Tree that drop minimal leaves/twigs

a_lopa · 10th July 2007, 11:23 PM

I have a customer thats going to remove some gums along his drive as its a 100m long concreted drive thats just starting to lift in places,Hes also sick of the mess the trees leave.

Before anyone goes on a rant to retain the trees STOP because this has been on-going for 5-6 years and he has lots of $$$ so will do as he pleases.

Im thinking lily pilys i cant remember the variety it starts with Lepos????

Any ideas apreciated!

Ekka · 10th July 2007, 11:36 PM

Screw the lillypilly's ... they get a red berry that stains! And that's all of them. Also invasive roots.

I get asked the very same question over and over for around pools.

What sort of tree doesn't drop leaves, flowers or fruit/berries and is great around pools.

I suggest the mediterranean all colour shade sail. Comes in a variety of colours and shade % strengths, has 10 year guarantee and is mature sized on planting ... also perfect for droughts as requires no watering and will never lift your pavers or concrete.

A great addition is large pots, wrought iron or clay with drought tolerant species of interest such as cycads or grass trees (previously known as Black Boys and botanically known as xanthorrhoea).

In the bustling lifestyles we live today, do away with leaves, cleaning filters, the sweeping and heaven forbid hosing if you have water and enjoy your new low maintenance landscape.

treestyle · 11th July 2007, 12:21 AM

......catus? what about a fence with a vine growing on it, Star jasmine or that wierd ficus vine? .....maybe a hedge would work.....high maintenance though.

you thinking Syzygium leuhmahnnii? Or type or Leptospermum?

bambo? clumping.

hopefully some ideas outside the box.

Tim Craig · 11th July 2007, 12:29 AM

A lopa,

What about Photinia robusta? a great looking shrub, which can be formed into a hedge......

http://www.gardenexpress.com.au/medi...Rub_(medal.jpg

It grows well here in Scotland and I have seen it doing well in the East USA,

maybe it will do well in Oz?

Has to trimmed every year if kept as a hedge.

Sean Freeman · 11th July 2007, 12:54 AM

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TrevMcRev · 11th July 2007, 08:25 PM

If hes got enough $$$ maybe giant fake plastic trees???????

All trees shed parts, to some people that is considered mess. I call it nature.
Evergreens tend to drop a bit of mess continuously.
Deciduous tend to hold on to most leaves better till autumn when they dump it all.

For most people, evergreens when over a hardscape are the biggest annoyance so unless you get ones small enough and plant them far enough away the problem will come back.

Could he cope with a blanket of leaves in autumn??

If so there are some decid species that can be quiet effective as an avenue lining his driveway.

The photinias arent a bad idea, most leaf litter falls within the dripline of the tree, down through the interior of the canopy. And dont get real big.

Lilly Pillys would be a big mistake. Maybe Waterhousia floribuda would suit ok though???

a_lopa · 11th July 2007, 10:37 PM

Im 99% certain we are going for these.. http://www.winterhill.com.au/default...322/group/9636

$300 a tree planted

a_lopa · 11th July 2007, 10:42 PM

Maybe these as well http://www.downesnursery.com.au/tristania_luscious.html

He just sold one block of land for 1.2mill so he's not fussed on price just wants"job done"

Quintrex · 11th July 2007, 11:29 PM

How about Jacarandas? That way you get flowers, leaves AND invasive roots.
Work for the future!

Ekka · 11th July 2007, 11:43 PM

Lopa, you go with those Waterhousia's and in 10 years time that customer will come looking for you with a gun!

And I'll say, told you so. They drop red berries and shit loads of leaves ... all the time and especially in drought. You will be sorry.

Tristania, cant say, not many here, I dont think I've ever worked with one.

treestyle · 12th July 2007, 02:36 AM

A_lopa, i don't know where in oz you are. here in brisbane Waterhousia's are naturaly occuring along creeks, Hence the name. in their natural habitat they develope into LARGE trees, getting up around 20m. with big round trunks, their roots are capable of holding them to the river bank through out heavy flooding, could only imagine what they might do to a driveway.

I'm sure though that you have researched them exstensivley, perhaps if you are in one of the southern states they may be less vigorous.

I've seen them used up here as street trees, away from the water they are slow growing and susceptible to insect attack, resulting in sooty mould.

However they are a beautiful tree and it's good to see you opting for the native alternative!

treestyle · 12th July 2007, 02:42 AM

only a couply days ago i had to prune a street full of tristaniopsis. they were only juvenile trees at 5m being the tallest. I remember that there was not much leaf litter on the road or in the gutters. they pruned up nice. i've not seen a mature one but the ones i worked on were within a foot of the kerb, some were up around 300dbh and weren't showing signs of busting any concrete.

i'd be more inclind to go with the tristaniopsis !

Ekka · 12th July 2007, 02:47 AM

He's in Drouin, Gippsland Victoria, 1100mm rainfall PA and fertile soils. Mediterainian style climate, cold wet winters and hot dry summers, low humidity.

treestyle · 12th July 2007, 03:07 AM

melaleuca "claret tops" or melaleuca bracteata "revolution gold" ?

a_lopa · 12th July 2007, 11:34 PM

This guy deserves bad trees LOL!!!!

Itll be a long way down the track and he is a freind as well as a client,if its a cock-up ill blame the nursery!!!

Thanks for the replys guys..

a_lopa · 3rd August 2007, 12:56 AM

Mission complete,im very happy with the job overall and the stock chosen (tristaniopsis laurina) water gum, very nice..

