Strange growth on tree.

(WLL) · 2nd March 2009, 01:12 PM

looks like a burl from here, did you take it?

Therrin · 2nd March 2009, 03:46 PM

I'd have to guess that a large majority of the other 21 folks who voted "burl" probably did as I did, and read through the post first trying to decide what the general consensus was.

Based on my "research", I've decided that what we have there, folks, is a Burl.

Tree Doc · 2nd March 2009, 04:04 PM

I agree with the burl diagnosis. I save them for a friend that machines them into bowls. Yes, I log the mature growth tree first!

newguy18 · 2nd March 2009, 04:07 PM

Why not?Kill all the trees,breathing is optional anyway!

Eric Frei · 2nd March 2009, 04:52 PM

Lots of logging still going on, lots of it legal too.

This whole climate change thing is being used as big stick by many.... incorrectly, it's a lot of BS in many places.

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bstewert · 3rd March 2009, 04:32 PM

On the largest spruce in Oregon, two are better than one.

treevet · 3rd March 2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bstewert

On the largest spruce in Oregon, two are better than one.

Be interesting to have xray vision and watch how all the curling aspects of their transport system move water, nutrients and photosynthate and compartmentalize.

newguy18 · 4th March 2009, 12:55 AM

sure would Dave,i' wish i had one on a tree in my yard,i'd disect it to see how it compartmentalized.

clementine · 4th March 2009, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (WLL)

looks like a burl from here, did you take it?

No, never been there, got it off a search for a Burl.

newguy18 · 4th March 2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Lots of logging still going on, lots of it legal too.

This whole climate change thing is being used as big stick by many.... incorrectly, it's a lot of BS in many places.

Friends of Science

Watch the video's and read plenty from all sources.

i know,i was screwing with him,around here lots of people clear off thier land and plant slash pine[Pinus elliottii]on thier land,let them grow for about 25 years then have a timber company log them off,then replant.Just like a farmer plants crops and harvests them.

Q.Q. · 4th March 2009, 10:25 PM

OK so what is this called, just wondering.
It's our wedding tree from the muster,and I thought some pic's would be good.

Eric Frei · 5th March 2009, 12:02 AM

That's a canker.

Looks like some-one might have flush cut off a burl years ago.

LeifR · 5th March 2009, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Looks like some-one might have flush cut off a burl years ago.

If it had been i a colder area than QLD, it might have been a frost wound too.
Leif.

(WLL) · 5th March 2009, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

That's a canker.

Looks like some-one might have flush cut off a burl years ago.

i agree 100%, looks like the burl or maybe even a gall was cut off. Now its just a bloody canker spewing out bacteria.

(WLL) · 5th March 2009, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clementine

A giant burl near Solduc Falls in Olympic National Park:

looks like there is a chance of of the above pic being a gall caused by insects, its hard to tell with that one.

dirtguy · 8th March 2009, 10:03 AM

Dudes, don't cut that thing open! I houses a million tiny space travellers from the planet Xorgo.

Q.Q. · 13th March 2009, 12:00 AM

Cool thanks for the info Ekka.

Therrin · 14th March 2009, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtguy

Dudes, don't cut that thing open! I houses a million tiny space travellers from the planet Xorgo.

*Therrin snatches the pipe from dirtguy and gives him the evil eye*

O.o

Jeff Darby · 22nd March 2009, 05:29 PM

Hi Folks,
I was on a tour of the Royal Botanical Gardens this morning past and while sitting in the cafe having a break I spotted this growth on this Syzygium francisii Giant Water Gum of the MYRTACEAE family and thought it would fit just nice to this thread, what type of growth is this????

Sorry about the quality of the photos, it was the best angle I could get with the sun bearing down.

Q.Q. · 22nd March 2009, 08:11 PM

Is it a burl?

