Cost of gas where you live

Ekka · 5th January 2008, 01:43 PM

Yeah, what's with that family combo thing anyway, it's like the English Monarchy then however they're just figureheads who don't govern.

Even when I was a kid in school we discussed oil running out, and not a lot has changed since then.

Hypothetical situation.

Here's the problem and lets use Bio Diesel#2 as the new fuel.

Oil company XYZ makes $46 billionUSD profit but then switches to Bio Diesel#2 which is a totally engineered product and does not rely on any oil at all. The company will still want to make maybe $50billionUSD the next financial year coz you know, all that BS about share holders etc.

So to do so the price doesn't change much, the only "savings" to be made are the cost of raw product and refining however the new product also requires "refining" in a different sense and the raw material still has to be acquired and freighted.

There wont be any real significant savings at all. The substitution to engineered resources from natural resources wont provide much savings at all ... in fact it could increase the cost as the existing infrastructure would have to perhaps be re-engineered.

This wiki page has more on bio diesel but you can see not much savings, never will be as long as huge profits and exuberant executive salaries have to be paid.

Biodiesel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On a similar note here, the NAB decided to raise interest rates on mortgages even though there was no official rate rise by the reserve bank. This pissed off the new govt bad, and typically never happened to the old govt. The reason was they owed it to the shareholders to make more profit.

I make my own beer in a micro brewery. It goes through pretty much the same processes as commercial beer but without the overheads etc and I get better and cheaper beer. The true solution to this is like what happened to Microsoft. These empires need to be broken down, a new style of corporation that is not profit driven has to evolve like a co-operative or community bank.

bigshea13 · 5th January 2008, 02:05 PM

power to the people....the good people!

pomme · 7th January 2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JayD

It's just a rip off,I think it's time to start brewing up some bio diesel i was going to do this a couple of years back, you know the goverment gets 30c per litre of juice we buy..they take it from us everywhere we go and do!

how simple is it to do? i saw it done on tv once but the kids talked all over it. it did look quite simple though.

a_lopa · 8th January 2008, 12:07 AM

Theres ALOT more oil out there under the ocean we have only touched around the edges when drilling...That comment made by a drill rig "driller"of over 20years experience.

JayD · 8th January 2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pomme

how simple is it to do? i saw it done on tv once but the kids talked all over it. it did look quite simple though.

I've never done it, but from what i've read it seems simple enough, Your suposed to declare it and pay 30 cents for every litre produced, be it soap glunk or fuel....Just google it and start reading....good luck

chainsawchick67 · 12th January 2008, 07:48 AM

$3.15 per gallon, and NOT getting any cheaper

arborjockey · 12th January 2008, 08:02 AM

Almost $4.00 in hawaii and $3.00 in ohio. in pheonix Az while in school i payed .99 cents in 1998. Tahiti in 1995 was $3.00 a litre I was walking a or riding a bike at that time.

pomme · 12th January 2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by chainsawchick67

$3.15 per gallon, and NOT getting any cheaper

am i right 6 pints in a U S gallon? not 8 as in the UK

newguy18 · 12th January 2008, 09:26 AM

I'd have to sit down and figure it out but a us gallon is 3.9 litres.I heard from my dad a friend of his while he was in high school 20 years ago had done some work to a tranny on his car no engine work and back then was doing 60 mpg.We weren't sure what he did but ford bought the design from him and he gets a brand new vehicle from the every year to not release the info.They could make vehicles more gas efficent but the won't if it was possible back then to achieve 60mpg then whats possible today?[no kidding 60mpg].

Therrin · 12th January 2008, 09:18 PM

I got close to 55mpg on my streetbike.

ronnyb · 18th January 2008, 07:42 AM

Gas here is $2.84 if you pay cash, $2.89 credit, diesel is $3.49 either way.

Ekka · 22nd January 2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ronnyb

Gas here is $2.84 if you pay cash, $2.89 credit, diesel is $3.49 either way.

Again, why do they rip off diesel, that's a significant jump in price?

Vector Tree · 22nd January 2008, 07:36 PM

$3.06 in sarasota florida....cheapest I could find as of 1-22-08

Therrin · 24th January 2008, 07:25 AM

Arborjockey,

I don't know when you were last in Arizona, but when I was there a couple months ago it was still 3.45 per gallon.

Prices in Cali have come down by now... and if you go to the cheaper places, they are near 3.20 per gallon.

kevin clark · 24th January 2008, 07:57 AM

In new york gas is $3.32 for the (cheep) stuff

Streyken · 11th March 2008, 07:21 PM

Bump. Right now in Vancouver we're paying 1.12 - 1.22 CDN a liter.

pomme · 12th March 2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Streyken

Bump. Right now in Vancouver we're paying 1.12 - 1.22 CDN a liter.

