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Old 28th May 2010, 03:41 PM   #1
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Righto,

what species should be used as street trees? preferably native to the area, 8 - 12m max, maybe taller in rural areas.

all suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Old 28th May 2010, 10:58 PM   #2
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Hi there,

Council in your area have a list in the following link, there are regulations regarding planting of street trees, they have a list relevant for your location.


Street trees - Brisbane City Council

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An uncommon tree that I think would make a great street tree is Lysiphyllum hookeri. Another favourite of mine is Syzygium tierneyanum.
I think the "native to the area" factor is overplayed most of the time; often it seems to take precedence over other factors such as appropriate form, hardiness, & general attractiveness.
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To bring all the info to one place, from the above link. Couldn't see a copyright on the site, but it's in the public domain so shouldn't be an issue.

Types of street trees - Brisbane City Council


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Originally Posted by BCC Website
Trees suitable under powerlines

* golden penda (Xanthostemon chrysanthus)
* ivory curl flower (Buckinghamia celsissima)
* Kaffir bean (Schotia brachypetala)
* native wisteria tree (Pongamia pinnata)
* pink bottlebrush (Callistemon 'Eureka')
* poinciana (Delonix regia)
* silver trumpet tree (Tabebuia argentea)
* tulipwood (Harpullia pendula)

Trees on footpaths 4.5 metres or greater

These tree must have more than 1.5 metres clearance from the kerb or footpath strip.

* jacaranda (Jacaranda mimosifolia)
* poinciana (Delonix regia)

General street trees

* broad leaved paperbark (Melaleuca quinquinervia)
* brush box (Lophostemon confertus)
* bumpy Ash (Flindersia schottiana)
* cassod tree (Cassia siamea)
* crows Ash (Flindersia australis)
* pink trumpet tree (Tabebuia rosea)
* small leaved lilly pilly (Syzygium leuhmanii)
* tuckeroo (Cupaniopsis anacardioides)
* weeping paperbark (Melaleuca leucadendron)
* weeping satinash (Waterhousea floribunda)
* yellow poinciana (Peltophorum pterocarpum)
* leopard tree (Caesalpinea ferrea)**

**Leopard trees can only be used as new or replacement trees in city centre significant streetscapes and will not be used for plantings in residential suburban streets.
Species trial

Council is trialling a selection of South East Queensland rainforest tree species for use as street trees. The program began in June 2000 with help from the Brisbane Rainforest Action and Information Network.

There are 12 trial species either planted in streets or in nursery production. They are:

* Alectryon connatus
* Alectryon tomentosus
* Aphananthe philippinensis
* Atalaya salicifolia
* Dissiliaria baloghioides
* Elaeocarpus eumundi
* Elaeocarpus obovatus
* Flindersia bennettiana
* Flindersia collina
* Flindersia xanthoxyla
* Guoia semiglauca
* Rapanea variabilis
http://www.brisbane.qld.gov.au/bccwr..._winter_09.pdf

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Brisbane’s street trees are on the front line when it comes to managing and mitigating the effects of climate change. As well as enhancing shady, attractive streetscapes for our liveable city, they provide a wealth of less obvious services, such as buffering the effects of extreme weather and encouraging greenhouse gas reductions by creating cooler and more ‘walkable’ neighbourhoods.

Since 1989, Council has regularly trialled native species that may be suitable for street tree planting in Brisbane. Community groups suggest species showing some of the traits important to street trees while they grow in bushland rehabilitation settings. Council’s nursery contractor propagates the species that are then planted in footpaths of varying soil types across the city. Council monitors the performance of trial street trees. ‘Graduate’ species of the testing program earn their place on the front-line. Many of Brisbane’s most successful trial graduates and street trees are in the Sapindaceae family, especially the smaller species. These grow naturally on rainforest margins in drier scrubs. Storm damage from November last year is a reminder that street trees face extreme weather as well as a wide range of growing conditions. Tree risk management must be considered.

Students from the University of Queensland and Griffith University participated in this year’s trial monitoring. Grey bird’s eye (Alectryon connatus), lancewood (Dissalaria baloghioides) and Bennett’s ash (Flindersia bennettiana), trialled in 2003, have been confirmed for wider use based on results collected in February this year.

Guoia (Guoia semiglauca) and hairy bird’s eye (A. tomentosus) are performing well and native olive (Olea paniculata) and pitted-leaf steelwood (Toechima tenax) are showing early promise.

