Arrested for listening to foul music

Eric Frei · 9th March 2010, 12:00 AM

They think it will be a test case, some 19yo was listening to some rap crap by Kid Selzy in his car, the cops cruise past and here the M'fugger bla bla BS you get from rappers and the cops bust him.

Teen Nathan Wilkie arrested for playing 'offensive' rap music from car | Herald Sun

Quote:

A TEEN has been arrested for listening to what police have deemed offensive rap music.

In what could be a legal test case, 19-year-old Nathan Michael Wilkie faces a charge of offensive behaviour after police arrested him when he was listening to music by underground rapper Kid Selzy on his car stereo.

Mr Wilkie was parked outside a Timboon supermarket, waiting for his mother, when he was arrested.

The Warrnambool Magistrates' Court heard he was listening to lyrics such as "shut your f------ mouth bitch, f------ motherf-----".

The court was told the arresting officers found the music offensive and derogatory to females.

Mr Wilkie allegedly told officers: "You're a joke, go do some real police work."

The teenager is believed to be the first person charged under Australian law with offensive behaviour for listening to music.

Through his lawyer, Amanda Chambers, Mr Wilkie plans to plead not guilty when his case continues on June 11.

In a statement, Mr Wilkie said he was thankful to have the support of Kid Selzy, who plans to attend in June.

"I am grateful to have Kid Selzy's support as this charge is a reflection on his music, that is not supposed to be offensive in any way," Mr Wilkie wrote.

"As Selzy said, 'I know what I mean and the people who buy it know what I mean, and that's what really matters'.

"He also mentioned 'if you read my lyrics, it's just my opinion'.

"And from what I believe, everyone has the right to their own opinion.

"I have lost two of my best mates in the last couple of years in tragic circumstances and I feel that listening to his music relates to life."

Kid Selzy, who gave his real name only as Jack, said he was astounded at the arrest.

"It's a joke that some kid's been arrested for doing something that's not illegal," he said.

"It's not illegal to have your windows down or to buy a CD. It seems to be a waste of taxpayers' dollars.

"If profanity's not your thing, don't listen."

The rapper said the case first came to his attention when Mr Wilkie's mother, Carolyn Wilkie, posted a message on his MySpace page.

"My son bought your CD ... from JB Hi-Fi and was playing it in his car," the message reads.

"Unfortunately he saw me (his mum) coming out of the local supermarket with shopping bags and left his car running and music playing to help me with my bags and the local cops pulled in.

"They stuck their head in his half-open window and were very offended by the lyrics of your CD.

"The end result is he has been served a summons for offensive behaviour for playing your CD, which they said was too loud and the lyrics offensive, especially to women."

Police are expected to play Kid Selzy's latest album, The Creepshow, at the next hearing.

Garry Brockley · 9th March 2010, 06:46 AM

What a fine looking upstanding individual he looks.
the cops should really wind their necks in though, our parents and grand parents fought for our free rights, lets not let these idiotic police decisions destroy what we have, jeez what next no swearing in public, Ekka would be struck dumb.

sueann · 9th March 2010, 12:57 PM

He is a creepy looking kid, but I would have thought the cops did have better things to do.

stirmantrees · 9th March 2010, 01:30 PM

i would think the blasting of music that is extremely graphic in a manner would infringe on other peoples right to live peaceably. I think we all should be respectful of others as much as possible. Around here we have loudness laws. which if kept in check would limit how many people heard the music we are playing.

He must of been cranking it.

Jeff Darby · 10th March 2010, 06:35 AM

He does look a sight, however we all had our turn at being young, enjoy yourselves youngen's cause it's all a one way trip...lol.. no serious.!

Bruce Hopf · 10th March 2010, 04:52 PM

next. Sorry about the language, but I think the cops have stepped way out of bounds, with this case. Was it after 11:00 PM, I could see a charge for being too loud, but for the music.
What is this world coming too. The police, in this case, are trying to dictate, what a person should be, or not to be listening too. Sorry, but this is just my opinion.
I have to agree with Galbee, about people that fought against Dictatorship, in how many wars. Boer war WWI, WWII, Korean War, just to name a few, that had multiple Countries fighting in, not just one, or two, or three Countries like now in Iraq, and Afghanistan, that fought against this type of behaviour. Just my opinion though. Bruce

Therrin · 10th March 2010, 10:16 PM

I can think of several rock/country/metal/hip-hop songs which are "degrading to women"...as well as "degrading" to several other people besides. Or at least, you could claim so from the lyrics.
While I personally hate it when someone is bumping annoying music for other people to hear, it *did* say the cop had his head stuck in the window listening to the music. Might not have been TOO loud, otherwise he probably could have heard it just fine standing at a distance.

As was previously mentioned, if you can be arrested for listening to rap, at what point can you be arrested for listening to all other types of music with "offensive" lyrics? Whether its "degrading", or references to sex, references to drugs and/or alcohol use, or other such things?

The courts should tread lightly on this one.

Eric Frei · 11th March 2010, 09:09 AM

In America they're trying to make it a law for your pants being worn below your butt like these kids do today with their undies showing.

