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Old 28th November 2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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Hi everyone, I'm new here and I was hoping someone could help me out...

I'm doing a project for school and I need an ID on these trees - pictures taken in central Maryland

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http://i44.????????????/xgcg2p.jpg

I'm thinking a douglas fir for the second one, and I guess the first one is some kind of holly? I know the pictures aren't great, I have a couple more, I can post them if they'll help

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Old 28th November 2011, 11:52 AM   #2
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Gah, sorry, link doesn't work for some reason, let me try again
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Old 28th November 2011, 11:57 AM   #3
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Also, sorry... just realized I posted this in the wrong section :\ not off to a great start here lol
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Old 28th November 2011, 08:27 PM   #4
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The first one looks like Cotoneaster, the second is a Spruce, Picea sp.
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Old 29th November 2011, 07:46 AM   #5
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The first one looks a bit like Buffaloberry - Shepherdia canadensis, but I could be way off.

There are some stellar North American tree experts on here, they'll get it!
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Old 29th November 2011, 10:47 AM   #6
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The first looks like one of the shrubby honeysuckles, possibly Lonicera canadensis, the second is definitely a spruce, probably Picea pungens.
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Old 30th November 2011, 05:54 AM   #7
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The first step in identifying a plant is recognizing all the key features that best differentiate it from everything else. In this case the one with red fruit has opposite leaves thus eliminating holly and cotoneaster, but not shrubby honeysuckles (where the ones I usually see are invasive exotic weeds), and buffaloberries (or a similar Elaeagnus such as autumn olive, E. umbellata Thunb., which is another invasive exotic weed). The leaves seem to lack the silvery scales of the later (two) so a shrubby honeysuckle is more likely.
Once this narrows it down as far as possible the range and/or habitat can help narrow the possibilities even further if not confirm an identification. This works to virtually eliminate Douglas fir found out west, and buffaloberry where the nearest ones are around the Great Lakes, but not so much for things that are often planted and/or escaped such as invasive exotic weeds.
With the available information I agree with the identifications given by Steve, but can't totally eliminate some exotic shrubby honeysuckles, or red, white, and Norway spruce that may be found in/near your area. Photos showing size and shape of cones would confirm the spruce, but photos of flowers would probably be needed for the shrubby honeysuckle.
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Old 1st December 2011, 01:52 AM   #8
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I agree with Steve about the Honeysuckle; the spruce might be Colorado or Norway - a pic of the cones would help, and whether the ends of the needles are prickly (Colorado) or blunt (Norway). Both Black and Red Spruce have much shorter needles.

Btw Eden Keeper, while normal habitat would normally eliminate Douglas Fir, many species are planted well outside their natural range. While not common, there are several Douglas Fir in the Toronto, ONtario area -- they just don't grow as large as out west (thankfully).
Recently, I came across a Black Walnut (that is not supposed to grow north of Zone 5) growing in Zone 3, and it seems to be thriving. Apparently none of the trees told it couldn't grow there, and it still is......
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Yes, looking up this Shrubby Honeysuckle - definitely looks the ticket. Bloody garden escapee!
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Old 6th December 2011, 03:59 AM   #10
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Thanks everyone!!!
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