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Old 23rd September 2008, 04:13 AM   #1
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Hi,

During a bad storm, the top (crown) branch of my Blue Spruce broke off. Will this kill the tree or will another branch of the Blue Spruce take over as the crown?

Some people have told me that this will kill the Blue Spruce and others have told me that another branch will take over and become the new crown. Which is true and can I do anything to help the tree?

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Old 23rd September 2008, 06:04 AM   #2
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I have an 11-foot blue spruce and I can see where the crown was broken off earlier and now another branch has taken over as the crown. See post on crooked blue spruce. I will post some pics tonight.

If I prune off the now offending smaller limb it will be almost undetectable that the crown was ever broken.

How big is your tree add how much was broken off?
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Old 23rd September 2008, 06:07 AM   #3
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Old 23rd September 2008, 06:16 AM   #4
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Actually, I just went outslde and measured the tree...The tree is actually about 18 feet tall.

I will take a pic and post it.
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Old 23rd September 2008, 07:48 AM   #5
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OK, here's the tree. I had to take the pic with my phone.... hope you can view it okay....
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Have some-one go up and reduce properly to a lateral branch and remove those sprouts.
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i agree with ekka,get an arborist to reduce it properly.
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Old 23rd September 2008, 02:39 PM   #8
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Have some-one go up and reduce properly to a lateral branch and remove those sprouts.
I agree to clean cut the wound but why cut off sprouts now? They are there for good purposes; food and shade among them. Thin them to one leader plus laterals Over Time.

Right now a crown cleaning of dead and dying wood b good.
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,if an arborist is up there clean cutting the wound,might as well reduce to a proper lateral and thin off non target laterals.
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Old 23rd September 2008, 03:41 PM   #10
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You can make this tree beautiful and safe with a pole pruner, no need to climb.

No reason to thin.

Takes about 10 min.
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i fail to see any benifit to the tree in your diagram.
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Leverage reduction.
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Maybe,i still think regular reducing to a suitable lead and thinning the others is the way to go.
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Maybe,i still think regular reducing to a suitable lead and thinning the others is the way to go.
Why thin?
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to reduce wind load and to make sureit is pruned to the best lateral.
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Thinning can also introduce decay into stem. Makes stem more thin, more likely to break.
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yes it can introduce decay if done improperly,but now is the best time to do it while the tree is young and vigorous,wait to long and it won't heal as fast.this is basic stuff here.
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That tree is thin/damaged enough, it may have broken because of pruning...
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Old 23rd September 2008, 04:52 PM   #19
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No. That part of the tree hasn't been pruned b4. It broke during a really bad storm.
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No. That part of the tree hasn't been pruned b4. It broke during a really bad storm.
Cool, Seen alot of trees/branches fail due to poor taper from pruning/thinning.
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See,thats why it needs thinned.
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I agree to clean cut the wound but why cut off sprouts now? .
One needs to retrain a new leader and subordinate laterals to restore apical dominance. Sooner is better because leaders on blue spruce are capable of growing 12" or more per year.
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My next door neighbour has a larch that he planted a few years ago it was good nusery stock but after three months he drove over it; it survived he staked it; but now it's top grows at a severe angle, im thinking this may have befallen a similar fate at a young ageas the kink is high in the tree (even stepping on them can cause damage) or that support line is too tight. just a thought.
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why cut off sprouts now?
So it's easier to paint of course, that's what you do isn't it?

Oh, maybe put a weather cap on it too, sorry, forgot about that one.


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Errr, the above answers are purely for entertainment value and my attempt at satire/humour.

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Painting of wounds, weather caps etc are all old school snake oil treatments. I even had a person tell me to get the silicon gun out once and silicon the wounds up.
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My next door neighbour has a larch that he planted a few years ago it was good nusery stock but after three months he drove over it; it survived he staked it; but now it's top grows at a severe angle, im thinking this may have befallen a similar fate at a young ageas the kink is high in the tree (even stepping on them can cause damage) or that support line is too tight. just a thought.
this was meant for for another thread sorry don't know how it got here.
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Old 25th September 2008, 02:38 AM   #26
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Thanks! I was confused
I didn't understand what you were talking about...
I was thinking "Did I say something about there being a kink in the tree"..... hmmmm.... Thank you for pointing this out NOW I understand that this had nothing to do with me!
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Ekka's plan on the tree is the way to go,you need to find a certified arborist in your area,you can find one here,
International Society of Arboriculturedon't let any use wound paint on the tree.
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... my attempt at satire/humour...
Better not quit your day job; as a comedian you are more of a commodian.

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