The trials also show that regular maintenance improves tree performance.
A community survey has been held for the Tree Policy Review, including species choice revision. Results will be available on Council’s website.

More information on Council street trees and tree policies is available from Lyndal Plant, Principal Urban Forest Policy Officer or phone Council on (07) 3403 8888.

I think Treestyle is after for hints from people who may have seen trees that looked good, that may suit a street, are native and aren't on any list from BCC. Hints from people with some solid industry experience.

I've planted Alectryon Connatus and Toechima Tenax so it's nice to see BCC is onto it as well. I wouldn't be planting Jacaranda though, at any time.
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An uncommon tree that I think would make a great street tree is Lysiphyllum hookeri. Another favourite of mine is Syzygium tierneyanum.
I think the "native to the area" factor is overplayed most of the time; often it seems to take precedence over other factors such as appropriate form, hardiness, & general attractiveness.
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Form: Rounded shrub or small open tree up to 5m high x 4m diameter with an irregular ‘bonsai’ like habit providing an interesting feature subject in a garden.
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in Brisbane there is a wonderful mature grove in a park in Toowong established since the 1960’s
The first quote makes it hit/miss as a Street tree. Anyone live near Toowong to do a visual on it?

Plant of the week: White Bauhinia 'Lysiphyllum hookeri' :: ABC Queensland
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Hey Treemo,

I have had a good look at the ones in the park at Toowong (it takes a bit of searching to find that park!), and collected & propagated seed from the specimens there. There is also a single specimen in the Brisbane City Botanic Gardens. As far as the trees' form goes - it does branch fairly low, and can be multi-trunked - but no more than Xanthostemon chrysanthus or Harpullia pendula, and that doesn't stop those species being used as street trees. Look up 8 Quinn St, Toowong on Google Street view to have a look. They are the trees in a grove along Milton Rd, and partly down Quinn St.
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On Street View, Google Maps says 8 Quinn approximate but the resolution is terrible.

I'll keep looking with the Google for some Images.


P.S. I dislike Harpullia and Xanthostemon for those same reasons. I have a 3 metre Penda at the front of my house, planted from 1 metre in Feb, 2008 and it took me quite a while to clean trunk it. I even had to remove the mulch to get at a few coming from under the earth. Looks great now, until Energex dropped branches directly onto it. It's recovering.

And that's why I assume there are a lot of multi-leadered Harpullias and Xanthostemons everywhere. They just need more care as single street trees that Councils find it hard to give.. Can't speak for the Harpullias but there is a fantastic full-sized Xanthostemon hedge on South Pine Rd in Albany Creek that runs for 100 metres plus where epicormic growth was a good thing.

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=-27.345372,152.962799&num=1&t=h&sll=-27.358357,152.970272&sspn=0.03312,0.02005&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=-27.344633,152.96196&spn=0.000309,0.000603&z=21
^ hopefully that works.

We put out 3 x Harpullia Hillii not too long ago. See what they look like as singles without any care.

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Suitability: The plant has been proven in cultivation in a number of areas of Queensland – in Brisbane there is a wonderful mature grove in a park in Toowong established since the 1960’s. It is also used successfully as a street & park tree in Townsville and elsewhere in the drier climates
One would think that if it has been used successfully in Townsville as a street tree it might prove the same in Brisbane.
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ah, I do like Harpullia hillii, let us know how they go. On another note, have you seen many Acmena hemilampra being used as street trees? They are getting more popular down here on the Gold Coast, and so far they seem to be working well - very tough plants! Once again though, they do tend to be low branching, and naturally take a "shrubby" form.
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One would think that if it has been used successfully in Townsville as a street tree it might prove the same in Brisbane.
Yep, just need to see some pics. A lot of successful street trees used in Brisbane aren't really that successful in some locations. Be interesting to see how big these 70 year old trees are. Mainly, if you plant 500mm-1000mm from any structure, will it lift it/damage it? Or, like BCC, does it need 4.5 metres (ie. the Jacaranda and Poinciana)?

I've seen Ekka post a thread about some Ficus 'Street Trees' and I've seen tree-lined streets with Benjamina only 2 metres from drains and other road structures.

http://gvcocks.homeip.net/PlantFamil...m/DSCN2074.JPG

Picture of Lysiphyllum above ^, in that pic it's too spread out for a 'standard' street tree. No worse than Poinciana though.