Sean Freeman · 3rd August 2007, 01:35 AM

Nice job mate, pretty close so I'm quessing the client really wants an avenue effect eh? Sadly they don't grow up here.

10th July 2007, 11:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Tree that drop minimal leaves/twigs I have a customer thats going to remove some gums along his drive as its a 100m long concreted drive thats just starting to lift in places,Hes also sick of the mess the trees leave. Before anyone goes on a rant to retain the trees STOP because this has been on-going for 5-6 years and he has lots of $$$ so will do as he pleases. Im thinking lily pilys i cant remember the variety it starts with Lepos???? Any ideas apreciated! __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

10th July 2007, 11:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	Screw the lillypilly's ... they get a red berry that stains! And that's all of them. Also invasive roots. I get asked the very same question over and over for around pools. What sort of tree doesn't drop leaves, flowers or fruit/berries and is great around pools. I suggest the mediterranean all colour shade sail. Comes in a variety of colours and shade % strengths, has 10 year guarantee and is mature sized on planting ... also perfect for droughts as requires no watering and will never lift your pavers or concrete. A great addition is large pots, wrought iron or clay with drought tolerant species of interest such as cycads or grass trees (previously known as Black Boys and botanically known as xanthorrhoea). In the bustling lifestyles we live today, do away with leaves, cleaning filters, the sweeping and heaven forbid hosing if you have water and enjoy your new low maintenance landscape. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

11th July 2007, 12:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,667	See here Attention landscapers: Australian Pine Tree __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

11th July 2007, 08:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 734	If hes got enough $$$ maybe giant fake plastic trees??????? All trees shed parts, to some people that is considered mess. I call it nature. Evergreens tend to drop a bit of mess continuously. Deciduous tend to hold on to most leaves better till autumn when they dump it all. For most people, evergreens when over a hardscape are the biggest annoyance so unless you get ones small enough and plant them far enough away the problem will come back. Could he cope with a blanket of leaves in autumn?? If so there are some decid species that can be quiet effective as an avenue lining his driveway. The photinias arent a bad idea, most leaf litter falls within the dripline of the tree, down through the interior of the canopy. And dont get real big. Lilly Pillys would be a big mistake. Maybe Waterhousia floribuda would suit ok though??? __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

11th July 2007, 10:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Im 99% certain we are going for these.. http://www.winterhill.com.au/default...322/group/9636 $300 a tree planted __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

11th July 2007, 12:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 128	......catus? what about a fence with a vine growing on it, Star jasmine or that wierd ficus vine? .....maybe a hedge would work.....high maintenance though. you thinking Syzygium leuhmahnnii? Or type or Leptospermum? bambo? clumping. hopefully some ideas outside the box.

11th July 2007, 12:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tim Craig Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 94	A lopa, What about Photinia robusta? a great looking shrub, which can be formed into a hedge...... http://www.gardenexpress.com.au/medi...Rub_(medal.jpg It grows well here in Scotland and I have seen it doing well in the East USA, maybe it will do well in Oz? Has to trimmed every year if kept as a hedge.

11th July 2007, 10:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	Maybe these as well http://www.downesnursery.com.au/tristania_luscious.html He just sold one block of land for 1.2mill so he's not fussed on price just wants"job done" __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

11th July 2007, 11:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 457	How about Jacarandas? That way you get flowers, leaves AND invasive roots. Work for the future!

11th July 2007, 11:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	Lopa, you go with those Waterhousia's and in 10 years time that customer will come looking for you with a gun! And I'll say, told you so. They drop red berries and shit loads of leaves ... all the time and especially in drought. You will be sorry. Tristania, cant say, not many here, I dont think I've ever worked with one. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

12th July 2007, 02:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 128	A_lopa, i don't know where in oz you are. here in brisbane Waterhousia's are naturaly occuring along creeks, Hence the name. in their natural habitat they develope into LARGE trees, getting up around 20m. with big round trunks, their roots are capable of holding them to the river bank through out heavy flooding, could only imagine what they might do to a driveway. I'm sure though that you have researched them exstensivley, perhaps if you are in one of the southern states they may be less vigorous. I've seen them used up here as street trees, away from the water they are slow growing and susceptible to insect attack, resulting in sooty mould. However they are a beautiful tree and it's good to see you opting for the native alternative!

12th July 2007, 02:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 128	only a couply days ago i had to prune a street full of tristaniopsis. they were only juvenile trees at 5m being the tallest. I remember that there was not much leaf litter on the road or in the gutters. they pruned up nice. i've not seen a mature one but the ones i worked on were within a foot of the kerb, some were up around 300dbh and weren't showing signs of busting any concrete. i'd be more inclind to go with the tristaniopsis !

12th July 2007, 02:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,830	He's in Drouin, Gippsland Victoria, 1100mm rainfall PA and fertile soils. Mediterainian style climate, cold wet winters and hot dry summers, low humidity. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

12th July 2007, 03:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
treestyle Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Brisbane Posts: 128	melaleuca "claret tops" or melaleuca bracteata "revolution gold" ?

12th July 2007, 11:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 875	This guy deserves bad trees LOL!!!! Itll be a long way down the track and he is a freind as well as a client,if its a cock-up ill blame the nursery!!! Thanks for the replys guys.. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals Last edited by a_lopa : 12th July 2007 at 11:35 PM. Reason: forgot the thanks!

3rd August 2007, 01:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,667	Nice job mate, pretty close so I'm quessing the client really wants an avenue effect eh? Sadly they don't grow up here. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran