flipped the bill for their entire nations rejuvination after the war. i almost wish some one would bomb us...then maybe our gov would spend some of our money here at home. greedy little bastards!

14th February 2008, 09:42 AM	#15
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests Good maybe the japs will quit now.There is no good reason to kill whales. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

14th February 2008, 11:06 AM	#16
treevet Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,131	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests See any analogies between whales and trees?

14th February 2008, 03:34 PM	#17
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests for whales theres p.e.t.a[people eating tasty animals.]and for trees there so called enviromentalists. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

14th February 2008, 03:52 PM	#18
treevet Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,131	Re: Japanese Whaling Protests "People eating tasty animals"

3rd March 2008, 09:04 PM	#20
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,814	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests Disruption is being stepped up. The Age: national, world, business, entertainment, sport and technology news from Melbourne's leading newspaper. They found the big mother ship (Nisshin Maru) and are following it, was hiding in heavy ice in Porpoise Bay, which is about 2200 nautical miles south-west of Hobart. whislt the Aussie govt called for calm and said stop throwing crap at them, I say throw more crap! They were chucking stink bombs. LOL __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

4th March 2008, 02:59 PM	#21
FlashD Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 213	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests i swear, our world's going to hell in a hand basket. it makes me sick. people are perfectly willing to crap all over everything if they can make a dollar at it. the worst thing is that the only people that can do anything about it (gov't officials) are the people who contribute the crap pile. personally i have great plans for america, but no one seems to be fond of the socialist states of america.

4th March 2008, 07:18 PM	#22
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,814	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests FlashD, imagine the motto ... in corporations we trust. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

10th January 2010, 12:13 PM	#25
Sumomosr Sappling Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Auckland. NZ Posts: 14	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests I watched that boat travel down the Waikato River last year on it's way to join the protest fleet. I wished them Godspeed but felt it's destruction was inevitable given that the Jap butchers have no scruples in their quest for whale meat to satisfy an egalitarian blood-lust. I supported Project Jonah since they came to our school in 1974 and explained how the Japs were destroying a species for mere pecuniary gain in the name of 'Research'. I travelled to visit the Rainbow Warrior as she lay on her side in Auckland after the French murdered her photographer in their bungled but successful attempt to thwart anti-nuclear protest. I feel the time for 'peaceful' protest is nearing an end and am actually looking forward to the day one of these protest groups buys a surplus Russian submarine and actually sinks the Japs/Norwegians/Danes. Listen to 'them' howl then... What is disappointing is the powerlessness of the Oz/NZ governments in such situations - "We have objected most strongly... blah blah.." We ''urge all parties... blabber blabber'' ... Send warships... Fire a torpedo... Apologise for the 'mistake' ,,, See who wants to crew a Jap whaler after that ? ? ? Thanks Ekka, for allowing free speech to continue. __________________ "Take it easy - But take it." Woody Guthrie.

10th January 2010, 11:00 PM	#26
vl2007 Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 421	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests let them Tree huggers are forming to kill the axe men...are you for that?

11th January 2010, 08:41 PM	#27
LeifR Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 285	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests I thought we are supposed not to discuss politics?? This is politics, ok? __________________ My place - Bjørndalen. http://www.youtube.com/user/MultiVoff

11th January 2010, 08:46 PM	#28
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,814	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests No, it's killing whales ... those things that swim around in the ocean. List all the countries that kill them, I don't mind. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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