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ah, I do like Harpullia hillii, let us know how they go. On another note, have you seen many Acmena hemilampra being used as street trees? They are getting more popular down here on the Gold Coast, and so far they seem to be working well - very tough plants! Once again though, they do tend to be low branching, and naturally take a "shrubby" form.
Not here, but I haven't seen every street. We are on the standard Myrtaceae for streets, Waterhousea and luehmannii. I've seen tierneyanum and jambos (the jambos is hit and miss) but it's not recommended for us to plant.

Any chance of some pics of Acmena hemilampra on a street? The description of the tree sounds ideal enough for some locations.

We also have Pararchidendron pruinosum in with the hillii for something different.


I should be getting the camera out and starting the pictorial diary soon.
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I don't have any good pics, so am resorting to Google Street View images - at least you can get an idea of the form of the trees.
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1. The Lysiphyllum hookeri grove at Quinn park in Toowong (as referred to in the ABC Article found in Treemo's post above). All trees in the foreground are this species, including the tree with the park bench beneath it. In the background to the right of this tree you can see some specimens with less ideal form, including multi-trunked specimens. The trees in the foreground that have been "pruned" to accommodate power lines are also Lysiphyllum.

2. Acmena hemilampra street plantings in Ocean St, Maroochydore - although young, these trees seem to be performing well. All trees in this picture (except for the palm) are of this species.
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The Acmena hemilampra are really nice in form, adequate branch height, I like them, what are they like in fruit drop? Have they been cleaned up at the bottom of branches or is that their natural form?
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Spoke to the person in the know.

hempilampra: 10m x 6m. Prone to sooty mould when young/stressed. Shrubby form but good past 3 years of age. Slow growing too.

Maybe advanced stock in spots with room to move?
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Hey what about Rhodospaera rhodanthema, Deep Yellow Wood , it looks as if it may be a possibility for a good street tree. Good size, clean trunk, tough, columnar.

8-12m

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Don't quote me, as I'm not much of a horticulturist but I believe the seeds are like ball-bearings. Too much a risk for public areas, other than parks where the seeds can't roll on hard surfaces.

I'll confirm that.

Edit: Just to iterate, I think it's a great tree. We have a very dry bank where a lot of plants die and the Rhodospaera grows so well. And fast. Faster than an established Harpullia pendula next to it. Good form too.


And we have access to Acmena hempilampra, we will throw it in a park somewhere and see how it goes.
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A couple of shots from around the traps.

The first 3 are from the hillii/pruinosum planting I mentioned earlier.

Last one is a Silky planting at 1 week old.







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Treestyle,

Please find attached an article I wrote for the ‘The Arbor Age’. I think it was published in Dec 2005. The original article had photo's... It might have a few suggestions worth considering.

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Nice article, Bernie.
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Hey what about Rhodospaera rhodanthema, Deep Yellow Wood
There are some street plantings in Nerang of this species. They are doing very well, and so far there have been no problems that I am aware of regarding the ball shaped seeds. I'll get some photos next time i'm in the area. In the same street there are also a couple of plantings of Gmelina leichhardtii (White Beech) which look good.
I think the main problem limiting the use of these sorts of trees is nursery availability. Councils will almost always require street tree plantings to be 45L-100L bag size at planting, which usually eliminates all but the most common species from use.
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Depends on the council, I would suppose.

As you can see from the photos I posted earlier, they are 200mm, all of them. 1 metre height.
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They look good Treemo, I wish more Councils would accept smaller stock
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Not a street tree, but a photo nonetheless and this seems to be where I'm posting them. Plus, she was going mental at this point having so many flowers at her disposal. I'll get back into the street tree pics later.

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There are some street plantings in Nerang of this species. They are doing very well, and so far there have been no problems that I am aware of regarding the ball shaped seeds. I'll get some photos next time i'm in the area. In the same street there are also a couple of plantings of Gmelina leichhardtii (White Beech) which look good.
I think the main problem limiting the use of these sorts of trees is nursery availability. Councils will almost always require street tree plantings to be 45L-100L bag size at planting, which usually eliminates all but the most common species from use.
Funnily enough, just planted a fenceline with a couple of Gmelina and Lepiderema interspersed through some 25 Auranticarpa rhombifolia (we ran out of Auranticarpas).

And on Thursday I planted 29 Rhodospaera rhodanthema against another fenceline.

I'll get some pics as they grow.
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