CO2 emmisions getting worse, 3x worse!

Eric Frei

More here
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0516152106.htm

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TreeCo

Scary stuff. As the rest of the world gears up to consume lots of energy it's going to get worse even faster.

Eric Frei

Means we have to plant a lot more trees, China needs forests.

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Drouin Tree Service

One new power station every week for china,hows this from the tata company of india.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/wo...gewanted=print

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Eric Frei

Yep, tip of the iceberg.

As these emerging economies with over 1 billion population keep growing their output of CO2 will skyrocket.

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JoeOtto

Whether people are on either side of the climate debate, there is the undeniable fact that there have never been as many humans on the planet as there are currently. That number will continue to grow.

So whilst some say that climatic changes have occured over thousands, if not millions of years...well yes they have but essentially how can we not except that the shear volume of people and our consumerist lifestyles are having a negative impact on the earth's climates. Only one, but an important one I think... plant more trees, look after and sustain the ones we have and that will continue the longevity of the whole Arborcultural Industry. An extremely important industry indeed! Take care all!!!!

Ted

You can and will plant trees until your Green in the face. Weather patterns are always changing and if you think that China or India could or would ever do anything to "Save the Planet", your kidding yourself. FYI most of the oxygen that we breath is produced from the oceans of the world through wave action and plankton growth. We as humans do very little to affect the weather compared to Volcanoes or earth quakes or title waves due to earth quakes. Hurricanes or twisters, sand storms, snow storms, etc are created by NATURE, get over your self and make the best of what life has to offer you. If you think nature will change because man will I think nature was here first and will be here last as well.

Apocalypsse

Another war to cull the population a bit? Need these car companies to pump out some cleaner engines at all levels, chainsaws/mowers right up to plant machinery. Imagine the reduction in CO2 emissions if the tree industry upgraded their 20yo chippers to clean new engines.

Ted

Here's one I bet you never saw coming. After all of the CO2 reductions that you are dreaming about come true,how will all of the plants and trees grow without all of the extra CO 2 needed for them to grow in the first place? Will you relie on Nature to produce all of that CO 2 or will all of the animals have to exhale twice as much?. Make the best of your life,Nature has other intentions that no one will control. Not me or you or anyone.

Drouin Tree Service

I agree we will be here one minute gone the next,its just when nature chooses to say goodbye!

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Apocalypsse

Then how did the planet survive before humans came along? Its not just our industrial technology that creates CO2 emissions.

Rob Chace

CO2 is a green house gas (warms the planet)

plants photosynthesise with CO2, if Co2 levels get too out of balance plants have been seen to PRODUCE CO2!!!!


next point...

emissions from burning hydrocarbons (diesel/fuel/coal etc) isnt just CO2 but also NOx and CO (carbon dioxide). CO is a colourless, odourless gas that is toxic to all animals.
NOx creates things such as acidified rain and is also toxic.

...rant, rant etc.

Apocalypsse

Wouldn't the plants release the CO2 thats stored in the wood? Also does timber release the stored CO2 over time?

Eric Frei

Trees do not store CO2, they store carbon, it's just used too loosley that CO2 term. CO2 gas is converted during photosynthesis. Even dead trees will store carbon for decades.

Timber versus alternative building materials

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Apocalypsse

Roger dodger, we touched on it for like 5-10 minutes in class one day. So then burning it releases the stored carbon, that raises a whole different issue for a whole different thread. The burning of woodchips for fuel!

Ted

The planet changed over time like every thing else does. I believe it is called Evolution, have you ever heard of it?.

Apocalypsse

I don't understand what you are trying to get at, you've totally lost me. Are you saying that everything on the planet bar humans evolved to stop producing CO2?

Ted

No what I am saying is that over time some life forms like certain ones deep in the bottoms of oceans don't require air or oxygen. They responded to their surroundings and adapted. Since China/India don't actually care about pollution or public health what ever the rest of the planet does or could do is pretty much meaningless. I guess we could give up the breathing out and we must stop farting as well while were at it. Now if we can get all of the rest of the creatures of the world to do the same and get the planet to stop producing weather patterns we don't like. Then all will pretty much be OK.

Darrell Mcleod

C’mon - just maybe there are too many people on the planet polluting the effer out of things

Ted

Could you please give mother nature a little credit. With all of the man made disasters going on around the world nothing compares to what Nature has done and will continue to do, unless of course maybe we should all die at once and let nature go on her merry way, after all that is what she is known for and she will always have the last word.

Apocalypsse

oH I'm sure theres a few things we could do that would compare to be or worse than what nature could do. Get your coats out for nuclear winter!

Ted

Good Luck,stay warm.

Darrell Mcleod

I wonder at a point if Mother Nature may spew a few billion people of this planet – only though because she / he has to just to survive – our planet

If as a human consciousness we had ever understood and loved this rock spinning on a thread like axis in space - our home and protected it we may have been able to change that

Really though I doubt it as it seems few really care

Darrell Mcleod

Just stumbled upon this

Most men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and continue on as if nothing had happened

Winston Churchill

Not bad for my 99th post

Apocalypsse

Good ole quotes. But the sad truth is without the money and influence to back yourself it's difficult to change things.

Ted

Maybe. I can only speak for my self and the knowledge and wisdom I have aquired.