Or a Ringbark Burl

(WLL) · 23rd March 2009, 03:35 AM

looks like a gull, ring worm prolly

Buckstree · 29th March 2009, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minna

While walking in Cedar Falls State Park in Kentucky, US, we saw an oak tree with a growth about 2 feet in diameter. Does anyone know what that could be?

a Burl wood turners would pay good money for that , i cut down a wild cherry that had one and a wood turner walked up and gave me 20 bucks for one the size of a volleyball, god only knows what yours is worth..

arborjockey · 18th November 2009, 10:38 AM

Gall dang Canker looks like an above ground Burly Gall. Ran into that in kentucky gave 2 different ones to 4 different ladies and and came out clean myself. What are the odds

gives this pic a new meaning

boreality · 6th December 2009, 02:11 PM

This one claims to be the worlds biggest burl. From Port Mcneill, Vancover Island, BC Canada. Blew me away when I saw it.

Eric Frei · 6th December 2009, 03:21 PM

yeah, that's a ripper and they called it a burl not gall right?

Garry Brockley · 6th December 2009, 08:41 PM

looks like a flamin boulder not a burl thats amazing what species of tree was it?

boreality · 10th December 2009, 04:26 AM

I saw the burl on a road trip, before it had a roof over it, I didn't stop, because it was big enough at speed to appreciate. The photo was pulled off Port Mcneill's tourism website. So I was going to reply it was either a Western Red Cedar or a Douglas Fir, but I thought I better check my facts. It turns out it is a Sitka Spruce picea sitchensis. This is one of those species which has been logged into oblivion. It was a great wood prefered for ship's masts and oars, now if you want some you have to scavenge an old log boom or recycle. Nice eh. And they are called burls on the island. I think burl is a woodworker's term and gall a biologist's term. Like the diference between a tree and a board.

boreality · 10th December 2009, 04:46 AM

How about explaining the cause? The most reasonable explanation I've heard is that an insect begins feeding on the sap, and the tree responds by sending more sap to the area. Then after the insect leaves the tree keeps on sending extra hormones and nutrients to the area.

Garry Brockley · 10th December 2009, 06:40 AM

There are different causes of burls some are caused by a bacterial infection the tree recognises a threat/weakness in the area and keeps putting cambium over the area and so it grows, others are caused by insects again its cambium build up not so much sap.

shaun05 · 20th December 2009, 11:47 AM

Seems that a gall is responsive to insect or fungal stimulus and is limited in size although it may be encapsulated over time.

A burl on the other hand is perennial and gets larger over time.

View Poll Results: The large round growth at the base of the tree is a ....
Gall	20	25.64%
Burl	49	62.82%
Canker	6	7.69%
Conk	3	3.85%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

2nd March 2009, 01:12 PM	#31
(WLL) Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 240	Re: Strange growth on tree. looks like a burl from here, did you take it?

2nd March 2009, 03:46 PM	#32
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: Strange growth on tree. I'd have to guess that a large majority of the other 21 folks who voted "burl" probably did as I did, and read through the post first trying to decide what the general consensus was. Based on my "research", I've decided that what we have there, folks, is a Burl.

2nd March 2009, 04:04 PM	#33
Tree Doc I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Moosic, PA 18641 Posts: 1	Re: Strange growth on tree. I agree with the burl diagnosis. I save them for a friend that machines them into bowls. Yes, I log the mature growth tree first!

2nd March 2009, 04:07 PM	#34
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Strange growth on tree. Why not?Kill all the trees,breathing is optional anyway! __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

2nd March 2009, 04:52 PM	#35
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Strange growth on tree. Lots of logging still going on, lots of it legal too. This whole climate change thing is being used as big stick by many.... incorrectly, it's a lot of BS in many places. Friends of Science Watch the video's and read plenty from all sources. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd March 2009, 04:32 PM	#36
bstewert Sappling Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 36	Re: Strange growth on tree. On the largest spruce in Oregon, two are better than one. Attached Thumbnails

4th March 2009, 12:55 AM	#38
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Strange growth on tree. sure would Dave,i' wish i had one on a tree in my yard,i'd disect it to see how it compartmentalized. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

4th March 2009, 10:25 PM	#41
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Strange growth on tree. OK so what is this called, just wondering. It's our wedding tree from the muster,and I thought some pic's would be good. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT Last edited by Therrin; 11th April 2009 at 09:11 PM. Reason: Picture Embed

5th March 2009, 12:02 AM	#42
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Strange growth on tree. That's a canker. Looks like some-one might have flush cut off a burl years ago. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th March 2009, 10:03 AM	#46
dirtguy Sappling Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 16	Re: Strange growth on tree. Dudes, don't cut that thing open! I houses a million tiny space travellers from the planet Xorgo.

