Japanese| Norway Whaling Protests

Eric Frei · 3rd January 2011, 07:03 AM

Politicians are afraid of the economic backlash if we hassle the Japs.

Have you seen the movie "The Cove"? If not it's a must (usually a DVD in Blockbuster etc .... ask for it) but do not let little kids watch it. See what the govt is covering up in Japan, even poisoning their own people.

The Cove Movie: Trailer

Brother Bob · 17th January 2011, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Frei

The bloody French sunk the Greenpeace Rainbow Warrior a few years back in a covert operation, fancy that, right there in NZ's harbour they blew it up.

That's coz the French were coming to the pacific to "test" their nukes.

Irony is that the ringleader resides in USA now although USA says no terrorists to live here ... but the culprit sells arms to USA.

Rainbow Warrior ringleader heads firm selling arms to US government | Environment | The Guardian

Why would the U.S. buy arms from this guy? We make most of what the rest of the world wants and we sell to them! The U.S. has stuff that is mind boggling.

Eric Frei · 17th January 2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bob

Why would the U.S. buy arms from this guy? We make most of what the rest of the world wants and we sell to them! The U.S. has stuff that is mind boggling.

The article writes:-

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The French intelligence officer who led the 1985 bombing of the Rainbow Warrior, the Greenpeace ship protesting against nuclear tests in the Pacific, now lives in America where he heads an arms firm selling weapons to the FBI, Pentagon, and the department of homeland security, the Guardian has learned.

The presence in America of Louis-Pierre Dillais and the sensitive nature of his dealings with the US government has led to calls from Greenpeace for his deportation.

Clearly the US doesn't have everything just like Iraq never had weapons of mass destruction!

Brother Bob · 18th January 2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Frei

The article writes:-

Clearly the US doesn't have everything just like Iraq never had weapons of mass destruction!

So he works for FNH Herstal. They bought out Browning and Winchester, both U.S. arms manufacturers. A Belgian owned company........... FNH U.S. I've read one side of the story, but can't understand why the U.S. would harbor a known terrorist. This just doesn't pass the smell test. We've deported/extradited people over child pornography and/or rape charges from a foreign country. As far as weapons goes, it is still Winchester and Browning, U.S. companies who's parent company is Belgian.

Eric Frei · 18th January 2011, 04:44 PM

Well, if you do find out let us know, I have no idea. Does seems a little fishy.

Brother Bob · 18th January 2011, 11:40 PM

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Well, if you do find out let us know, I have no idea. Does seems a little fishy.

Yeah, this is just one "whale" of a story. LOL!

Paul Toivonen · 23rd January 2012, 06:00 PM

It seems the anti whaling mob conviniently overlook the cultural reasons for the whale harvest.
They are all for land rights and cultural values in the back yard, but the rest of the world cannot ?
How would they feel if told they could no longer eat haggis?

Eric Frei · 23rd January 2012, 06:50 PM

I do not think they conveniently look over anything.

But I do think that to suggest this:-

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They are all for land rights and cultural values in the back yard, but the rest of the world cannot ?

Demonstrates how you think.

They are all eh, WOW, all of them.

I am against whaling but do not support land rights and assess cultural values on case by case merit basis.

Aboriginals here agreed to no longer hunt dugongs for 5 years.

Now haggis is made from sheep, and sheep are farmed.

Paul Toivonen · 24th January 2012, 06:29 AM

No problems Eric,
but you still have not addressed the cultural reasons for the whale harvest.
To pre-empt. the "scientific research" reason given by Japan; We all know this is a handy little loophole so dont bother.

Eric Frei · 24th January 2012, 08:49 AM

Cultural reasons?

More like they haven't evolved reasons.

They eat whale meat, they also eat dolphin and maim their own people's with it's toxicity.

I'm not here to address their cultural issues, that's their problem but I certainly can have an opinion of them, they have a barbaric background.

Paul Toivonen · 24th January 2012, 09:47 AM

I find the harvest of wild animals (who have lived a life free to roam as they please) far more humane and certainly less "barbaric" than the battery farmed meat we consume by the millions.
Each to their own though.

Eric Frei · 24th January 2012, 04:10 PM

You probably would.

3rd January 2011, 07:03 AM	#31
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,993	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests Politicians are afraid of the economic backlash if we hassle the Japs. Have you seen the movie "The Cove"? If not it's a must (usually a DVD in Blockbuster etc .... ask for it) but do not let little kids watch it. See what the govt is covering up in Japan, even poisoning their own people. The Cove Movie: Trailer __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

18th January 2011, 04:44 PM	#35
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,993	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests Well, if you do find out let us know, I have no idea. Does seems a little fishy. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

23rd January 2012, 06:00 PM	#37
Paul Toivonen Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AUS Posts: 134	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests It seems the anti whaling mob conviniently overlook the cultural reasons for the whale harvest. They are all for land rights and cultural values in the back yard, but the rest of the world cannot ? How would they feel if told they could no longer eat haggis?

24th January 2012, 06:29 AM	#39
Paul Toivonen Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AUS Posts: 134	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests No problems Eric, but you still have not addressed the cultural reasons for the whale harvest. To pre-empt. the "scientific research" reason given by Japan; We all know this is a handy little loophole so dont bother.

24th January 2012, 08:49 AM	#40
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,993	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests Cultural reasons? More like they haven't evolved reasons. They eat whale meat, they also eat dolphin and maim their own people's with it's toxicity. I'm not here to address their cultural issues, that's their problem but I certainly can have an opinion of them, they have a barbaric background. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

24th January 2012, 09:47 AM	#41
Paul Toivonen Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: AUS Posts: 134	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests I find the harvest of wild animals (who have lived a life free to roam as they please) far more humane and certainly less "barbaric" than the battery farmed meat we consume by the millions. Each to their own though.

24th January 2012, 04:10 PM	#42
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,993	Re: Japanese\| Norway Whaling Protests You probably would. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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