Fueling Tips| Fuel Saving Tips

a_lopa · 28th April 2008, 03:13 PM

ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKKIE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre.

In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation.

Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount.

ANOTHER REMINDER, IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom.

Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money.

vl2007 · 28th April 2008, 04:47 PM

excellent tip.

And to the oil companies, you bastards!

newguy18 · 28th April 2008, 05:46 PM

Its supposed to be 4 bucks a gallon here by memorial day.

RandyMac · 28th April 2008, 08:55 PM

As of today, reg goes for $4.05 a gallon, thank God I can walk to work.

newguy18 · 28th April 2008, 09:02 PM

3.70 a gallon,tommorow who knows.

Ekka · 29th April 2008, 01:02 AM

Thanks, I usually buy in the morning, handy having a servo just down the road.

It's $1.45 litre here.

Maybe we should convert this thread to a fuel saving tips thread ... rather than just biarch

1/ I fitted one of these devices to my stump ute and stump grinder, they're cheap and makes sense. I cannot give exact details as to improvements but it appears and feels to work.

Fuelstar - less fuel cleaner air
Fuelstar fuel saving catalysts at Autoparts Wholesalers

2/ Another top tip guys, check your tyres, down on air pressure means more drag/friction etc so I go to the higher pressure extremes, 45psi in my tyres and trailer.

3/ Most cars etc are injected these days. Lots of bullshit products that clean injectors on the market, just add to fuel, around $10 .... lots dont work, is a con. Inlaw is a motor mechanic, simply took the injectors out and dropped them in the ultrasonic cleaner, blew out an fit ... major improvement. That gum needs to be vibrated off. Results were tested with exhaust analyser and proved correct.

This is a real dumbing down, if you get the injectors out yourself and get them cleaned it wont cost hundreds of dollars, some are very simple to remove.

4/ Oil, yes engine oil.

I can say that the lower viscosity and synthetic give better performance and better mileage.

If your vehicle can run a 5W - 15W then run it, dont get a 10W - 30W for instance. Modern engines are designed for lighter oils than the old bangers of the 70's with their 20W - 50W ..... I can say even a blended synthetic shits on the good ole dinosaur oil. You can buy 5L of blended for around $35 ... fully synthetic is around $60 but dino crap as cheap as $20 (and even less at times)

5/ Leaky exhausts, dont know why but you'd think if there was a hole in the muffler or pipe and gas getting out it would make things better. Not so, and buggered if I know why, get a good quality performance flo muffler and fix any leaks.

Stopped at the lights? Long time for the red to change to green? Stick it in neutral, if you have a manual get ya foot off the clutch and give it a rest, for auto's, just get used to bumping it into gear before you flatten it.

6/ Airconditioning, been long proven is better on fuel than driving with windows down.

7/ Colder fuel is denser fuel, better performance. I have noticed modern engines run quite warm compared to the old bangers. The engine bay is choked with bullshit and the radiators have lots of fans, aircon coils, trans coils etc. Try to improve airflow beneath the bonnet (hood for yanks), and snorkels for air are premo!

TrevMcRev · 29th April 2008, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

7/ Colder fuel is denser fuel, better performance. I have noticed modern engines run quite warm compared to the old bangers. The engine bay is choked with bullshit and the radiators have lots of fans, aircon coils, trans coils etc. Try to improve airflow beneath the bonnet (hood for yanks), and snorkels for air are premo!

Colder air temp makes a big difference on turbocharged engines.

The rally car has bags more power when its 5 deg C running though the mountains at 2am than on a 38 deg afternoon.

Wait, this was about saving fuel not more power

newguy18 · 29th April 2008, 05:28 AM

It goes without saying that you need to clean your spark plugs as well.Clean or replace about every 25k to 40k miles.Also if your have a carbuerated vehicle spring for a really good tuneup go with a racing coil,8mm wires at a minmum 8.5mm are better,header plugs,if electronic ignition replace the pick up coil with one made by the same co that makes the coil[accel for example] or points and a condenser from the same co.It can run you up too almost 200 in parts but were are talking about a 4to 5 mpg gain here.Also get the biggest carb you can for yuor vehicle,more but less fuel consumption,it doesn't make sense but its true.

pomme · 30th April 2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyMac

As of today, reg goes for $4.05 a gallon, thank God I can walk to work.

send some here we re paying over £5.00 per gallon over $us10.00
there s a rumble starting

clementine · 1st May 2008, 12:34 PM

Use the gas pedal in a smooth, gradual fashion. Flooring it wastes loads of fuel.
Look far ahead! If you can avoid stopping then do. Give yourself plenty of time and space, if you see the traffic ahead has stopped waiting for a red light or someone to make a turn or something then slow down and they may have made the turn before you have to stop.
Leave the engine running if you only intend to stop a few minutes (if it's safe to) especially if it's a diesel. Starting uses more fuel than idling it for a few minutes.
If you have a load on your truck going up a hill, don't bother giving it more gas in the same gear as you begin to slow down, change down as you here the revs dropping and again be smooth on the throttle.

Ekka · 1st May 2008, 11:53 PM

Get your Everyday Rewards card from Woolworth's, register before 29June2008 and receive 10c a litre off on one transaction.

It's a new card system so you dont have to carry them dockets around.

https://www.everydayrewards.com.au/

You can link the cards to.

So mum does the shopping but workers etc use the fuel savings.

