Do ghosts exist?

newguy18

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Therrin

It's actually my super-effective method at trying to prove that ghosts actually do exist, and they live among you.

Bruce Hopf

One Night, just after I started with my Wife, and I had an Argument with her over the Phone, I went to Bed. All of a Sudden, I heard the Garage Basement Door Slam Shut. Then I heard another Door in the Basement Slam Shut.
I heard Foot Steps walking across the Basement Floor, and Foot Steps coming up the Steps from the Basement.
I was at the Bathroom Door, that leads into the Hall Way for the Basement Stairs, Kitchen, and the Back Steps ready to open the Door. I figured who ever it was, was going to be going back down the Stairs, a Heck of a lot Faster, than they came up. Once I figured that the person, was almost at the very Top Step, I flung the Door Open, and was ready to Punch who ever it was in the Face, and send him Flying.
I rounded the Door Jam with my Fist Ready to throw, and I was staring at Nothing.
I figured that it was my Dad, letting me know, that I was not alone. Different Times, he will turn on my Wife to Be's Cell Phone, and let us know, that he is around.
Some times, while we are listening to Music, and if there is a Song, that Dad really likes, that Song will Play Over and Over from Start to Finish.
So Yes, I believe in Ghosts, and I too have seen a UFO. Bruce.

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Eric Frei

Well, there was some spirits in my house tonight.

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hanging from a rope

yeah they do,i won a bid for mt pleasent cemetery a few years back great work quiet peace full, but you always get that your being watched feeling being tapped on the shoulder no ones there,voices that was in they older part of the cemetery that was eerie as hell,i had two guys ask to be layed off instead of working there,so hell yeah ghosts exist,to be honest with you id bid that job again ghosts or not it was a good job...well my tree service must have gotten great word of mouth from they other side............your friend doug

hanging from a rope

isnt that the truth,and ghosts dont nagg an nagg..........

Drouin Tree Service

Ive seen a few ghosts,right after a bottle of turkey

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No Spirits here, just Coopers Lager.

Eric Frei

Well, the poll has gone 20 in favour of ghosts existing and 18 saying they dont.

Now I can see how religion works it marvels.

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Jeff Darby

Greek fighter jets scrambled to intercept UFO not ghosts but the next best thing...the answer is out there!...LOL

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Eric Frei

Oh now UFO's are totally different to ghosts.

You see, the American's have a few, you know, they got them from Roswell and keep them at Area51.

Here, check this crap out ... heck you can click a button and tell your own story.

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hoot gibson

i live in an old , old house , we have a ghost. she is about 7 to 10 years old . dressed in a white party dress , and caries a wraped present . h

newguy18

and how much were you drinking hoot?

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blackoak

Hmmmm, must have been a bad shot

hoot gibson

stone cold sober , everytime we see her . h

newguy18

Pics please,no photochops either.

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Crow Horse

Everyone has a choice in whether to believe in "ghosts" or not. Here's a couple of items that might be worth considering......

Ever since we were small children, we were taught that these things don't exist. We were conditioned to believe they were a figment of an over active imagination so therefore non existent. Psychologists call this Reticular Activating Systems, where the mind screens out images it "sees" that it has conditioned to believe don't exist. It's a self inflicted blindness. Many believe that children have "perfect" vision and as they get older, their vision "narrows" as society's conditioning increases......

That said, as adults our vision is impaired and usually have a great deal of trouble processing events that don't "fit" our conditioning. We tend to look to science to provide explanations as it's considered to be an absolute. The fact is, as technologies improve, our understanding of the world we live in evolves and what was considered to be scientific fact previously sometimes now has been proven wrong or at least different.

Proof is an ambiguous commodity. What some consider proof, others denounce. I suppose everyone has their personal definition or what constitutes proof.

Back in the Seventies, 2 laser physicist under the direction of the CIA were given the task of proving or disproving the existence of the paranormal and if it could be used as a viable intelligence collection method. The Brits, Soviets, Germans, & Chinese were all involved in various uses of the "paranormal" regarding intelligence collection. After 5 years and an endowment of millions of $$'s, the came back and concluded that yes, there is something more than the physical, and yes, it could be taught and used for intelligence collection. They didn't understand how it worked, just that it did. Keep in mind that this is all in a bed of science, not some mystic guru in a white robe.

