Use live tree as water feature ???

mdvaden · 18th November 2007, 05:08 PM

This is not something I'm planning to do, but the thought came to mind "can a living tree be used as a water feature"

The idea stems from the Walnut tree I posted photos of today in the "Whadya get up today" thread in reply #609 & #611

http://www.treeworld.info/9/so-whady...html#post13146

http://www.treeworld.info/9/so-whady...html#post13234

The rain was pouring and trickling down leaders into an old cavity between the convergence of several leaders. The result was water trickling out another old wound on the south side of the tree.

So... "what if"

What if a small pond or basin could be placed beneath the wound discharging water, to catch that water, and pump the water through a tube concealed behind the trunk, up into the upper cavity?

If the tree compartmentalized, and could prevent water from escaping elsewhere, do you suppose the water feature would have any effect on the tree?

Is is possible that it could help the tree by cutting-off air to the wound due to the puddle of water? (It does happen anyway, about 5 months of autumn and winter due to rain).

Any detrimental results? Here's the discharge wound ... see the other replies to see the image above the convergence of leaders ...

Has this ever been done before? I have not seen any such example with a big living tree. Stumps yes - live trees no.

Ekka · 18th November 2007, 08:18 PM

Bloody great idea ... I'd go for it.

This is how I think .... rain does it anyway, and if that tree were in England it would prolly suffer about the same as you installing a water feature.

newguy18 · 18th November 2007, 08:31 PM

sounds like a good idea but just in case f a failure is there anything the tree could smash?

a_lopa · 18th November 2007, 10:17 PM

Top idea Mario!

TrevMcRev · 19th November 2007, 01:28 AM

Go for it. Why the bloody hell not.

TreeCo · 19th November 2007, 06:42 AM

Rotten idea!

Get the water feature designer away from the tree!

(This will lead to what nature doesn't provide.....you can do with a drill!)

newguy18 · 19th November 2007, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeCo

Rotten idea!

Get the water feature designer away from the tree!

(This will lead to what nature doesn't provide.....you can do with a drill!)

can you say that in german?

Ekka · 19th November 2007, 12:47 PM

What he's saying is people will drill out their own trees for the same effect.

JayD · 19th November 2007, 01:41 PM

Sprecken Deutch?

newguy18 · 19th November 2007, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

What he's saying is people will drill out their own trees for the same effect.

i know what he meant Ekka i'm just ribbing him.i call him a nazi over at the other site too.

Ekka · 20th November 2007, 01:49 AM

Well, this aint the other site so you behave!

newguy18 · 20th November 2007, 07:16 AM

alright i'm cool sorry chief.

Therrin · 23rd November 2007, 11:44 PM

I have to say I actually agree with TreeCo.

Hear me out...

He's right, I mean, what if someone came along and did THIS to a tree....
OTHER people might come and start doing it too!!

All image rights belong to Bear Necessities sculptures, llc

mdvaden · 24th November 2007, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

I have to say I actually agree with TreeCo.

Hear me out...

He's right, I mean, what if someone came along and did THIS to a tree....
OTHER people might come and start doing it too!!

All image rights belong to Bear Necessities sculptures, llc

Apparently if you visualize a whole different concept.

This thread specifically deals with a tree that already HAS the holes, and that nature HAS already provided...

That still leaves the question, for this particular tree, would circulating water through it the other 6 months of the year be detrimental or not?

I'm not certain about the relevancy of "lead" that TreeCo mentioned. For example, if a grove of birch or alder in the Columbia River Gorge were snapped-off due to ice, and an arborist re-structured the naturally topped trees, would that "LEAD" to people topping trees? And should the arborist refrain from using what's left of the trees? Whether one idea is of neccessity, and the other of innovation, I think the "lead" potential is debateable.

18th November 2007, 08:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? Bloody great idea ... I'd go for it. This is how I think .... rain does it anyway, and if that tree were in England it would prolly suffer about the same as you installing a water feature. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

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newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,646	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? sounds like a good idea but just in case f a failure is there anything the tree could smash? __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? Top idea Mario! __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

19th November 2007, 01:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 734	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? Go for it. Why the bloody hell not. __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

19th November 2007, 06:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
TreeCo Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 259	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? Rotten idea! Get the water feature designer away from the tree! (This will lead to what nature doesn't provide.....you can do with a drill!)

19th November 2007, 12:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? What he's saying is people will drill out their own trees for the same effect. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

19th November 2007, 01:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
JayD Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 926	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? Sprecken Deutch? __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

20th November 2007, 01:49 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? Well, this aint the other site so you behave! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

20th November 2007, 07:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,646	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? alright i'm cool sorry chief. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

23rd November 2007, 11:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,270	Re: Use live tree as water feature ??? I have to say I actually agree with TreeCo. Hear me out... He's right, I mean, what if someone came along and did THIS to a tree.... OTHER people might come and start doing it too!! All image rights belong to Bear Necessities sculptures, llc __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

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