28th April 2008, 03:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
a_lopa Astronaut Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 837	Fueling Tips\| Fuel Saving Tips ONLY BUY OR FILL UP YOUR CAR OR BIKKIE IN THE EARLY MORNING WHEN THE GROUND TEMPERATURE IS STILL COLD. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground, the denser the fuel, when it gets warmer petrol expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening.... your litre is not exactly a litre. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the petrol, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products play an important role. A 1degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps. WHEN YOU'RE FILLING UP, DO NOT SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER OF THE NOZZLE TO A FAST MODE. If you look, you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode, you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapours that are created, while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapour return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapour. Those vapours are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TIPS IS TO FILL UP WHEN YOUR TANK IS HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more fuel you have in your tank, the less air occupying its empty space. Petrol evaporates faster than you can imagine. Petroleum storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the petrol and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated, so that every litre is actually the exact amount. ANOTHER REMINDER, IF THERE IS A FUEL TRUCK PUMPING INTO THE STORAGE TANKS, WHEN YOU STOP TO BUY, DO NOT FILL UP - most likely the petrol/diesel is being stirred up as the fuel is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope, this will help you get the maximum value for your money. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

28th April 2008, 04:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
vl2007 Cruisin' Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Keys Posts: 84	Re: Fueling Tips excellent tip. And to the oil companies, you bastards!

28th April 2008, 05:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: Fueling Tips Its supposed to be 4 bucks a gallon here by memorial day. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

28th April 2008, 08:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
RandyMac Cruisin' Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NW California Posts: 68	Re: Fueling Tips As of today, reg goes for $4.05 a gallon, thank God I can walk to work. __________________ RandyMac

28th April 2008, 09:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: Fueling Tips 3.70 a gallon,tommorow who knows. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

29th April 2008, 01:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,664	Re: Fueling Tips Thanks, I usually buy in the morning, handy having a servo just down the road. It's $1.45 litre here. Maybe we should convert this thread to a fuel saving tips thread ... rather than just biarch 1/ I fitted one of these devices to my stump ute and stump grinder, they're cheap and makes sense. I cannot give exact details as to improvements but it appears and feels to work. Fuelstar - less fuel cleaner air Fuelstar fuel saving catalysts at Autoparts Wholesalers 2/ Another top tip guys, check your tyres, down on air pressure means more drag/friction etc so I go to the higher pressure extremes, 45psi in my tyres and trailer. 3/ Most cars etc are injected these days. Lots of bullshit products that clean injectors on the market, just add to fuel, around $10 .... lots dont work, is a con. Inlaw is a motor mechanic, simply took the injectors out and dropped them in the ultrasonic cleaner, blew out an fit ... major improvement. That gum needs to be vibrated off. Results were tested with exhaust analyser and proved correct. This is a real dumbing down, if you get the injectors out yourself and get them cleaned it wont cost hundreds of dollars, some are very simple to remove. 4/ Oil, yes engine oil. I can say that the lower viscosity and synthetic give better performance and better mileage. If your vehicle can run a 5W - 15W then run it, dont get a 10W - 30W for instance. Modern engines are designed for lighter oils than the old bangers of the 70's with their 20W - 50W ..... I can say even a blended synthetic shits on the good ole dinosaur oil. You can buy 5L of blended for around $35 ... fully synthetic is around $60 but dino crap as cheap as $20 (and even less at times) 5/ Leaky exhausts, dont know why but you'd think if there was a hole in the muffler or pipe and gas getting out it would make things better. Not so, and buggered if I know why, get a good quality performance flo muffler and fix any leaks. Stopped at the lights? Long time for the red to change to green? Stick it in neutral, if you have a manual get ya foot off the clutch and give it a rest, for auto's, just get used to bumping it into gear before you flatten it. 6/ Airconditioning, been long proven is better on fuel than driving with windows down. 7/ Colder fuel is denser fuel, better performance. I have noticed modern engines run quite warm compared to the old bangers. The engine bay is choked with bullshit and the radiators have lots of fans, aircon coils, trans coils etc. Try to improve airflow beneath the bonnet (hood for yanks), and snorkels for air are premo! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

29th April 2008, 05:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,185	Re: Fueling Tips\| Fuel Saving Tips It goes without saying that you need to clean your spark plugs as well.Clean or replace about every 25k to 40k miles.Also if your have a carbuerated vehicle spring for a really good tuneup go with a racing coil,8mm wires at a minmum 8.5mm are better,header plugs,if electronic ignition replace the pick up coil with one made by the same co that makes the coil[accel for example] or points and a condenser from the same co.It can run you up too almost 200 in parts but were are talking about a 4to 5 mpg gain here.Also get the biggest carb you can for yuor vehicle,more but less fuel consumption,it doesn't make sense but its true. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

1st May 2008, 12:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
clementine Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Portugal Posts: 252	Re: Fueling Tips\| Fuel Saving Tips Use the gas pedal in a smooth, gradual fashion. Flooring it wastes loads of fuel. Look far ahead! If you can avoid stopping then do. Give yourself plenty of time and space, if you see the traffic ahead has stopped waiting for a red light or someone to make a turn or something then slow down and they may have made the turn before you have to stop. Leave the engine running if you only intend to stop a few minutes (if it's safe to) especially if it's a diesel. Starting uses more fuel than idling it for a few minutes. If you have a load on your truck going up a hill, don't bother giving it more gas in the same gear as you begin to slow down, change down as you here the revs dropping and again be smooth on the throttle. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons - for you are crunchy and taste of chicken! Builder in Central Portugal

1st May 2008, 11:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,664	Re: Fueling Tips\| Fuel Saving Tips Get your Everyday Rewards card from Woolworth's, register before 29June2008 and receive 10c a litre off on one transaction. It's a new card system so you dont have to carry them dockets around. https://www.everydayrewards.com.au/ You can link the cards to. So mum does the shopping but workers etc use the fuel savings. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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