Shit sell me some we re paying in the region of £1.10 a litre (Diesel)

the dearest i ve seen was £1.15 a litre (diesel)
and we ve got a budget today bet your ass the gov will increase tax on it too

5th January 2008, 01:43 PM	#26 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,405	Re: Cost of gas where you live Yeah, what's with that family combo thing anyway, it's like the English Monarchy then however they're just figureheads who don't govern. Even when I was a kid in school we discussed oil running out, and not a lot has changed since then. Hypothetical situation. Here's the problem and lets use Bio Diesel#2 as the new fuel. Oil company XYZ makes $46 billionUSD profit but then switches to Bio Diesel#2 which is a totally engineered product and does not rely on any oil at all. The company will still want to make maybe $50billionUSD the next financial year coz you know, all that BS about share holders etc. So to do so the price doesn't change much, the only "savings" to be made are the cost of raw product and refining however the new product also requires "refining" in a different sense and the raw material still has to be acquired and freighted. There wont be any real significant savings at all. The substitution to engineered resources from natural resources wont provide much savings at all ... in fact it could increase the cost as the existing infrastructure would have to perhaps be re-engineered. This wiki page has more on bio diesel but you can see not much savings, never will be as long as huge profits and exuberant executive salaries have to be paid. Biodiesel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia On a similar note here, the NAB decided to raise interest rates on mortgages even though there was no official rate rise by the reserve bank. This pissed off the new govt bad, and typically never happened to the old govt. The reason was they owed it to the shareholders to make more profit. I make my own beer in a micro brewery. It goes through pretty much the same processes as commercial beer but without the overheads etc and I get better and cheaper beer. The true solution to this is like what happened to Microsoft. These empires need to be broken down, a new style of corporation that is not profit driven has to evolve like a co-operative or community bank. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

5th January 2008, 02:05 PM	#27 (permalink)
bigshea13 Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: hiding Posts: 378	Re: Cost of gas where you live power to the people....the good people!

8th January 2008, 12:07 AM	#29 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 903	Re: Cost of gas where you live Theres ALOT more oil out there under the ocean we have only touched around the edges when drilling...That comment made by a drill rig "driller"of over 20years experience. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory

12th January 2008, 07:48 AM	#31 (permalink)
chainsawchick67 Sappling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 5	Re: Cost of gas where you live $3.15 per gallon, and NOT getting any cheaper

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arborjockey Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: hawaii. ohio. oregon. california Posts: 135	Re: Cost of gas where you live Almost $4.00 in hawaii and $3.00 in ohio. in pheonix Az while in school i payed .99 cents in 1998. Tahiti in 1995 was $3.00 a litre I was walking a or riding a bike at that time.

12th January 2008, 09:26 AM	#34 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,740	Re: Cost of gas where you live I'd have to sit down and figure it out but a us gallon is 3.9 litres.I heard from my dad a friend of his while he was in high school 20 years ago had done some work to a tranny on his car no engine work and back then was doing 60 mpg.We weren't sure what he did but ford bought the design from him and he gets a brand new vehicle from the every year to not release the info.They could make vehicles more gas efficent but the won't if it was possible back then to achieve 60mpg then whats possible today?[no kidding 60mpg]. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,282	Re: Cost of gas where you live I got close to 55mpg on my streetbike. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

18th January 2008, 07:42 AM	#36 (permalink)
ronnyb Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 64	Re: Cost of gas where you live Gas here is $2.84 if you pay cash, $2.89 credit, diesel is $3.49 either way.

22nd January 2008, 07:36 PM	#38 (permalink)
Vector Tree Sappling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: florida Posts: 11	Re: Cost of gas where you live $3.06 in sarasota florida....cheapest I could find as of 1-22-08

24th January 2008, 07:25 AM	#39 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,282	Re: Cost of gas where you live Arborjockey, I don't know when you were last in Arizona, but when I was there a couple months ago it was still 3.45 per gallon. Prices in Cali have come down by now... and if you go to the cheaper places, they are near 3.20 per gallon. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

24th January 2008, 07:57 AM	#40 (permalink)
kevin clark Sappling Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: new york, USA Posts: 5	Re: Cost of gas where you live In new york gas is $3.32 for the (cheep) stuff

11th March 2008, 07:21 PM	#41 (permalink)
Streyken Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 205	Re: Cost of gas where you live Bump. Right now in Vancouver we're paying 1.12 - 1.22 CDN a liter. __________________ Trimmin' bush and caring for flowers is good 'n' all... but sometimes ya gotta let the big wood fly and pound the garden.