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Old 15th September 2008, 08:36 AM   #1
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Default Dead Wood to a Min. 40mm (1.5") ?

The 1995 ANSI 300 spec. for est. trees 10m< (30'<) states:

"Clear the crown of diseased, crossing, weak and dead wood to a min. 40mm (1.5")

Seems to say here that small dead wood in established trees dosen't need to be cut?

What do ya'll think?

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Old 15th September 2008, 09:11 AM   #2
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Default Re: Dead Wood to a Min. 40mm (1.5") ?

Many or our eucs have lots of deadwood on tips under say 1" dia ... seldom do we worry about it, they're only light twigs.

A lot of the smaller dead wood also has trouble falling straight to the ground and has a maze of obstacles to get through first.

Seems reasonable I think.
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Default Re: Dead Wood to a Min. 40mm (1.5") ?

Try getting every last little dead twig out of a tree, slow and tedious. I just get the bigger stuff and the unsightly smaller pieces.
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Default Re: Dead Wood to a Min. 40mm (1.5") ?

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The ANSI 300 spec. for est. trees 10m< (30'<) states:

"Clear the crown of diseased, crossing, weak and dead wood to a min. 40mm (1.5") :
I jus tlooked thru the 2001 and the 2008 pruning standards and see nothing like that. Where is that coming from?
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Small deadwood yes...but 1.5" min? seems pretty big.

I try to tell customers not to cut anything unless they really need to.

I just wonder who really uses the figures (besides me...)
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yeah your right, I usually take anything larger than say 3/4" or 1".
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I jus tlooked thru the 2001 and the 2008 pruning standards and see nothing like that. Where is that coming from?
Got it from Arboriculture text book, Inegrated management...Harris, Clark, Matheny. 1995.

Looks like this is the '95 ANSI standard. All the new ANSI guides are at my uncles house...

What does new standards say 'bout dead wood min?
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What does new standards say 'bout dead wood min?
The *example* spec sheet #1 is a live oak by a pool getting cleaned; 1"+ deadwood out.

2nd example is an Arizona ash; just says "Remove dead branches". It is getting structurally thinned 20-25% with 1-4" cuts and one sprawling limb reduced 12'.

Different strokes for different species, and so on and so on and shoobydoobydooby...

These examples are not the standard; they are examples. Specs "can be written in a format that suits your company and the job." But tell your uncle that after 13 years it's time to get the new rule book. Lots has changed.
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But tell your uncle that after 13 years it's time to get the new rule book. Lots has changed.
Cool, we have current ANSI, was wondering what ANSI said about deadwood min.? Does it just give examples?

I'm kicking myself for not having them in front of me
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Cool, we have current ANSI, was wondering what ANSI said about deadwood min.? Does it just give examples?

I'm kicking myself for not having them in front of me
Standards have to be general so of course they give no specifics--that's the arborist's job.

The 2008 just came out--time to order.
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Try getting every last little dead twig out of a tree, slow and tedious. I just get the bigger stuff and the unsightly smaller pieces.
Same here,unless a client wants every little dead twig out of the tree.
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Standards have to be general so of course they give no specifics--that's the arborist's job.

The 2008 just came out--time to order.
I'm gonna' order a bunch and give em' out instead of halloween candy.
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