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Old 1st February 2008, 08:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Totaly stumped by this one, can anyone help ID This Tree?

Hi guy's (and Gals),
visited a property today after some high winds and was asked to quote to extract this tree.
Of all the ID books that I have, I cannot do so. I have never come across it before. Here are some pictures.






Someone is gonna know what this is, I have not got a clue.
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Old 1st February 2008, 08:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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PCA Alien Plant Working Group - Russian-Olive (Elaeagnus angustifolia)

Could it be Russian Olive, or maybe Autum Olive?
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Old 1st February 2008, 09:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi TreeCo,
I thought it was of the Olive family, but, the flowers are white in spring/summer.
The leaves are alternate-opposing. (Third picture).

Really Don't know!
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Old 1st February 2008, 10:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Treesurfer, it looks like it might be a Shining willow (Salix lucida)
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Old 1st February 2008, 05:56 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I've only seen one before but its not Quercus virginana is it?

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Old 1st February 2008, 06:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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The bark is similar to Russian Olive, however RO has fuzzy leaves, while the pictures show very shiney leaves.

I was looking at the lateral in picture 4, and shows similarities to advantageous growth of willow.

If you were able to prune a piece of larger wood, that would really help solve the mystery.

My book resources are limited to trees in Canada, On the Isle of Man, it might be anything. Good luck, I'll keep an eye on here and when you find out, I will be wiser too.
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Old 1st February 2008, 09:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Doh.....WRONG leaf arrangement for Q.virginiana. Strike it off.
The unknown spec. has 2-ranked opposite leaves.

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Old 2nd February 2008, 01:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Looks like a European violet willow, Salix daphnoides
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Old 2nd February 2008, 02:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: Totaly stumped by this one, can anyone help ID This Tree?

The leaves of the salix are alternate ... however in the pics Andy's are opposite and distinctly concolored.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 03:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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After a long read through some of my mates wifes books, she came across this, Olearia nummulariifolia. There are no good images that I can find on the web.

Keep posting your answers though, I/we may be wrong still.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 04:44 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Mmm...... Am I allowed another go at this?....I think it might be....Metrosideros albiflora.
Specimens of Metrosideros albiflora were collected (in New Zealand) during Captain James Cook's first voyage circa 1770 in the Pacific on the HMB Endeavour ... Type specimens were included in botanist (Joseph) Banks' Forilegium ...and taken back to England...presumably to Kew Gardens.
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Attached here Metrosideros excelsa from down the road from me...leaf arrangement is identical....opposite and 2-ranked....with tomentose pale reverse.
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Now....I wonder if the flowers are consistent with this tentative ident.

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Old 2nd February 2008, 09:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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definately metrosideros with the white furry underside and green leaves and bud configiration, bark and timber(from the cut branch) are red and peeling bark, not usual form tho... could be climate related... not sure if its excelsa (common pohutukawa )tho..... adding to this... i believe it could be Metrosideros albiflora agreeing with Azrael or Metrosideros bartlettii, which also has white flowers but hard to say, hope this helps...

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Old 2nd February 2008, 09:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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DOH....I DO wish I could delete posts...It turns out the M.albiflora is a liane (woody vine).
Azrael <to self>...3 strikes and you'll be OUT... too cocky from the Privet ID .
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Old 3rd February 2008, 12:11 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Have done a bit of tree id resource work with my addictive tree book collection lol, most likely Metrosideros bartlettii as is the only white flowering rata with a tree'd form.... hope this helps, just another informing fact, some M.excelsa can have strains of yellow flowers, a genetic floor but is very cool seeing them side by side
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Old 3rd February 2008, 01:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I got it!

It's a....Lostcabling Opportunitioides!

A little metal would've gone a long way on that one. Hope the insurance company takes good care of you.
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Old 3rd February 2008, 01:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Hahahaha!

It's almost like some overgrown rosemary.
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