13th March 2009, 12:00 AM	#47
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Strange growth on tree. Cool thanks for the info Ekka. __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT

22nd March 2009, 05:29 PM	#49
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Re: Strange growth on tree. Hi Folks, I was on a tour of the Royal Botanical Gardens this morning past and while sitting in the cafe having a break I spotted this growth on this Syzygium francisii Giant Water Gum of the MYRTACEAE family and thought it would fit just nice to this thread, what type of growth is this???? Sorry about the quality of the photos, it was the best angle I could get with the sun bearing down. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011 Last edited by Therrin; 11th April 2009 at 09:12 PM. Reason: photo link spacing

22nd March 2009, 08:11 PM	#50
Q.Q. Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Western QLD. Australia Posts: 282	Re: Strange growth on tree. Is it a burl? Or a Ringbark Burl __________________ Q,Q's Tree & Garden Maintenance FAMILARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT

23rd March 2009, 03:35 AM	#51
(WLL) Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 240	Re: Strange growth on tree. looks like a gull, ring worm prolly __________________ Harder than theTH, and his pack of goons

18th November 2009, 10:38 AM	#53
arborjockey Mature tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: hawaii. ohio. oregon. california Posts: 260	Re: Strange growth on tree. Gall dang Canker looks like an above ground Burly Gall. Ran into that in kentucky gave 2 different ones to 4 different ladies and and came out clean myself. What are the odds gives this pic a new meaning

6th December 2009, 02:11 PM	#54
boreality Sappling Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 46	Re: Strange growth on tree. This one claims to be the worlds biggest burl. From Port Mcneill, Vancover Island, BC Canada. Blew me away when I saw it. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Eric Frei; 6th December 2009 at 03:20 PM. Reason: embedded pic

6th December 2009, 03:21 PM	#55
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Strange growth on tree. yeah, that's a ripper and they called it a burl not gall right? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

6th December 2009, 08:41 PM	#56
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Strange growth on tree. looks like a flamin boulder not a burl thats amazing what species of tree was it? __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

10th December 2009, 04:26 AM	#57
boreality Sappling Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 46	Re: Strange growth on tree. I saw the burl on a road trip, before it had a roof over it, I didn't stop, because it was big enough at speed to appreciate. The photo was pulled off Port Mcneill's tourism website. So I was going to reply it was either a Western Red Cedar or a Douglas Fir, but I thought I better check my facts. It turns out it is a Sitka Spruce picea sitchensis. This is one of those species which has been logged into oblivion. It was a great wood prefered for ship's masts and oars, now if you want some you have to scavenge an old log boom or recycle. Nice eh. And they are called burls on the island. I think burl is a woodworker's term and gall a biologist's term. Like the diference between a tree and a board. Last edited by boreality; 10th December 2009 at 04:38 AM. Reason: added more

10th December 2009, 04:46 AM	#58
boreality Sappling Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 46	Re: Strange growth on tree. How about explaining the cause? The most reasonable explanation I've heard is that an insect begins feeding on the sap, and the tree responds by sending more sap to the area. Then after the insect leaves the tree keeps on sending extra hormones and nutrients to the area.

10th December 2009, 06:40 AM	#59
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Strange growth on tree. There are different causes of burls some are caused by a bacterial infection the tree recognises a threat/weakness in the area and keeps putting cambium over the area and so it grows, others are caused by insects again its cambium build up not so much sap. __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

20th December 2009, 11:47 AM	#60
shaun05 Former Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Penrith (Glenmore Park) Posts: 24	Re: Strange growth on tree. Seems that a gall is responsive to insect or fungal stimulus and is limited in size although it may be encapsulated over time. A burl on the other hand is perennial and gets larger over time.

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