Bartering for tree work

Ekka · 1st March 2009, 12:51 PM

Do you barter for tree work?

Source:KXLY.com: News, Weather and Sports for Spokane, WA and Coeur d'Alene, ID | More turning to lost art of bartering

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Derek Babcock barter's too, he's a bartering Arborist.

"I'm just looking for other little ways to generate business," said Babcock.

Derek diagnoses and treats dying trees, he's bartered his services for a television and even a boat.

"A lot of people are doing it," he said.

A quick look on craigslist.com shows pages of people willing to barter just about anything for just about anything.

The trick is to write down what you need then what you have that you'd be willing to give up.

"You clean my house, I'll do your trees," explained Babcock.

newguy18 · 1st March 2009, 01:47 PM

Yeah,i've done it quite often,no regrets either,got my dad a small boat for his birthday,got a horse trained,got a truck.

clementine · 1st March 2009, 02:08 PM

Ain't happened to me yet, but I'm building and rather have the cash thanks!

a_lopa · 1st March 2009, 03:07 PM

Avoid it like the plague,unless of course the deals sweeter my way

newguy18 · 1st March 2009, 03:52 PM

Man i've done some sweet deals bartering,of course if i do it i make sure i'll come out ahead.

Treeson · 1st March 2009, 07:52 PM

When doing my training I would take nearly anything that was available, I could only take cash or else be caught out by the student loan scheme and have to pay back ludicrous amounts of hard earned cash.got numerous bits and bobs. only worth doing when you feel like you got the better deal.

TrevMcRev · 1st March 2009, 09:51 PM

Its amazing how much value you can buy with a slab of beer

Therrin · 2nd March 2009, 09:07 AM

I did a pine dismantle in trade for the trailer I spent the last year living in.

Other small stuff here and there. I dont do it very often but I have done it in the past. I'm not opposed to it. Sometimes they don't have any cash, but they've got something I'd really like to have. If the job only takes an hour or a couple hours or something there's no reason not to do it if I dont have any paying jobs lined up.

Bill, I think lopa and you aren't quite on the same level with the sweeter deal. Lopa's angle makes me think of that song by Def Leppard, "Pour some sugar on me"

newguy18 · 2nd March 2009, 09:14 AM

yeah i understood him,thats why i wasn't quoting him.

pomie · 4th March 2009, 07:22 AM

no but a guy i used to contract to on the northside did he said it was great they called it the barter card and you just banked up the credit till you used it for something

Ekka · 4th March 2009, 10:22 PM

Bartercard:- a cashless exchange goods and services system.

Not long ago the members got tax audits, most failed to declare their Barter dollars for both GST and income tax.

They often ring me and I ask, can I use it at Coles or Woolworths? Nope.

From Bartercard's website about how it works:

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A restaurant wishes to "barter" for $10,000 worth of printing using meals and drinks. No printer would ever want $10,000 in meals from the one restaurant, however by selecting a Bartercard printer, the restaurateur pays the printer with T$10,000 Trade Dollars. The printer’s account is "credited" and the restaurateur’s account "debited", so the restaurant now owes T$10,000 in meals to the Bartercard network, NOT the printer. This is repaid as various Bartercard members come to the restaurant (new business) over the following months. Hence, the restaurant has paid for its printing requirements with meals, using an interest-free "line of credit" and at a cost of approximately 30 - 40 cents in the dollar, in replacement good cost.

Sounds good on the surface but, the GST has to be paid so does the tax with CASH not barter dollars.

Also notice the spin on the 30 - 40 cents thing, how they come to that conclusion? I'd think most would bump the price up considering it's not cash and so trace-able ... maybe that's why since 1991 they have only around 25,000 Aussies in it.

Also imagine all those people going to your restaurant and not parting with cash, meanwhile you have to pay the rent, staff, super, tax, butcher etc with real cash dollars.

Be aware, that's all. CASH IS KING.

newguy18 · 5th March 2009, 01:15 AM

Wow a barter card

FlashD · 12th March 2009, 02:57 AM

I bartered once. Pruned some folks Pin Oak. Took me about an hour.

Got a wife out of the deal. How sweet is that?

newguy18 · 12th March 2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FlashD

I bartered once. Pruned some folks Pin Oak. Took me about an hour.

Got a wife out of the deal. How sweet is that?

Sounds like you got a bad deal.

gids · 12th March 2009, 01:11 PM

I pay a mate that helps me out sometimes with wood for his fire, works out for both of us, He helps me for half a day and gets what ever big stuff that he can use for heating his home.

Gids

hoot gibson · 17th March 2009, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashD

I bartered once. Pruned some folks Pin Oak. Took me about an hour.

Got a wife out of the deal. How sweet is that?

for how long?

FlashD · 17th March 2009, 03:24 PM

So far, she's hung around for two years.

Must have been some darned good pruning, eh?

Therrin · 18th March 2009, 05:09 PM

*Therrin has arborist-pickup-lines running through his head*

*GROAN* Awwww come on now man...tell me you didnt...? You didnt snag her with something cheezy did you? =P

FlashD · 19th March 2009, 01:55 PM

I absolutely got her through something cheesey! It had nothing to do with tree work though. We were married long before I pruned her parent's trees.