Let current law raise sagging pants | dailyworld.com | Daily World

Garry Brockley · 11th March 2010, 08:25 PM

the cops would beagainst that haveyou seen the idiots trying run away while holding up thier pants

Eric Frei · 11th March 2010, 10:18 PM

I see these wankers at the shops, their pants hang under their bums with their undies showing, try expalin to a 6yo WTF is going on!

banner · 18th March 2010, 04:29 PM

The kid's an attention seeker.......it's all over his face...lol. It's a no brainer.
Take his stereo out and have mom run over it with the back tire....end of story....lol.

Eric Frei · 18th March 2010, 06:12 PM

Is that make up around his eyes?

dov · 18th March 2010, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

He does look a sight, however we all had our turn at being young, enjoy yourselves youngen's cause it's all a one way trip...lol.. no serious.!

And being pulled back into line when we offended others is a big part of finally growing up to be decent human beings.

dov · 18th March 2010, 08:05 PM

A lot of this music really should be rated more strictly though. I did some years as a security guard and saw so many of these little s**ts picking up their attitudes from violent, self-centred hiphop and rap. We could do a lot worse than give the kids something better to identify with.

9th March 2010, 06:46 AM	#2
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music What a fine looking upstanding individual he looks. the cops should really wind their necks in though, our parents and grand parents fought for our free rights, lets not let these idiotic police decisions destroy what we have, jeez what next no swearing in public, Ekka would be struck dumb. __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

9th March 2010, 12:57 PM	#3
sueann Former Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hunter Valley Australia Posts: 599	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music He is a creepy looking kid, but I would have thought the cops did have better things to do.

9th March 2010, 01:30 PM	#4
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music i would think the blasting of music that is extremely graphic in a manner would infringe on other peoples right to live peaceably. I think we all should be respectful of others as much as possible. Around here we have loudness laws. which if kept in check would limit how many people heard the music we are playing. He must of been cranking it.

10th March 2010, 06:35 AM	#5
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music He does look a sight, however we all had our turn at being young, enjoy yourselves youngen's cause it's all a one way trip...lol.. no serious.! __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

10th March 2010, 04:52 PM	#6
Bruce Hopf Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: North of Sebringville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,176	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music next. Sorry about the language, but I think the cops have stepped way out of bounds, with this case. Was it after 11:00 PM, I could see a charge for being too loud, but for the music. What is this world coming too. The police, in this case, are trying to dictate, what a person should be, or not to be listening too. Sorry, but this is just my opinion. I have to agree with Galbee, about people that fought against Dictatorship, in how many wars. Boer war WWI, WWII, Korean War, just to name a few, that had multiple Countries fighting in, not just one, or two, or three Countries like now in Iraq, and Afghanistan, that fought against this type of behaviour. Just my opinion though. Bruce __________________ McCulloch chain saws 1- Pro Mac 60, 1- Pro Mac 700, 2- Mac 10-10 Automatic's, 2- Mini Mac 30's, 2- Mac 110's, 2- Mini Mac 35's, 1- Mac 140 with Automatic Chain Sharpener, 1- Pro Mac 10-10, 1- Mac Cat, 2- Eager Beaver 2.0's, 1- Mac 1-10 Stihl chain saws 2- 044's, 2- 034's, 2- 024's, 1- 064, 1- 084, Strunk chain saws 1- Busy Beaver, 1- SpeeDemon Special Stand Back, I Have A Very Extreme Case of CAD (Chain Saw Addiction Disorder).

10th March 2010, 10:16 PM	#7
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music I can think of several rock/country/metal/hip-hop songs which are "degrading to women"...as well as "degrading" to several other people besides. Or at least, you could claim so from the lyrics. While I personally hate it when someone is bumping annoying music for other people to hear, it did say the cop had his head stuck in the window listening to the music. Might not have been TOO loud, otherwise he probably could have heard it just fine standing at a distance. As was previously mentioned, if you can be arrested for listening to rap, at what point can you be arrested for listening to all other types of music with "offensive" lyrics? Whether its "degrading", or references to sex, references to drugs and/or alcohol use, or other such things? The courts should tread lightly on this one.

11th March 2010, 09:09 AM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music In America they're trying to make it a law for your pants being worn below your butt like these kids do today with their undies showing. Let current law raise sagging pants \| dailyworld.com \| Daily World __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

11th March 2010, 08:25 PM	#9
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music the cops would beagainst that haveyou seen the idiots trying run away while holding up thier pants __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

11th March 2010, 10:18 PM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music I see these wankers at the shops, their pants hang under their bums with their undies showing, try expalin to a 6yo WTF is going on! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

18th March 2010, 04:29 PM	#11
banner Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky....oh yeah baby Posts: 135	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music The kid's an attention seeker.......it's all over his face...lol. It's a no brainer. Take his stereo out and have mom run over it with the back tire....end of story....lol.

18th March 2010, 06:12 PM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music Is that make up around his eyes? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

18th March 2010, 08:05 PM	#14
dov Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 651	Re: Arrested for listening to foul music A lot of this music really should be rated more strictly though. I did some years as a security guard and saw so many of these little s**ts picking up their attitudes from violent, self-centred hiphop and rap. We could do a lot worse than give the kids something better to identify with. __________________

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