Skeptics immediately jumped down their throats saying that if they couldn't explain how it worked, then it must not be true. Well, there's not a scientist on the planet that can explain in anything other than theoretical terms how electricity works, yet they use it. They use it on Sundays, when they read from hymnals or other books of worship, praying to an unseen and "unproven" God. Sounds like the classic double standard........

That said, there are many things in this reality that we don't fully understand. My best advice is to have an open mind. Our minds are like a parachute. Both won't work well unless they are open........

To fully understand my point of view, you must first understand my point of reference. My "training" and spiritual evolution has taken me many places and I've been blessed to have been taught by many world class teachers in various realms. The interesting thing is that although they took different approaches, their basic truths were the same....

I can't help myself but to drop names. Not to impress (yes I am proud to have been taught by them as well as getting to know them). Not in order of importance: Tom Brown Jr., Floyd Looks For Buffalo Hand, Dr. Hank Wesselman, Dr. David Morehouse and others who are lesser known.....

So, from a master survivalist based in NA ways, an Ogalala shaman, a highly respected paleo anthropologist, a former Ranger co. commander and CIA remote viewer, I have pulled into my comfort zone an understanding of realms which we cannot "see". My evolution will continue and I can only hope for more great teachers. There is no finish line here.......

No, I haven't lost the plot. Too many things have happen that have been unexplainable in the conventional sense. I KNOW that they were more than a freak occurrence or just a random play of things.......


All Good Medicine,
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Eric Frei

Now lets go a bit deeper, do we all have a predestined fate then?

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Jeff Darby

Hey Crow,

A very well written description of your journey of life, beliefs, philosophies.

To me, you seem to have chosen the path of enlightenment, one of the open mind....or as you portray it like an open parachute, because without either we grow old and stale.

As Ekka has put forward have we a pre- destined fate? who knows really but I think we have to look into our past to not answer this question but to maybe give it some credence.

How many times have you had a near miss, the only thing that really saved you from death in the worst case senario, or bruised and battered in the least.

Myself personaly have experienced this a couple of times in my life, and I will share these experiences with you all, you can judge for yourself, however it made me start to think it was not my time, fate if you like.

Firstly around thirty years ago...yes thats right thirty years ago I was a passenger in a truck and had my elbow out of the window like we all used to do for comfort back then and even now, and something told me to pull my arm in the window, I did imediately, then the side mirror was ripted off the truck by another truck...it was so close to me I felt the rush of wind blow by the side of my upper body, being young and not scared of anything on this planet I just thought to myself I was meant to keep both my arms...luck maybe, or fate.

Another time while working the ground, for my son, as he was up an enormus cypress I was going to walk one side of an old well to grab some deadwood that had just been thrown to the ground, once more something told me to walk on the other side of the well, as I was half way passed the well a large piece of deadwood impacted on the other side of the well where I would been if I did not listen to myself....you might say it was good training that came through, you might be right, but I put it down it was not my time to go!

So for me, I do think fate had something to do with it. Some have this insight from birth, other's go through reall life and death situations to gain an insight like this..others have their hearts ripped out by members of the opposite sex and survive with a greater wisdom, the ability to look into someone and see them for what they are.."the good, the bad, the ugly"

food for thought.
JayD

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Eric Frei

I think we confuse fate or signals with a deeper underlying subconsciousness of awareness.

Let me explain it this way. A child looks up at the stars and sees a lot of twinkling lights, then some-one starts to point out constellations and cross, dippers etc ... from that day forward that child will not see the stars the same again. Ever experienced this with clouds too? You know, what do you see in a cloud and then some-one tells you what they see and you cant get away from that image.

What the mind does is works on images and patterns, at a subconscious level you are not physically aware of.... now this phenomenon when experienced is called Déjà vu. Somewhere you saw (in a movie or brochure long forgotten) an old leaning wooden farm house on a corner of a small town. You happen to go for drive and off the beaten track go through an old town, there you see it, not sure why but you "feel" you've been there before.... the subconscious is joining the dots but your conscious mind hasn't registered it yet.