It's pretty amazing how many girls will fall for the old "My friends all tell me my nose smells like pineapple. You should smell it and tell me what you think." line.

Buckstree · 5th April 2009, 09:21 AM

I barter but only for my time and equipment , I need to be paid for my laborers It has never worked out any other way... But I have gotten the electrical in my addition , some sweet paver work on the front of my house and a real nice wood stove in exchange for firewood...

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1st March 2009, 01:47 PM	#2
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 5,191	Re: Bartering for tree work Yeah,i've done it quite often,no regrets either,got my dad a small boat for his birthday,got a horse trained,got a truck. __________________ Have your say join us today. I ship USA saws out of the USA old schooler

1st March 2009, 02:08 PM	#3
clementine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Portugal Posts: 513	Re: Bartering for tree work Ain't happened to me yet, but I'm building and rather have the cash thanks! __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons - for you are crunchy and taste of chicken! Builder in Central Portugal

1st March 2009, 03:07 PM	#4
a_lopa Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,303	Re: Bartering for tree work Avoid it like the plague,unless of course the deals sweeter my way __________________ Drouin Tree Services and Excavator Hire \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland

1st March 2009, 03:52 PM	#5
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 5,191	Re: Bartering for tree work Man i've done some sweet deals bartering,of course if i do it i make sure i'll come out ahead. __________________ Have your say join us today. I ship USA saws out of the USA old schooler

1st March 2009, 07:52 PM	#6
Treeson Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 135	Re: Bartering for tree work When doing my training I would take nearly anything that was available, I could only take cash or else be caught out by the student loan scheme and have to pay back ludicrous amounts of hard earned cash.got numerous bits and bobs. only worth doing when you feel like you got the better deal.

1st March 2009, 09:51 PM	#7
TrevMcRev Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,429	Re: Bartering for tree work Its amazing how much value you can buy with a slab of beer __________________ Total Tree Care - Melbourne Arborist Reports & Consulting,Tree Pruning & Removal \| Elm Leaf Beetle Treatment Melbourne www.treegear.com.au - Australia's Best Value Arborist Supplies

2nd March 2009, 09:07 AM	#8
Therrin Tree World Ninja Monkey Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,554	Re: Bartering for tree work I did a pine dismantle in trade for the trailer I spent the last year living in. Other small stuff here and there. I dont do it very often but I have done it in the past. I'm not opposed to it. Sometimes they don't have any cash, but they've got something I'd really like to have. If the job only takes an hour or a couple hours or something there's no reason not to do it if I dont have any paying jobs lined up. Bill, I think lopa and you aren't quite on the same level with the sweeter deal. Lopa's angle makes me think of that song by Def Leppard, "Pour some sugar on me"

2nd March 2009, 09:14 AM	#9
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 5,191	Re: Bartering for tree work yeah i understood him,thats why i wasn't quoting him. __________________ Have your say join us today. I ship USA saws out of the USA old schooler

4th March 2009, 07:22 AM	#10
pomie Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: brisbane Posts: 49	Re: Bartering for tree work no but a guy i used to contract to on the northside did he said it was great they called it the barter card and you just banked up the credit till you used it for something

5th March 2009, 01:15 AM	#12
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 5,191	Re: Bartering for tree work Wow a barter card __________________ Have your say join us today. I ship USA saws out of the USA old schooler

12th March 2009, 02:57 AM	#13
FlashD Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 182	Re: Bartering for tree work I bartered once. Pruned some folks Pin Oak. Took me about an hour. Got a wife out of the deal. How sweet is that?

12th March 2009, 01:11 PM	#15
gids Sappling Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: mildura Posts: 11	Re: Bartering for tree work I pay a mate that helps me out sometimes with wood for his fire, works out for both of us, He helps me for half a day and gets what ever big stuff that he can use for heating his home. Gids

17th March 2009, 03:24 PM	#17
FlashD Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 182	Re: Bartering for tree work So far, she's hung around for two years. Must have been some darned good pruning, eh?

18th March 2009, 05:09 PM	#18
Therrin Tree World Ninja Monkey Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,554	Re: Bartering for tree work Therrin has arborist-pickup-lines running through his head GROAN Awwww come on now man...tell me you didnt...? You didnt snag her with something cheezy did you? =P

19th March 2009, 01:55 PM	#19
FlashD Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 182	Re: Bartering for tree work I absolutely got her through something cheesey! It had nothing to do with tree work though. We were married long before I pruned her parent's trees. It's pretty amazing how many girls will fall for the old "My friends all tell me my nose smells like pineapple. You should smell it and tell me what you think." line.

5th April 2009, 09:21 AM	#20
Buckstree Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: new jersey Posts: 50	Re: Bartering for tree work I barter but only for my time and equipment , I need to be paid for my laborers It has never worked out any other way... But I have gotten the electrical in my addition , some sweet paver work on the front of my house and a real nice wood stove in exchange for firewood...

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