Trichoderma | wound dressing | wound painting | Biological controls

azrael · 27th December 2007, 01:04 AM

This is new to me ... using Trichoderma as a pathogen to treat pathogenic root fungi.
Found this page http:///bugs.bio.usyd.edu.au/Mycolog...athogens.shtml
Otherwise everything else I found related to damping-off type fungi, in nursery environments.
Is this a normal practice up northern NSW and/or Qld. and what is this adjunct better known as...
Is it a cost effective option to use as a preventative measure.

Ekka · 27th December 2007, 01:30 AM

If you go hang out at the farmers type chemical stores you'll be very surprised what you find.

But in saying that there's horses for courses, the most likely fungi to invade trees up here would be Phelinus noxious, Ganoderma, Armillaria, Phytophthora & Anthracnose.

Some PDF docs I loaded up worth a read.

1.7mb http://www.treeworld.info/manualuplo...ssingpaint.pdf

3.2mb http://www.treeworld.info/manualuplo...comparison.pdf

201kb and well worth a read
http://www.treeworld.info/attachment...1&d=1214699630

azrael · 27th December 2007, 02:22 AM

Havent read those attachments yet...
This post is because I visited the APVMA site to check label registration for Vinevax...It doesnt seem to cover anything but grapes/grapevines...AND there is no permit for special uses.
So maybe we should'nt recommend this product by name for use on woody trees as a purely preventative caution...transplants... yes
The latest Gazetted items are .... I'll keep a check for any updates.
Gazette APVMA 10, 4 October 2005
and
Gazette APVMA 10, 4 October 2005

Ekka · 27th December 2007, 02:43 AM

Key part is this.

Quote:

Propose that products containing Trichoderma spp. that are represented, supplied or used for improvement of soil structure, improving survival of transplants, increasing beneficial microbes or microbial activity in soils, or digesting cellulose be declared as not being agricultural chemical products under Schedule 3 of the Regulations. Given the time this may take, the APVMA has granted a temporary exemption for the purposes of sections 75(1)(b) and 78(1)(b) of the Agvet Codes. This exemption means that it would not be an offence to possess such products for the purposes of supply or to supply them for this purpose.

Nice find.

azrael · 27th December 2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

the most likely fungi to invade trees up here would be Phelinus noxious, Ganoderma, Armillaria, Phytophthora & Anthracnose.

(Thats in Brisbane)...The first link is case study summary at Hyde Park Sydney.
AILA NSW 2005 Tree Managment Forum

and Malaysia
CSIRO PUBLISHING - Australasian Plant Pathology

and pic from Townsville
Parks Services - Townsville City Council

Ekka · 27th December 2007, 01:34 PM

And there's not a whole lot you can do about it, I dont think Trichoderma helps for those fungi.

Mango trees get anthracnose on the foliage tips.

treeseer · 27th December 2007, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

And there's not a whole lot you can do about it, I dont think Trichoderma helps for those fungi.

What if it gets established in the soil and competes with and displaces the rotters?

Sean Freeman · 27th December 2007, 09:05 PM

There's a fair bit of anecdotal evidence for the positive impacts of foliar applications of suitably (after microscope leaf analysis) selected, properly brewed (aerobic) compost teas, in the battle with anthracnose and leaf blight. No substantive scientific studies though, I'd certainly be offering foliar sprays as an option to clients with those troubles.

Ekka · 27th December 2007, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treeseer

What if it gets established in the soil and competes with and displaces the rotters?

The fungi I'm most concerned about is the ones I mentioned.

Quote:

Phelinus noxious, Ganoderma, Armillaria, Phytophthora & Anthracnose.

Phytophthora is best held at bay with Ausphos600, Trichoderma doesn't have much affect on the others above. The above (other than Anthracnose) are the prime killers here, the Anthracnose I deal with is mainly foliar on stressed mango trees ... not rotting the roots/stem away.

I dont like to use any chemical fungal treatment as a wholesale soil drench and would rather work on getting the soil right like Sean always advocates.

azrael · 28th December 2007, 05:37 AM

A good summary of the bio-control organism and the target disease.
http://www.ngia.com.au/publication_r...NP_2002-14.pdf

Ekka · 10th July 2008, 09:07 PM

Another great powerpoint document on biological controls from Department of Biological & Agricultural Engineering
University of Idaho

27th December 2007, 01:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
azrael Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Australia Posts: 319	Trichoderma \| wound dressing \| wound painting \| Biological controls This is new to me ... using Trichoderma as a pathogen to treat pathogenic root fungi. Found this page http:///bugs.bio.usyd.edu.au/Mycolog...athogens.shtml Otherwise everything else I found related to damping-off type fungi, in nursery environments. Is this a normal practice up northern NSW and/or Qld. and what is this adjunct better known as... Is it a cost effective option to use as a preventative measure.

27th December 2007, 02:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
azrael Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Australia Posts: 319	Re: The Trichoderma and wound dressing question Havent read those attachments yet... This post is because I visited the APVMA site to check label registration for Vinevax...It doesnt seem to cover anything but grapes/grapevines...AND there is no permit for special uses. So maybe we should'nt recommend this product by name for use on woody trees as a purely preventative caution...transplants... yes The latest Gazetted items are .... I'll keep a check for any updates. Gazette APVMA 10, 4 October 2005 and Gazette APVMA 10, 4 October 2005 Last edited by azrael : 27th December 2007 at 01:58 PM. Reason: Another link

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Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,501	Re: The Trichoderma and wound dressing question And there's not a whole lot you can do about it, I dont think Trichoderma helps for those fungi. Mango trees get anthracnose on the foliage tips. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

27th December 2007, 09:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,710	Re: The Trichoderma and wound dressing question There's a fair bit of anecdotal evidence for the positive impacts of foliar applications of suitably (after microscope leaf analysis) selected, properly brewed (aerobic) compost teas, in the battle with anthracnose and leaf blight. No substantive scientific studies though, I'd certainly be offering foliar sprays as an option to clients with those troubles. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

28th December 2007, 05:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
azrael Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Australia Posts: 319	Re: The Trichoderma and wound dressing question A good summary of the bio-control organism and the target disease. http://www.ngia.com.au/publication_r...NP_2002-14.pdf

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