The arm on the truck window, similar deal. Your subconscious is registering the threat and even not thinking you take action, there's an incident which happened coincidentally just after pulling your arm in. Was it coincidence, fate or about time you stopped that poor practice? After all if another truck hit the mirror it means it was a narrow road or something was triggering your mind of an ailing pattern.

Picking up the dead wood, again a pattern, which side of the well is most likely to receive impact? You went a different route due to some triggering action within your brain, nothing esoteric about that. Perhaps why dumb people dont live as long.

Some people have a lot of intuition, called a "hunch". Likely because they are a little more tuned in to their environment and analyse things a little closer. Some of these people make good palm readers, card readers and glass ball readers ... they're reading you alright, every crease, dirt under nails, clothes, stature, speech, eye contact etc etc etc.

Once a co-worker needed a JP to sign some documents, we were at the customers house, I got a hunch. At smoko I asked the customer what they did and hello, he was a JP. Luck, fate, intuition or what? I had a hunch he was in some sort of civil duties role and seemed versed on a few issues, I figured if he wasn't one he'd know one, so the co-worker got his documents signed.

How about VTA of trees, can you read their history well? Takes me a while to "tune in". Literally have to wander around the tree taking in environment, soil, structures, fauna and other flora, wind directions etc ... start to see things many would walk past .... why certain wounds, how etc.

I think there's more to this than meets the eye for sure, but I think we are yet to know what the human mind is capable of and what the genetic programing is, how do certain species know stuff even when isolated from birth of their elders etc. The 100th monkey syndrome has been dispelled as a myth too.

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Crow Horse

My belief is that we do not have a predestined fate. We always have a choice. What we might have is a probable fate, if we make certain choices. None of it is cast in stone. I also believe that we are "guided" to our probable destiny. If we make the correct choices, then we will realize our true destiny.

Along with being guided along our journey through life, we can also be protected. I once had an experience that saved me from being decapitated and it is this protection that I speak of.

If memory serves me correctly, it was in the early to mid nineties and my quest for my truth was in full swing. I knew and had complete faith in the spiritual realms. For me, there was no doubt....

I was a carpet installer and myself and a crew were working in what was the WTC in a woman's maternity shop after hours, removing the old carpet and installing new. The floor racks with clothing was removed and only the wall racks remained. A co-worker had taped plastic sheeting all along the walls to protect the remaining merchandise. Unknowing to me, he had taped the plastic to a glass shelf in one area. When the job was approaching completion, the foreman began to rip down the plastic. He came around to the area where I was working (I was on my knees doing the last of the cuts) that he ripped the plastic that was taped to the glass shelf. The shelf was 1/2" thick & 24" x 48" glass and it came down.....

Here's where time took on a different meaning and it becomes difficult to explain in understandable terms. I was making the final cuts and instantly a rip, a tear, a porthole in the fabric of time and space/reality opened right in front of me. I KNEW that I must enter and enter I did, much like a high jumper would try to clear the bar although my physical body was completely detached from what i was experiencing. My reaction was automatic, much like instinct. With that, the glass came down like a guillotine and crashed right next to my physical self, exactly where I was formerly working. It would have taken my head right off. It shattered and there was a complete sense of calmness that I knew was not normal for such an event. I also had a knowing that this was a gift that the spirits had presented to me and I was eternally grateful, so I gave a quick prayer of thanks for their help.....

If I had remained totally in the physical, there would not have been time to hear the falling glass, identify & process the threat/danger and then formulate an escape plan. There just wasn't enough time.....

I turned to my co-workers and their faces were white as ghosts. One asked me how I did that and and I really didn't know how to explain it. I ultimately lied, telling them that I heard it and that satisfied them. I knew differently. I never heard it or knew the glass was falling. It seemed easier to tell them what they could understand....

And then there is something that is called subtle influencing, where the Universe is constantly feeding us information about everything there is, very much like a dripping faucet. The big problem is that most of us aren't even aware of it happening. Shamen, regardless of their origin understand this and live a duality where they take one step in the physical and one step in the spirit realm.......

All Good Medicine,
Crow

Crow Horse

JayD,
My take on your experiences is that you have a sensitivity to that inner voice or inner vision AND you listen to it. You had a choice. You could have just as easily dismissed it and paid dearly for ignoring it. I've found that it's never wrong if we listen "purely". Many times what it tells you defies conventional logic but I try to act on it regardless.

All Good Medicine,
Crow

Crow Horse

Let me explain it this way. A child looks up at the stars and sees a lot of twinkling lights, then some-one starts to point out constellations and cross, dippers etc ... from that day forward that child will not see the stars the same again. Ever experienced this with clouds too? You know, what do you see in a cloud and then some-one tells you what they see and you cant get away from that image.

We can get that "pureness" back. It's not easy to do at first, but is very doable. What one needs to do is to "wipe" the mind free of all thought, analysis, and prejudice, much like a clean slate. Then and only then will that pureness return......

Some people have a lot of intuition, called a "hunch". Likely because they are a little more tuned in to their environment and analyse things a little closer. Some of these people make good palm readers, card readers and glass ball readers ... they're reading you alright, every crease, dirt under nails, clothes, stature, speech, eye contact etc etc etc.

Awareness is a start, but for some it goes far beyond physical awareness. Some can see and read a person's energy and translate what they see in understandable terms. This "reading" can occur in various ways: some actually are visual, others receive symbols and yet others are empathic. And then there is another group that is just plain full of crap. Wanna be's. That said I've met both and those who have legitimate gifts are amazing......

How about VTA of trees, can you read their history well? Takes me a while to "tune in". Literally have to wander around the tree taking in environment, soil, structures, fauna and other flora, wind directions etc ... start to see things many would walk past .... why certain wounds, how etc.

This awareness can be taken to another level where it will really amaze you. If we allow it, one can go way beyond the realm or "normal" human perception.....

Just imagine the possibilities.....

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Bruce Hopf

I strongly believe this. Once we are conceived in the womb of our mothers, there is a map drawn up of our life, what we become, how we live, and so on.
Every thing that happens, is for a reason, and that I believe is part of the map, that was put onto us, at conception. Whether we follow it, or not. It is there.
There are a lot of people out there, if they have a close call, or an accident, they always say, "well I cheated death". I believe there is no such thing as cheating death. It wasn't their time, plain and simple. What happened to them, it was all part of the map, that was bestowed onto them.
Sure I also believe that there is a lot of unexplainable events that do happen, but they are there for us to learn from them. Makes us aware of what is around us. Bruce.

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Bruce,
I'm having trouble reconciling having a predetermined life's path. If it is so, then any decision we make has already been predetermined and therefore we have no choice. I can't wrap my mind around this.....

There is a mathematical understanding of patterns of potentiality. I'm horrible at math and can go no further than to say it revolves around Dirac's delta function. But I can present to you a bastardized version. For a visual aid, picture a balloon that is inflated and you pinch the middle tightly. On one side we'll call that time past and the other side we'll call that time future. The point that is pinched is the moment. Both time past and time future are conceptual illusion. As to time future, being that everything is energy, every possibility of future events represented as a wave form "float" in time future. Every possibility has it's own amplitude, some greater than others, making them probabilities and those with less energy mere possibilities. Like raisins in jello, some are larger than others. We can pull those future possibilities into the moment by increasing their amplitude. But the bottom line here is that the moment is the only thing we have control over. We can influence what comes into the moment by making decisions that will amplify those future possibilities.....

Tough stuff to wrap one's mind around for sure.....

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Crow

Creator, everything we do leaves a track. May our tracks be ones we would want you to see and others to follow......

Crow Horse

Interesting poll results. Almost even. I've read of a poll that stated that 75% of the American public believe in something more than the physical.....

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Crow

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clementine

Not really, it's just crap made up by people who think there's more to life than working, bringing up a family and then dying! The reality of life.
They imagine that the possibilitys are endless and forget that they are just another animal on this planet, with too big a brain, destined to the same fate as their ancestors.

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